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    HITOMIG. R. R. Martin - Píseň ledu a ohně (knihy, seriál, TCG, RPG, deskovky...) SPOILERY POVOLENY!
    TROX23
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    JCD
    JCD --- ---
    Game of Thrones QuickDraw: The Life of Ned Stark
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZO5MRvLbPU
    CLAVEN
    CLAVEN --- ---
    U Georga mal zničiť už ADWD, to bol strašný crap.
    NELLAS
    NELLAS --- ---
    ARAON: Když si hodí do závěti podobnou klauzulku jako Terry Pratchett...
    Žádný další Pratchett. Rozepsaná díla zničil na přání autora parní válec - iDNES.cz
    https://kultura.zpravy.idnes.cz/...t-parni-valec-0ue-/literatura.aspx?c=A170830_130143_literatura_ts
    ARAON
    ARAON --- ---
    WITTGENSTEIN: Mrtvy prd vi. :)
    WITTGENSTEIN
    WITTGENSTEIN --- ---
    ARAON: Ovšem tenhle postup GRRM explicitně zakázal. Takže bude šestý, nikoli však sedmý díl, sestimsmiřte předem.
    ARAON
    ARAON --- ---
    CARB6N: Tak celkem urcite. Winds of Winter uz nejak behem dvou, tri let dopatla. A na Dream of Spring to s nim slehne, vydavatel posbira vsechno co mel do te doby napsano, najme nekoho aby to dotahl do vydatelne podoby a bude.
    Jen jestli to do te doby neslehne se mnou. Ale ja na to nespecham. Koneckoncu Game of Thrones jsem cetl nekdy v roce 97, 8. :-P
    CARB6N
    CARB6N --- ---
    ARAON: Ale je zde pořád celkem palčivá otázka, jestli si tu knihu někdy budeš moct přečíst, že jo? :)
    ARAON
    ARAON --- ---
    Já nevim, ale seriál mi přijde jako fajn fan-fikce. Knihu si ovšem přečtu, abych věděl jak to bylo "doopravdy".
    CHRMLE
    CHRMLE --- ---
    J4C0B1M: Hmm... Duna mela jeste vic a taky ji chudak nedokoncil... A jak to dopadlo, sedl synek a najednou se to dopsalo... Sice s drobnymi plot-halls, ale tak dopsalo se to...
    CLAVEN
    CLAVEN --- ---
    ZAREK: Však ho nikto neťahá k súdu. Akurát ma už tie jeho zázraky nezaujímajú a nedám mu ani korunu.
    ZAREK
    ZAREK --- ---
    CLAVEN: Definice přiměřeného úsilí byla však smluvně nedostatečně ošetřena, takže si GRRM muze v podstatě dělat co chce :p
    CLAVEN
    CLAVEN --- ---
    ZAREK: S implikáciou, že autor vyvinie primerané úsilie na dokončenie diela :p
    ZAREK
    ZAREK --- ---
    CLAVEN: Ale ty sis nekoupil hotove dílo, jen si zaplatil parciální faktury za již dokončené části :p
    CLAVEN
    CLAVEN --- ---
    Títo apologéti a autorské výhovorky...

    Keby radšej venoval toľko energie, koľko venuje na vymýšľanie ospravedlnení, písaniu.
    Mne je úprimne jedno, čo GRRM vidí ako svoje životné dielo, alebo čo mu zaberá čas. To je jeho vec a mňa do nej nič. Ale z hľadiska zákazníka ma zaujíma, či niekomu platím za dokončené dielo alebo jeho dve tretiny.
    WITTGENSTEIN
    WITTGENSTEIN --- ---
    (A dost, už jsem jako GRRM, prokrastinuju, zatímco lidi čekají na mého Gaimana a Fabera a Bankse.)
    WITTGENSTEIN
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    A tohle:

    My original intent was to end DANCE with the two big battles, yes… intercutting between the two of them, each told through several different points of view. And both battles were partially written. But NOT COMPLETE, which became the issue. Also, maybe even more to the point, not yet good enough in my estimation. Battles are bloody hard, and I wanted these to be great.

    The book had already been scheduled for publication, I had blown through several previous deadlines, and we simply ran out of time. Initially I decided to push one battle back to WINDS to focus on the other, but that did not work either, and neither of the sequences came together the way I wanted them to, so ultimately the choice came down to moving both of the battles to WINDS or cancelling the planned publication and pushing back DANCE. And given how far ahead publishers schedule their releases, the pushback would not have been a few days or a few weeks, but at least half a year, and maybe longer.

    Also, DANCE was already very long, and the battles would have made it substantially longer. That could also have affected the pricing.

    Did we make the right decision? I don’t know, even to this day. I understand your frustration, and some days I do feel the same way. But back then I had the fans howling after DANCE the same way they are howling after WINDS now, and my publishers really really did not want to push back again. And DANCE, even without the battles, was extremely well received — yes, there were dissenters, I know that, readers who did not like the book as well as the earlier volumes, but out in the wider world, DANCE had extremely strong sales, rode the bestseller lists for a long long time. It was a Hugo finalist, won the Locus Award for best fantasy of the year, and was named by TIME magazine as the book of the year. So even without the battles, it worked pretty well… but part of me still wonders if we made the right choice.

    These things are not easy. Those who think they are have obviously never written anything, or had to deal with the realities of publishing.
    WITTGENSTEIN
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    A ještě tohle:

    Alas, I don’t have the time, that’s the point.

    IF I had all the time in the world, I would finish THE WINDS OF WINTER and A DREAM OF SPRING, write another six or eight or ten Dunk & Egg novellas, complete the second volume of FIRE & BLOOD… then I might go back my unfinished historical BLACK AND WHITE AND RED ALL OVER, do some Wild Cards stories and maybe a Wild Cards novel, write some new Haviland Tuf stories, spec a few pilot scripts for my own GAME OF THRONES successor shows, do a sequel to FEVRE DREAM, return to the Thousand Worlds for a huge space opera… and then do something completely different, like a murder mystery or a western.

    Time is always the issue.
    J4C0B1M
    J4C0B1M --- ---
    WITTGENSTEIN: imao nikdo z nich nenatáhl čtenáře do 3800+ stránkovýho děje bez konce
    WITTGENSTEIN
    WITTGENSTEIN --- ---
    GRRM má dobré komentáře v diskusi pod posledním významným postem (tom o dějinách Targaryenů):

    Understood, Mel… but here’s the thing. You call LOTR “the main story,” but if you had asked Tolkien, he would have said the SIMARILLION was his main story, his life’s work. Yet he was never able to complete it during his lifetime. Not because he did not care, however.

    (Tolkien was an Oxford don, and may actually have considered his teaching to be his life’s work, rather than his writing).

    Just for the sake of argument, let me point out that many many people invest their time into works without endings. F. Scott Fitzgerald never finished THE LAST TYCOON, Charles Dickens never finished EDWIN DROOD, Mervyn Peake never finished TITUS ALONE, yet those works are still read.

    I do intend to finish A SONG OF ICE AND FIRE, of course… but doubtless Peake, Dickens, Fitzgerald, and Tolkien would have said the same.

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