bylo? :)

JVCNC: te munice je vic typu, tohle uz je pokrocilejsi verze s lepsim pistem/spuntem



Functioning of the Soviet PSS Pistol with SP4 Captive Piston Ammunition
http://sadefensejournal.com/wp/?p=1812


Modern Firearms - Russian special ammunition
http://world.guns.ru/ammunition/russian-special-cartridges-e.html

SP-4 silenced ammunition
The key problem with the SP-3 and PZAM ammo were their telescoped pistons, which projected significantly from fired cases and thus made almost impossible to develop the semi-automatic weapons for these cartridges. During late 1970s and early 1980s Soviet designers solved this problem by developing the 7.62x42 SP-4 ammunition, which used the same basic principle. The telescoped two-stage piston has been replaced by single-stage piston, which did not projected from the case when fired; the standard 7.62mm M43 bullet has been replaced by the cylindrical bullet, made of mild steel, and fitted with a brass driving band at the front. This cartridge has been adopted circa 1983 by KGB and Spetsnaz elements of the Soviet Army, along with six-shot, magazine fed, blowback operated semiautomatic PSS pistol and single-shot NRS-1 scout shooting knife. The SP-4 ammunition and PSS pistols are still in use by elite Spetsnaz units within Russian armed forces, as well as by some FSB and MVD elite units. Apparently, the earlier MSP pistol with SP-3 ammo and S4M pistol with PZAM ammo were not phased out of service and still can be encountered in the hands of serious operators, who not require multi-shot capabilities of PSS / SP-4 system.


http://pookieweb.dyndns.org:61129/cartridges/SP4/sp-4.htm

PSS silent pistol (USSR/Russia)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K73kKODFyzw

Spravnej Browning .)

ja uz ani nemam silu argumentovat :) tomu se clovek muze fakt jen zasmat :)

EL_CHUPAKABRA: Udela to na noze uplne stejne, ten kver je az genialne vymyslenej. Jednoduchej a pritom maximalne pouzitelnej v nejhorsich podminkach. PMM pak ma i dvojradej zasobnik, silnejsi naboje a chybi tomu uz k dokonalosti jen polygon v hlavni.
ČZ pi. vz. 82 se jednorucne rozebira kapku hur, pac z toho tak snadno neshrnu pryc zaver silou jedne ruky dostatecne daleko vzad za kolejky, ale jeste to chce trenovat techniku a silnejsi prsty. Ona i ta vratna vzpruha je silnejsi. Zbytek je obdobnej.

jinak jednorucni ovladani..

Makarov pistol (Drills)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEfkefslbAc

EL_CHUPAKABRA: No za jak dlouho rozeberes 1911 k cisteni? Nemyslim doma na stole s lampickou, ale nekde venku, treba v zakopu. Kolik dilu pri tom ztratis?
Na makaronu i poslepu vyklopis lucik, stahnes zaver, co ti zustane v ruce i s pruzinou a mas volno. I ten zastaralej Tokarev se rozebere snadneji nez 1911 a cely spoustovy ustroji je v jednom celku, kterej jde v polnich podminkach zahodit a vymenit behem chvilky aniz jsi puskar.

1911 se udrzel ve vyzbroji tolik let jen proto, ze jich meli a furt maji plny hangary z obou velkych valek. A do te vyzbroje se dostal jen proto, ze s tim specialne slozenym kouskem na zkousky slo vystrilet 6000 ran zatimco konkurencni Savage se ke konci kousal. Jenze od te doby uteklo stoleti a 1911 je davno passe. Nahradily ho Beretty 92FS, Sig P226 a mlocky. Drzi to jen hype a nadsenci podobni tem, kteri nedaji dopustit na coltuv revolver, protoze ten taky kdysi byval "skvela zbran".. tak k cemu pokrok... ne? Indiani by mohli povidat :)



SIRIUS: verim, ze nosis 1911.. je to k noseni primo sikovna skladna pistolka .)

PIKAPRD: simte

XMEDA: Když je někdo fanda do zbraní tak proč nevlastnit vysněnou, funkční, krásnou a takzvanou "matku pistolí"? :) ps. ten tvůj colt na machrování je už strašně přehnanej, na machrování jsou mnohdy lepší takovéto

To je jak kdyby se doted lidi rozvasnovali nad Lugerem P08 nebo prvovalecnym Steyrem..

pritom