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    FESAKFLOYDDementogenní psychofarmaka a metabolické jedy
    Psychiatric Drugs Kill the Lives of Those Who Take Them http://www.encognitive.com/node/1185 Drug-Induced Dementia: a perfect crime http://www.amazon.com/Drug-Induced-Dementia-MD-Grace-Jackson/dp/1438972318 Brain Damage Caused by Neuroleptic Psychiatric Drugs http://www.mindfreedom.org/kb/psychiatric-drugs/antipsychotics/neuroleptic-brain-damage Evidence of Neuroleptic Drug-Induced Brain Damage http://www.ahrp.org/risks/biblio0100.php Arch Gen Psychiatry -- Abstract: Long-term Antipsychotic Treatment and Brain Volumes: A Longitudinal Study of First-Episode Schizophrenia, February 2011, Ho et al. 68 (2): 128 http://archpsyc.ama-assn.org/cgi/content/abstract/68/2/128 Metanalysis: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S014976341200125X Antipsychotic deflates the brain Drug for schizophrenia causes side effects by shrinking part of the brain. http://www.nature.com/news/2010/100606/full/news.2010.281.html Indeed, it looks as if after some 50 years widespread prescribing there is going to be a massive re-evaluation and re-interpretation of these drugs, with a reversal of their evaluation as a great therapeutic breakthrough. It now seems distinctly possible that for half a century the creation of millions of asocial, neuroleptic-dependent but docile Parkinsonian patients has been misinterpreted as a ‘cure’ for schizophrenia. This wholesale re-interpretation represents an unprecedented disaster for the self-image and public reputation – not just of psychiatry – but of the whole medical profession. Perhaps the main useful lesson from the emergence of the 'atypical' neuroleptics is that psychiatrists did not need to make all of their agitated and psychotic patients Parkinsonian in order to suppress their behavior. ‘Atypicals’ are weakly neuroleptic but highly sedative. This implies that sedation is probably sufficient for behavioral control in most instances [3, 17]. In the immediate term, it therefore seems plausible that already-existing, cheap, sedative drugs (such as benzodiazepines or antihistamines) offer realistic hope of being safer, equally effective and subjectively less-unpleasant substitutes for neuroleptics in many (if not all) patients. I would argue that this should happen sooner rather than later. If we apply the test of choosing what treatment we would prefer for ourselves or our relatives with acute agitation or psychosis, knowing what we now know about neuroleptics, I think that many people (perhaps especially psychiatric professionals) would now wish to avoid neuroleptics except as a last resort. Few would be happy to wait a decade or so for the accumulations of a mass of randomized trial data (which may never emerge, since such trials would lack a commercial incentive) before making the choice of less dangerous and unpleasant drugs [17]. But there is no hiding the fact that if neuroleptics were indeed to be replaced by sedatives then this would seem like stepping-back half a century. It would entail an acknowledgement that psychiatry has been living in a chronic delusional state – and this may suggest that the same could apply to other branches of medicine. Since such a wholesale cognitive and organizational reappraisal is unlikely, perhaps the most realistic way that the desired change in practice will be accomplished is not by an explicit ‘return’ to old drugs but by the introduction of a novel (and patentable) class of sedatives which are marketed as having some kind of (more-or-less plausible) new therapeutic role. Why are doctors still prescribing neuroleptics? by Bruce G Charlton http://www.hedweb.com/bgcharlton/neuroleptics.html
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    MORPHLER
    MORPHLER --- ---
    PETGRIDUS: i takove jsem uz potkal.. samozrejme s jinými substancemi je to asi castejsi. a ja to taky beru ze to, ze oni mají pocit ze jim to ublížilo nemusi nutne znamenat ze jim ublizilo zrovna to to. Nemluve o tom ze se jedna o lidi, co asi měli nejake problémy, když dosli k tomu ze do sebe narvali nejake prasky, nebo ze se dokonce dostali do situace kdy jim byla omezena svoboda a narval to do nich někdo jiny.
    PETGRIDUS
    PETGRIDUS --- ---
    MORPHLER: a ty lidi co opravdu docela poškodí do té léčby nemíchali drogy ani alkohol?
    MORPHLER
    MORPHLER --- ---
    CORNELA: no zatím nediskutuje... a ano, i to co popisujes se muze stat (a jak si pamatuju Floyda ...)
    Odpovis mi prosim na to, proc tu teda ty jsi, když to vidíš uz dopředu takhle? (hmm tenhle pocitac ma zajimavy autocorrect :)
    MORPHLER
    MORPHLER --- ---
    MORPHLER: respektive chces se o tom nejak bavit? nebo to tu ma byt jen seznam ruznych studii a odkazu?

    CORNELA: a ty se tu o necem ches bavit, nebo tu jsi jen ze zvedavosti ci pobaveni se jak to Kocourmikes bude rozvadet?

    Pro me je to dost zajimave téma ke kteremu nevim jak se stavet. Nekomu tyhle leky neuveritelne pomohou a nekoho opravdu docela poskodi. A ta razance s kterou pak nekteri ti, kteří mají pocit ujmy bojuji proti psychiatrii je pro me zajimava taky.
    MORPHLER
    MORPHLER --- ---
    KOCOURMIKES: Zahlavi jsem si precetl, ale muj dotaz je smerem o cem ma byt tahle diskuze? O cem se tady chces bavit?
    KOCOURMIKES
    KOCOURMIKES --- ---
    CORNELA: jak se mame pani doktorko ? :))
    KOCOURMIKES
    KOCOURMIKES --- ---
    MORPHLER: precti si zahlavi.

    Psychiatric Drugs Kill the Lives of Those Who Take Them http://www.encognitive.com/node/1185 Drug-Induced Dementia: a perfect crime http://www.amazon.com/Drug-Induced-Dementia-MD-Grace-Jackson/dp/1438972318 Brain Damage Caused by Neuroleptic Psychiatric Drugs http://www.mindfreedom.org/kb/psychiatric-drugs/antipsychotics/neuroleptic-brain-damage Evidence of Neuroleptic Drug-Induced Brain Damage http://www.ahrp.org/risks/biblio0100.php Arch Gen Psychiatry -- Abstract: Long-term Antipsychotic Treatment and Brain Volumes: A Longitudinal Study of First-Episode Schizophrenia, February 2011, Ho et al. 68 (2): 128 http://archpsyc.ama-assn.org/cgi/content/abstract/68/2/128 Metanalysis: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S014976341200125X Antipsychotic deflates the brain Drug for schizophrenia causes side effects by shrinking part of the brain. http://www.nature.com/news/2010/100606/full/news.2010.281.html Indeed, it looks as if after some 50 years widespread prescribing there is going to be a massive re-evaluation and re-interpretation of these drugs, with a reversal of their evaluation as a great therapeutic breakthrough. It now seems distinctly possible that for half a century the creation of millions of asocial, neuroleptic-dependent but docile Parkinsonian patients has been misinterpreted as a ‘cure’ for schizophrenia. This wholesale re-interpretation represents an unprecedented disaster for the self-image and public reputation – not just of psychiatry – but of the whole medical profession. Perhaps the main useful lesson from the emergence of the 'atypical' neuroleptics is that psychiatrists did not need to make all of their agitated and psychotic patients Parkinsonian in order to suppress their behavior. ‘Atypicals’ are weakly neuroleptic but highly sedative. This implies that sedation is probably sufficient for behavioral control in most instances [3, 17]. In the immediate term, it therefore seems plausible that already-existing, cheap, sedative drugs (such as benzodiazepines or antihistamines) offer realistic hope of being safer, equally effective and subjectively less-unpleasant substitutes for neuroleptics in many (if not all) patients. I would argue that this should happen sooner rather than later. If we apply the test of choosing what treatment we would prefer for ourselves or our relatives with acute agitation or psychosis, knowing what we now know about neuroleptics, I think that many people (perhaps especially psychiatric professionals) would now wish to avoid neuroleptics except as a last resort. Few would be happy to wait a decade or so for the accumulations of a mass of randomized trial data (which may never emerge, since such trials would lack a commercial incentive) before making the choice of less dangerous and unpleasant drugs [17]. But there is no hiding the fact that if neuroleptics were indeed to be replaced by sedatives then this would seem like stepping-back half a century. It would entail an acknowledgement that psychiatry has been living in a chronic delusional state – and this may suggest that the same could apply to other branches of medicine. Since such a wholesale cognitive and organizational reappraisal is unlikely, perhaps the most realistic way that the desired change in practice will be accomplished is not by an explicit ‘return’ to old drugs but by the introduction of a novel (and patentable) class of sedatives which are marketed as having some kind of (more-or-less plausible) new therapeutic role. Why are doctors still prescribing neuroleptics? by Bruce G Charlton http://www.hedweb.com/bgcharlton/neuroleptics.html
    MORPHLER
    MORPHLER --- ---
    O cem ma tenhle klub byt?
    KOCOURMIKES
    KOCOURMIKES --- ---
    IOM_NUKSO: antipsychotic drugs have been termed "neuroleptics," in that these drugs' actions imitate a neurological disease. - American Psychiatric Press, Textbook of Psychiatry (1988)
    KOCOURMIKES
    KOCOURMIKES --- ---
    IOM_NUKSO: neber neuroleptika, nebo budes mit poskozenej mozek.
    IOM_NUKSO
    IOM_NUKSO --- ---
    jak se ti tohle vubec povedlo zalozit, to nechapu
    KOCOURMIKES
    KOCOURMIKES --- ---
    pust pomaha proti nemocem mozku:
    Půst pomáhá proti nemocem mozku
    http://blisty.cz/art/62371.html
    KOCOURMIKES
    KOCOURMIKES --- ---
    Dívka svým šepotem navozuje lidem „mozkový orgasmus“ – Novinky.cz
    http://www.novinky.cz/koktejl/357289-divka-svym-sepotem-navozuje-lidem-mozkovy-orgasmus.html
    KOCOURMIKES
    KOCOURMIKES --- ---
    New Study Confirms Electroshock (ECT) Causes Brain Damage | Dr. Peter Breggin
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dr-peter-breggin/electroshock-treatment_b_1373619.html
    KOCOURMIKES
    KOCOURMIKES --- ---
    . . . antipsychotic drugs have been termed "neuroleptics," in that these drugs' actions imitate a neurological disease. - American Psychiatric Press, Textbook of Psychiatry (1988)
    It is also clear that the antipsychotic [neuroleptic] drugs must continue to be scrutinized for the possibility that their extensive consumption might cause general cerebral dysfunction. - Unpublished paper coauthored in 1978 by Igor Grant and others, including Lewis Judd; comment expurgated from published versions
    KOCOURMIKES
    KOCOURMIKES --- ---
    Psychiatric Drugs: Neuroleptics, The Effects of Haldol, Prolixin, Thorazine, Mellaril, and Other Antipsychotic Drugs
    http://www.sntp.net/drugs/damage.htm
    MARTHY23WERZUZZ
    MARTHY23WERZUZZ --- ---
    taky jsem zvědavej :)
    Kliknutím sem můžete změnit nastavení reklam