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    VON_GILOTINEVěci Veřejné - world edition /USA/UK/EU/AUS/CHINA/RUS
    Snaha pro prostor o koncentraci politickych a jinych sfer soudobych zapadnich svetu a jejich konkurentu.
    SEI195216429
    Neumis li si odecitat bias a extrahovat si zakladni fakta, pak jsi medialne negramotny
    rozbalit záhlaví
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    Rudy Giuliani, Mark Meadows and more than a dozen Trump allies indicted in Arizona for fake elector plot | The Independent
    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-indictment-giuliani-meadows-election-b2534358.html
    DAHY
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    MAKROUSEK: Nemlátěj. Nedávno to nějací konzervativní studenti v jakési studii vyvrátili.
    MAKROUSEK
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    HAR4NT: A v americe mlatej cernochy.
    HAR4NT
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    MAKROUSEK: uvnitr nasi zemekoule je jeste jedna mnohem vetsi, akoratze je stlacena, prave proto, aby se tam vesla. Vyvrat mi to.
    VON_GILOTINE
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    MARSHUS: touche!

    “I’m sure you would agree with me that a stable, democratic society requires that a candidate who loses an election, even a close one, even a hotly contested one, leave office peacefully, if that candidate is the incumbent,” Alito said.

    “Of course,” Dreeben replied.

    “All right. Now, if a an incumbent who loses a very close, hotly contested election, knows that a real possibility after leaving office is not that the president is going to be able to go off into a peaceful retirement, but that the president may be criminally prosecuted by a bitter political opponent, will that not lead us into a cycle that destabilizes the functioning of our country as a democracy? Alito asked. “And we can look around the world and find countries where we have seen this process, where the loser gets thrown in jail.”

    Here’s what Dreeben had to say about that:

    So, I think it’s exactly the opposite, Justice Alito. There are lawful mechanisms to contest the results in an election and outside the record, but … [the] petitioner and his allies filed dozens of electoral challenges and my understanding is they lost all but one. That was not outcome determinative in any respect. There were judges that that said, in order to sustain substantial claims of fraud that would overturn … election results … certified by a state, you need evidence, you need proof, and none of those things were manifested. So, there was an appropriate way to challenge things through the courts with evidence, if you lose, if you accept the results. That has been the nation’s experience. I think the court is well familiar with that.
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    VON_GILOTINE
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    Kvalitka. Ponderin the orb hadr..

    Conservative justice Neil Gorsuch asks if a ruling against Trump’s claim of immunity would cause presidents to preemptively pardon themselves, in fear that a successor could decide to prosecute them
    VON_GILOTINE
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    A uz to jede, nejvyssi soud dnes ma slyseni argumentu ve veci prezidentske imunity

    Alito makes an argument for presidential protection
    Justice Alito, and other justices, have raised concerns about political opponents going after presidents without criminal protections.

    “Presidents have to make a lot of tough decisions about enforcing the law.... Did I understand you say... if he makes a mistake he’s subject to the criminal laws?”
    VON_GILOTINE
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    No nic. Popojedem.
    ADAMIRA
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    Dnešní vlna esoteriky a lásky:

    Lawyer says Iran rapper famous for songs after 2022 killing of Mahsa Amini sentenced to death | AP News
    https://apnews.com/article/iran-protests-mahsa-amini-rapper-toomaj-salehi-340ca7634df6c79b48e6514412994b29
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    ZCR: jo jasně důležité jsou pocity a nikoliv data. Řekli mi že je to A tak je to A. Data znamenají používat vlastní hlavu a dělat si vlastní názor.
    MAKROUSEK
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    ZCR: Rozhodne. Tak je zkus poprit. Jen do toho, verime ti.
    ZCR
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    MAKROUSEK: genocida není definovaná podle tebe, to zaprvé, a zadruhé - tebe by k datům vůbec neměli pouštět, protože zjevně netušíš, co si s nimi počít - kromě produkce hahachytráckých mouder.
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    BESH: tak Hamás tu "genocidu" prezentuje jako nutnou sebeobranu, to je pravda.
    O co největší počet mrtvých Palestinců se snaží právě Hamás.
    Odpalování raket proti Izraeli z míst s co největším počtem Palestinců s nadějí na odvetu která zabije co nejvíc civilistů a oni mohli natáčet srdcervoucí videa....
    Blokování potravinové a zdravotní pomocí tak aby mohli točit hladovějící Palestince......

    Na každé Palestinského civilistu kterého zabije Izrael jich připadá dvacet které zabili sami Palestinci aby se vypadali jako oběti a ne jako agresoři kterými ve skutečnosti jsou.....
    MAKROUSEK
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    MARSHUS: Jakym selektivnim vybiranim dat? Genocida je podle me definovana jako snaha o to, aby nejakeho naroda bylo mene a mene, az nezustane nikdo. Pokud je nejakeho naroda porad vic, tak budto nejde o genocidu nebo je to velice neuspesna genocida.
    MARSHUS
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    MAKROUSEK: selektivním vybíráním dat, že jo.
    ADAMIRA
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    MARSHUS: tak zrovna u toho holocaustu to dost sedí

    Jewish Population of the World
    https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jewish-population-of-the-world
    MAKROUSEK
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    MARSHUS: Myslis s pristupem koukani se na data? To asi tezko budu popirat holocaust, tady je treba jasne videt:
    Historical Jewish population by region 1170-1995 | Statista
    https://www.statista.com/statistics/1357607/historical-jewish-population/

    MARSHUS
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    MAKROUSEK: s tímhle přístupem tu budeš zítra popírat holocaust.
    MAKROUSEK
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    BESH: Myslis tu genocidu, diky ktere roste pocet Palestincu o 3% rocne?
    State of Palestine Population (2024) - Worldometer
    https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/state-of-palestine-population/

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