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    GORGworld conspiracy // 911 // free world order! ... part 5 ::
    COOK
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    GORG: Trump nezkousel ani nahodou situaci uklidnit. Naopak, neustalym opakovanim lzi o ukradenych volbach a vyzvami k akci ji aktive a vedome hrotil. Az kdyz uz byli davno vevnitr (ano, policie to posrala), tak rekl, at jdou domu. V tu chvili se dav skutecne zacal rozchazet. Z toho je jasne videt, ze kdyby uklidnoval driv misto hroceni, zadny vniknuti do Kapitolu by nebylo a policie by ani nemela koho "poustet". Tuhle akci ma Trump na svedomi zcela jednoznacne.
    GORG
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    COOK: kauzalitu tady vidím stejně jako u koronaviru, který "zavřel" hospody. Vždyť máš videa, kde lidi vypadající jako policie pouští lidi dovnitř.
    A pár magoru demolujicich property. Většina je mediální spektákl.
    Co je pravdepodobnejsi ... Že najednou jeho příznivci vybočili z tradičního chování? Tady bych spíš čekal , že v tech několika málo případech jde o klasické wag the dog scenérie.

    Klíč bych viděl v policii, která doslova vpustila vědomě lidi dovnitř.
    Dát tam osobní odpovědnost Trumpovi? Ne že bych byl kdovijak fanda, ale ať už staged nebo skutečný fanoušky si nevybíráš :) On osobně zkoušel situaci uklidnit. Část toho uklidňování Twitter smazal, takže ani nevíme díky soudruhům.
    COOK
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    GORG: A ty fakt chces tvrdit, ze nezpusobila? Trump roky podkopava duveru v instituce a slusna media. Legitimizuje bludy nemajici nic spolecnyho s realitou. Legitimizuje rasisty, bigotni krestany a jejich nesnasenlivost vuci vsem krome sebe a agresi. Legitimizuje ruzny polovojensky spolky. Pak prohraje volby a zacne lhat o podvodech, mlit uplny nesmysly, ktery neuzna zadnej soud a hroti svy priznivce, ze musi aktivne vystoupit a bojovat proti tomu udajne zlymu, prolhanymu a zvracenymu systemu, kterej mu ublizuje, roumej proti temer cely spolecnosti, ktera jeste neztratila ve sparech konspiraci kontakt s realitou. Nakonec, svete div se, par nejradikalnejsich kokotu jeho narativ promeni v ciny a jde zajmout ty proradne kongresmany, kteri podle iluze v jejich pomotanych hlavach vyvolane hlavne Trumpem, ukradli velkemu vudci vitezstvi. Jako tady je Trumpova vina za utok na Kapitol kristalove jasna. Nebyt jeho hate speech a nekonecneho lhani, tak se nic takoveho nestalo. Kdyby jako normalni rozumny clovek dokazal prijmout prohru, tak se nic z toho nestalo.
    GORG
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    Onehdá jsem to zahlédl v live zpravodajství z ČT24 nebo jiné české televize...
    Skoro 100% verbalizovaného obsahu bylo, že tam ten dav vnikl kvůli Trumpovi a že jim přímo přikázal, ať jsou násilní. Jeli tam nějaký rychlopřeklad nějaké americké reportérky a v podstatě se z většiny točilo vše jen kolem těchto tvrzení o Trumpovi. Doslova to opakovali furt dokola.
    Jediný citát Trumpa někde z tweetu bylo, že Trump vyzýval lidi proti násilí.
    Nicméně reportéři (a posléze i čeští , kteří ale byli o poznání mírnější v těch hyperbolách) dokola říkali, jak politika Trumpa tohle všechno způsobila, a jak je příznačné, že jeho volební období končí zrovna takhle.

    Do toho pouštěli dokola asi tři záběry, kde asi jeden byl o rozbíjení okna. A do toho znovu rozhovory o tom, jak je Trump špatnej člověk. Zpravodajství :-) Informovat přesněji, co se to tam vlstně děje, nějak nebylo pro novináře podstatné.
    GORG
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    GORG
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    Police open gates and invite protestors into Capitol Buidling. They didn’t “break” in.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ipOgbdM8mE
    TLUSTEI
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    RIVA: Nepřekvapuje. :) A co teprve v auditku o covidu... ;)
    ADM: Instagram nemám, ale používám whatsapp, který taky vlastní fb a nedělám si iluze, že by s něčím podobným nepřispěchali každou chvíli i tam. Až se tak stane, tak holt přejdu to the "dark side" a vyzkouším Telegram.
    RIVA
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    TLUSTEI: V ustavu JP Sears moc popularni neni :)
    ADM
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    TLUSTEI: to je teda mazec s tim instagramem. fakt nevim, jestli se tem lidem, ktery tuhle vec pouzivaji, mam smat (samozrejme pouze v duchu, pokud jde o lidi ktery znam), nebo je spis litovat (stejne tak)..
    TLUSTEI
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    Nění to tak dávno, kdy byl člověk považovanej za těžkýho konspirátora, když nahlas vyjadřoval obavu, že o nás velké nadnárodní koncerny sbírají osobní info. A dneska? Je to v podstatě standard, nad kterým už se málokdo pozastavuje. Ale člověk byl automaticky za šílence. Až se dnešní "konspirace" standardizují, taky po nich neštěkne ani pes. Jenže až ta zjevná totalita jednoho dne, v nějakém autokratickém systému, už nepůjde přehlížet a svádět na bacil nebo raněné city přecitlivělých radikálů, tak prdel skončila, jenže na návrat už bude pozdě.

    Tenhle týpek je ryzí zlato:

    Instagram‘s New Terms of Service - Not Sketchy at All!
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VhSX7IzHkrE
    RIVA
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    Jak rika pan Schwab ve sve knize The Great Reset, v budoucnosti budete jist o dost mene masa.

    Meanwhile in UK (and Ireland):
    UK DEFRA gassing chickens? – OffGuardian
    https://off-guardian.org/2021/01/05/uk-defra-gassing-chickens/
    RIVA
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    How the World has Changed Lately - Dmitry Orlov

    A lot of prognosticators have been been busily prognosticating something or other for the new year, based on a belief that any given year is somehow distinctly and significantly different from any of the previous ones. Of course we all know that a timestamp is just a measurement of time to some specific precision, and any appeals to numerology smack of the occult—something that the Fathers of the Church once called "calendrical heresy."

    Yes, the Earth does orbit around the Sun (overruling objections from the Globalist Flat Earth Society) and there are some interesting geometric points along its path called solstices and equinoxes, but that's about it. And, yes, there are some rituals connected with these interesting points, such as wishing everyone a "Happy New Year!" But as far as predictions, I'd be happy to leave that to the astrologers... except that some of my leaders have been clamoring for a forecast of some sort, and so I'll try to oblige.

    A few things have changed in the world of late that seem very important to know about. Unfortunately, these things cannot be explained to a great many people because they lack the basic concepts in their heads that are needed to understand them. Instead, their heads have been filled with various other synthetic concepts and beliefs that are of dubious consequence. For instance, a great many people seem to think that "globalism" is a thing. Sure, if globalism is the ideological conviction that the Earth is a globe rather than, say, a dodecahedron, then, sure, I believe in globalism. People believe all sorts of things—reptiloids, insectoids, human DNA-editing vaccines, Bitcoin, the Great Reset... You may believe whatever you want, but I am not really into any of that.

    Instead, I'll just make some observations about how the world has changed in the last 1.5­±0.5 years (I believe that's the right time window). These are irrevocable, irretrievable changes of the "you can't squeeze the toothpaste back in the tube" variety. I think that they are fairly obvious, and I apologize for wasting your time if you do so too, but a great many people seem to have missed them, so I'll mention them.

    First, financialization has died. That is, the idea that it is possible to decouple the financial realm from the physical economy, letting the former surge ahead while the latter is allowed to languish, has drive its practitioners into a state of insanity (permanent or temporary—we don't yet know) but that is simply not how the world works. Along with financialization has died the concept of a post-industrial economy where nations can stay rich based on some sort of mutual back-scratching, producing nothing tangible and just exchanging services. Throw in all the "virtual" and "digital" stuff: that's all just there to distract you while the real world crumbles around you.

    The only economy that matters any more is a real economy of mining, energy production, scientific research and development, manufacturing and large-scale infrastructure projects, with sufficient social spending to support these activities. Nations that have all of the above and handle them as national priorities are surging ahead (after scaling back while massacring their parasitic sectors such as international tourism). Nations that have gone all in on globalization, financialization, post-industrialism and virtualization are at best treading water; most of them are drowning in debt. Granting the transnational corporate fox the run of the national henhouse is a suicidal move.

    Second, the last dying embers of Western imperialism have finally been quenched. Western imperialism survived the two 20th-century world wars by handing the imperialist baton to Great Britain and then to the United States (with Great Britain holding to bits of its former greatness thanks to a special relationship with the US). And so we have had half a century, give or take, of a sort of Anglo empire where the English language and American cultural influences infected much of the planet, with Western (mainly Anglo and Northern European) elites calling the shots.

    The USSR served as a sort of counterweight to it, imposing a level of sanity while helping national liberation movements around the world, but after it failed in 1990 the West went into a sort of maenadic trance, eventually coming out of it with a permanent hangover.. Just look at the brain-dead kernel of that former imperial might now: Great Britain. With Northern Ireland about to pop off and remain in the European Union, the United Kingdom dissolves; and with Scotland doing the same via a new referendum, Great Britain will be no more. The rump of England plus Wales will then become the Kingdom of England, as it had been prior to 1707.

    And look at who is the putative king of this kingdom: a clown by the name of Boris Johnson, whose cabinet is made up entirely of Oxford graduates, each sillier than the next! That's what's left of the brain trust of a once mighty empire. And King Boris I of England, though a clown, is an improvement over his shameful predecessor Theresa May, a ghastly mental inadequate. Compared to Theresa, the Granny Queen they keep locked up in the attic looked positively hot to trot. And that is by now the best that this pathetic remnant of a once mighty empire has to offer!

    Are things looking any better in the British Empire 2.0—the Yankee fortress across the Pond? There, they are struggling mightily to replace an orange-headed reality show clown with someone who is likely to serve out a presidential term (or any part thereof) without ever regaining consciousness. For a sidekick they gave him a Jamaican "Matilda"— a grifter who will most likely "take the money and run." Driving the Orange Menace from power has been made difficult by a wave of nostalgia that's gripped half the population who want to continue living well on other people's money. Opposing them is the other half, many of whom feel that it should be possible to continue to live well simply by printing money and handing it out. Neither side will win.

    Meanwhile, the money printing will continue until something snaps. It's hard to blame the Washingtonians for their insane money-printing; when life gives you a printing press, you print lemons (or something like that). Now that two-thirds of US government spending is being printed into existence lots of people are starting to say "Won't be long now!" while the question "How long?" hangs in the still winter air and remains as vexing as ever. But if you are rolling along and the road sign reads "Road ends, cliff ahead" what additional information do you need to decide whether to step on the brakes or the accelerator?

    Or do you just blow up the car. Previously, whenever the capitalist imperialists found themselves at an impasse they started world wars. World War I killed off lots of European peasantry, making room for post-war industrial expansion. World War II blew up all of that industry, giving Americans the opportunity to make money rebuilding it. In the 1970s that industrial juggernaut started running out of gas (oil, actually). But then barely 20 years later the USSR up and died and vultures from the West flew in to feast on the remains. But now, 40 years later, China is the world's economic powerhouse, Russia is resurgent and militarily invincible, and... it's time for another world war? Sure it is, but against whom?

    Attacking China would trigger an inordinately complex and drawn-out regional conflict that could not be sustained without Chinese-made spare parts. Attacking China would also give Russia ample opportunity to turn much of Eurasia into a Russian-held bastion. On the other hand, attacking Russia would just get you killed, and quickly. As Putin put it, in case of war, "we would go to heaven as holy martyrs while the enemy would simply die like dogs, since they wouldn't even have time to repent." Putin also promised to counterattack the centers of decision-making: you order an attack on Russia and—bang!—you are dead, right in your bunker. If in 1941 Russia had the weapons it has today, Hitler would be dead on June 22 of that year, minutes after the first Nazi bombs landed on Kiev.

    Let's be clear on this: The Americans know this; the Russians know this; and the Americans know that the Russians know this. In response to silly harrumphing noises by US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, Russia's Ministry of Foreign Affairs tweeted a painting of Napoleon retreating from Moscow with the derisive caption "Way to go, tough guys..."


    If the impasse in which Western imperialist capitalism finds itself calls for war but the current state of world affairs precludes Western imperialists from starting the next world war, what is the solution? The answer is to start a war against your own people. Tell them that this is because of some virus (a flu virus of the coronaviral variety, somewhat lethal but far more sparing than all of the previous severe flus since the Spanish one a century ago) and go at it, locking them up and destroying their lives and their businesses. Gaslight the population into believing that healthy people can be sick and contagious. Force everyone into a digital concentration camp. Use your control of the media to label anyone who disagrees with this plan a conspiracy theorist.

    An ambitious plan of this sort needs a marketing plan to go with it; thus we have something they have called Global Reset. The term is a bit of mere puffery, but if they called it what it actually is—a Local Lockdown—nobody would buy the books. What the plan calls for is shrinking the global (sorry, local) population (perhaps through forced vaccination?) thus making plenty of room for the rich to stay rich while the poor become destitute. Or something like that. Brilliant and very rich people have been working on this plan for decades, and this is what they have come up with. Impressive, is it not?

    What can you do about any of this? Well, I would love to tell you, but anything you can do about this would most likely be illegal. And if I were to tell you to do something illegal, then it would be incumbent upon me to also tell you how to get away with it. But the methods for getting away with something illegal tend to be highly individualistic, their effectiveness inversely proportional to their frequency of application. Thus, all I can do is encourage you to think for yourselves and to do your own research. Best of luck and, of course, Happy New Year!
    RIVA
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    LUKK:
    Sorry za latinsky nesmysl drive (uz jsem se smazal). Je to "summa scientia nihil scire"
    Summa scientia nihil scire in English with examples
    Summa scientia nihil scire in English with examples
    https://mymemory.translated.net/en/Latin/English/summa-scientia-nihil-scire
    GORG
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    WHO warns Covid-19 pandemic is 'not necessarily the big one' | World news | The Guardian
    https://www.theguardian.com/...020/dec/29/who-warns-covid-19-pandemic-is-not-necessarily-the-big-one

    Experts tell end of year media briefing that virus is likely to become endemic and the world will have to learn to live with it

    World Health Organization experts have warned that even though the coronavirus pandemic has been very severe, it is “not necessarily the big one”, and that the world will have to learn to live with Covid-19.

    The “destiny” of the virus is to become endemic, even as vaccines begin to be rolled out in the US and UK, says Professor David Heymann, the chair of the WHO’s strategic and technical advisory group for infectious hazards.

    “The world has hoped for herd immunity, that somehow transmission would be decreased if enough persons were immune,” he told the WHO’s final media briefing for 2020.


    Australia insists WHO inquiry into Covid origin must be robust, despite China tensions
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    But Heymann, who is also an epidemiologist with the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine, said the concept of herd immunity was misunderstood.

    “It appears the destiny of SARS-CoV-2 [Covid-19] is to become endemic, as have four other human coronaviruses, and that it will continue to mutate as it reproduces in human cells, especially in areas of more intense admission.

    “Fortunately, we have tools to save lives, and these in combination with good public health will permit us to learn to live with Covid-19.”

    The head of the WHO emergencies program, Dr Mike Ryan, said: “The likely scenario is the virus will become another endemic virus that will remain somewhat of a threat, but a very low-level threat in the context of an effective global vaccination program.

    “It remains to be seen how well the vaccines are taken up, how close we get to a coverage level that might allow us the opportunity to go for elimination,” he said. “The existence of a vaccine, even at high efficacy, is no guarantee of eliminating or eradicating an infectious disease. That is a very high bar for us to be able to get over.”

    That was why the first goal of the vaccine was to save lives and protect the vulnerable, Ryan said. “And then we will deal with the moonshot of potentially being able to eliminate or eradicate this virus.”

    Ryan warned that the next pandemic may be more severe. “This pandemic has been very severe … it has affected every corner of this planet. But this is not necessarily the big one,” he said.

    “This is a wake-up call. We are learning, now, how to do things better: science, logistics, training and governance, how to communicate better. But the planet is fragile.

    “We live in an increasingly complex global society. These threats will continue. If there is one thing we need to take from this pandemic, with all of the tragedy and loss, is we need to get our act together. We need to honour those we’ve lost by getting better at what we do every day.”

    WHO chief scientist Dr Soumya Swaminathan told the briefing that being vaccinated against the virus did not mean public health measures such as social distancing would be able to be stopped in future.

    The first role of the vaccine would be to prevent symptomatic disease, severe disease and deaths, she said. But whether the vaccines would also reduce the number of infections or prevent people from passing on the virus remains to be seen.


    “I don’t believe we have the evidence on any of the vaccines to be confident that it’s going to prevent people from actually getting the infection and therefore being able to pass it on,” Swaminathan said. “So I think we need to assume that people who have been vaccinated also need to take the same precautions.”

    The WHO director general, Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus, said the end of the year was a time to reflect on the toll the pandemic had taken, but also the progress made. He said the year ahead would see new setbacks and new challenges.

    “For example, new variants of Covid-19, and helping people who are tired of the pandemic continue to combat it,” he said.

    “New ground has been broken, not least with the extraordinary cooperation between the private and public sector in this pandemic. And in recent weeks, safe and effective vaccine rollout has started in a number countries, which is an incredible scientific achievement.

    “This is fantastic, but WHO will not rest until those in need everywhere have access to the new vaccines and are protected.”

    // Takže opět měli pravdu "konspirační teoretici"? Stále s větší intenzitou se přiznává, že celé to zaklínání čekáním na vakcínu, vlastně nebyla pravda - že ani vakcína tenhle nový světový normál neukončí.
    GORG
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    Woman who developed narcolepsy after swine flu jab had 'no quality of life' | UK news | The Guardian
    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/jul/13/woman-narcolepsy-swine-flu-jab-no-quality-life

    Family of 23-year-old Katie Clack, who took her own life after struggling with the terrible effects of her incurable sleep disorder, vows to fight for justice

    A 23-year-old nursery assistant who developed narcolepsy after receiving a swine flu vaccine took her own life last year, telling her family that living with the incurable sleep disorder had become unbearable.

    Katie Clack’s death raises fresh questions about the government’s long refusal to compensate about 80 people who developed narcolepsy as a rare side-effect of the vaccine, on the basis that the condition is not serious enough to merit payouts.


    In an interview with the Guardian, Katie’s sister, Emma Sutton, 25, said that narcolepsy had turned her sister’s life into a terrible struggle, describing how she was transformed from an energetic young woman who had just discovered her passion working with children, to someone who was heavily dependent on her family and crippled by mental health problems.

    “We cannot believe she would have decided to take her own life had the balance of her mind not been disturbed,” said Sutton. “We feel she was let down by the defective vaccine, which caused her narcolepsy and by the insufficient intervention and support, which ultimately led to this tragedy.”

    In a note, written on the day that she died, Katie urged her family to pursue her legal case, saying that she had been left with “no quality of life”.

    “She said she wanted us to pursue claims because the narcolepsy caused her depression and led to a tumble of suicidal thoughts,” said Sutton. “She said: ‘It’s very important to me that you pursue this.’”

    An inquest, due to take place this summer, will consider whether Clack received adequate medical care and the role her illness may have played in her death.

    The nursery worker, from Peterborough, received the Pandemrix jab, made by GlaxoSmithKline, when she was 18 as part of a national vaccination scheme during the 2009-10 swine flu pandemic. Clack was in a high priority group for immunisation because she worked with young children – a job in which she excelled after finding school difficult due to her dyslexia.

    “We were all so proud of her. She really loved children,” said Sutton, describing how her sister would turn up at her house to play with her two young daughters. “The toys were out, the paint was out, within a matter of minutes it was like a hurricane. They loved it.”

    While the swine flu outbreak never reached the proportions that were initially feared, scientists believe that the vaccine, which was given to about 6 million people in Britain, caused narcolepsy in a tiny fraction of patients.

    We feel she was let down by the defective vaccine, which caused her narcolepsy and by the insufficient ... support
    Emma Sutton

    The government accepts this link, but has so far argued those affected do not meet the threshold for the Department for Work and Pensions’ vaccine compensation scheme, which automatically awards a £120,000 lump sum to anyone with “severe and permanent” disabilities.

    A few weeks after receiving the vaccine, Clack began feeling overwhelming daytime sleepiness, a defining symptom of narcolepsy, and was sleeping 18 or 19 hours each day by the time she was diagnosed a year later.


    “Sometimes she’d leave work at 3pm and wouldn’t get home until 7pm because she’d fall asleep on the bus and go around Peterborough several times,” said Sutton. “She was so shy she would never ask the bus driver: ‘Can you wake me up?’ People used to take pictures of her on their phones and were really nasty, not knowing, obviously. They’d think she was drunk.”

    Clack also began suffering from cataplexy attacks, the total loss of muscle control during sudden bursts of emotion, such as happiness, which caused her to collapse without warning. She suffered night terrors, imagining that she was surrounded by giant spiders, and sleep paralysis, the temporary inability to move on waking up.

    Although she continued to live in her own flat, Clack stopped taking baths after falling asleep with the taps running and flooding her neighbours’ flat, cooking meals was too risky, she lost a series of jobs and gained a large amount weight – a common side-effect of narcolepsy.

    “She said: ‘You can’t imagine my life. I have no life.’ That rings in my head a lot,” Sutton recalled.

    In 2013, she began suffering psychotic episodes and said she was hearing voices, possibly linked to the high dose of the stimulant drug, modafinil, that she was prescribed to help her stay awake. She was admitted to hospital several times, spending her 21st birthday on a psychiatric ward.

    Sutton said the government’s rejection of compensation claims from about 80 other patients was incomprehensible and welcomed a landmark ruling last month by the upper tribunal court ordering damages to be paid to a 12-year-old boy. “If they lived with one of these people for a day, they’d change their mind. It just seems crazy.”

    While alive, Clack was one of a group pursuing an ongoing civil action against GlaxoSmithKline, which manufactured the vaccine. The costs of any financial settlement are likely to be met by the taxpayer because of an indemnity signed between the government and the pharmaceutical giant.

    Separately, Clack’s family applied posthumously to the DWP’s Vaccine Damages Scheme in October (she did not apply while alive), but are yet to receive a decision. The government wrote to the family in June to say it was seeking legal advice on the case. “We just feel let down,” said Sutton. “My mum just really wants someone to say they are accountable.”

    Dr Mike Fitzpatrick, a former London GP who has spent much of his career promoting vaccines, said the medical case of the family was compelling. “I don’t understand why DWP doesn’t agree to provide compensation,” he said. “The crucial thing to maintain public trust is to provide compensation on the very rare occasion that there’s an adverse effect. It’s a vital principle to uphold here. The personal stories are catastrophic.”

    A Department of Health official said: “Narcolepsy is a distressing illness and our deepest sympathies go to Katie Clack’s family and friends following her tragic death. Pandemrix vaccine was used to prevent serious illness and deaths during the swine flu pandemic in 2009-10. At the time, the possible association with narcolepsy was not known. This remains under scientific investigation.

    “We have agreed to fund the treatment of claimants with Xyrem, and are working with both their lawyers and the vaccine manufacturer to consider the personal injury claims as quickly as possible. We cannot comment on any individual case.”

    A GSK spokesman said: “We are actively researching the observed association between Pandemrix and narcolepsy and the interaction this vaccine might have had with other risk factors in those affected.

    “We’re also continuing to support ongoing work from other experts and organisations investigating reported cases of this condition and we hope these efforts will enable us to provide more answers in the future. We take the safety of patients who entrust their health in our vaccines and medicines very seriously.”
    LUKK
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    SPAJDA02: je to smutný svět, kde konspirační teorie opustily své teritoria vymezované jen specifickými weby či kanály na trubce. Žijeme v postfaktické době a každý si může díky internetu tvrdit v podstatě cokoliv a strhávat s sebou další a další...Pravda pozbývá významu a stokrát omleté lži se stávají pravdou...je mi z toho nanic. Věřit blbostem typu reptiliáni či ploché země mi přijde jako záplata ,která ve výsledku uspokojí jen zakořeněnou touhu po mentální úspoře....kdy je jednodušší uvěřit definitivní ale nesmyslné lži než si uznat to..... že nevíme zhola nic...a to že je to ve veřejnoprávní televizi....vtípek podle mne .... ale nic proti....tahle kolem půlnoci,kdy hlava přijme všechno...jako zábava dobrý....ale ráno se prober a nevěř všemu:)
    SPAJDA02
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    jinak snad toto mají všichni nastudované, je to tak?

    FBI Records: The Vault — UFO
    https://vault.fbi.gov/UFO
    SPAJDA02
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    LUKK: pojď do toho neboj se ničeho, já jen že takových videí sem viděl spoustu, kdesi na netu, ale ne na webu veřejnoprávní televize, to je to co mně zaráží nic víc...
    LUKK
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    SPAJDA02: sic mám na jazyku spoustu slov ,nejdu do toho...příjemnou zábavu :)
    SPAJDA02
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    LUKK: veřejnoprávní televize?
    Kliknutím sem můžete změnit nastavení reklam