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"You sit almost motionless, relaxed, your eyes focused on a glowing screen - the only source of light in an otherwise dark room. Your fingers tap lightly as your mind converges on the words and images that float before you. At times it seems like there is no difference between your thoughts and those images. At times it seems the distinction between inner and outer worlds almost disappears. At times, time itself evaporates. You are a computer user immersed in cyberspace. All melts into a new reality that transcends the rules of conventional reality. Like a Zen master in meditation, you have become one with with the virtual universe.
" z http://www.rider.edu/suler/psycyber/psycyber.html

ehm no ..ted jsem mi doslo ze Carnivore Webcam Sniffing( ten druhej odkaz co jsem sem dala) te vlastne monitoruje jak ve fyzickem tak virtualnim prostredi...ale pocitac musis mi stejne zaplej:)

ADAMM:
no to jo...ale monitoruje tvuj pohyb kde?..ja bych rekla po internetu.(ale mozna sem to pochopila blbe?)no minimalne tvuj pohyb v kyberprostoru,ze ano:).....kdyz vypnes pocitac a pujdes parit tak te to snad monitorovat nebude:)

KHALAVERA: vsak ja se k tomu tehdy dostal taky nikoliv pres original, ale pres praystation - http://ps3.praystation.com/pound/assets/2001/11-20-2001/index.html

no ted jsem se dival na tu druhou vec - a to jako ano... vsak je to open source, a vyuziti jiz hotove API je cesta pokroku :)

ADAMM: sice stará věc, ale vždy fungovala jako jádro pro klienty, které už vytvářel někdo jiný a podle toho druhého odkazu to vypadá, že se v tom pokračuje

MARURA: carnivore je stara vec, ale neni to pohyb po internetu, je to "tvuj" pohyb - monitoruje to vsechno, co delas, ponevadz i nazvem se to odvolava na jeden monitorovaci program, pouzivany FBI.

What data does Carnivore monitor?
Your data. Whatever network you are plugged into. If your computer is at work, then Carnivore will "hear" the web traffic from your co-workers. If you take Carnivore home, then it will "hear" the data at your home... and so on.

CarnivorePE is inspired by DCS1000, a piece of software used by the FBI to perform electronic wiretaps. (Until recently, DCS1000 was known by its nickname "Carnivore.") Improving on the FBI software, CarnivorePE features new functionality including: artist-made diagnosic clients, remote access, full subject targetting, full data targetting, volume buffering, transport protocol filtering, and an open source software license. Carnivore is created by RSG.

M0RF: pravda, ten tady trochu vybočuje :)

no ja myslim ze vic realtime by to mohlo byt jedine ze by se to "updatovalo" rychleji nez kazdou sekundu...ale co vic?..to jak to vypada nehraje moc roli, autori proste zvolili takovouhle formu...
tohle treba taky pracuje s realtime visualizaci pohybu po internetu((?)Internet traffic) http://r-s-g.org/carnivore/ a toto je podle me opravdu zajimavy

M0RF: vsak jasny, ja sem te nechtel nejak osocovat nebo tak. jen ze to co jsi napsal nedava moc smysl. teda mne ne

KHALAVERA: ano respektuju... ale prece jenom transhumanismus je dost o budoucnosti a svetlych zitrcich.
LOPIN: na todle neni lehke odpovedet... mozna nekdy jindy nechci vas tady moc prudit ;) a navic asi nemam na to abych to ted z fleku popsal, fakt to neni jednoduchy :/

ano...zde je to tezky Buddhismus->byti v pritomnosti:D
ten web je odsud http://www.visualcomplexity.com/ ...to tady nekdo dal tenhle odkaz,nekdy pred tydnem...

M0RF: tak me to teda vysvetli prosim. jak si predstavujes realtime mod graficke reprezentace jez by byl pribliznou projekci kyberspace? Pokud todle jsou stripky tak by jsi na to chtel nonstop cucet na nejakym plazma panelu? to je asi stejny jako koukat v televizi na to jak tece reka. hrozne prinosny

M0RF: tak to sis spletl klub, tady žijeme přítomností ;)
MARURA: hmm, zajímavý web

LOPIN: Pro nekoho kecy, pro nekoho budoucnost...
MARURA: Chtel bych zit v budoucnosti ;) ale obavam se, ze by to bylo stejne jako zit v pritomnosti, nebot bych se furt tesil co prijde dal. Ano swarm je tomu tak trochu podobny... mozna jeden z prvnich kroku.

M0RF: se mas..uz zijes v budoucnosti:)...treba swarm...i kdyz mozna neni uplne realtime ,ale"It updates itself every second":)

LOPIN: :DDD ano to si presne ted myslim..a ja chudak ubozak o takovejch kecech musim napsat esej:(

M0RF: ja na to cekat nebudu pac to jsou kecy

Ty grafy se tomu primitivne blizi, ale nejsou realtime... az budeme schopni zachytit v realtime modu data putujici siti a graficky je reprezentovat, tak bude mozne udelat pribliznou projekci cyberspace. Na to si jeste hodne dlouho pockame. V soucasne dobe jsou to spis stripky cyberspace :)

Cyberspace definition

Gibson defines cyberspace as "a consensual hallucination experienced daily by billions of legitimate operators, in every nation, by children being taught mathematical concepts... A graphical representation of data abstracted from the banks of every computer in the human system. Unthinkable complexity. Lines of light ranged in the non-space of the mind, clusters and constellations of data"