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    MESKPeak Oil - zlom ropy
    VSOUKOLOHLOR
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    Breaking ice: Gazprom’s LNG tanker opens first Arctic sea route — RT
    http://rt.com/business/news/tanker-arctic-sea-route-complete-337/
    VSOUKOLOHLOR
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    Břidličná bublina a blížící se deprese | Finmag.cz
    http://www.finmag.cz/cs/finmag/kaleidoskop/bridlicna-bublina-a-blizici-se-deprese/
    VSOUKOLOHLOR
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    An Oil Gusher in the Offing, but Will It Be Enough?
    http://www.sciencemag.org/content/338/6111/1139.short
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    no, sice těžit se to asi nebude, ale podle názvu to patří sem :-)
    Ropa v kosmické mlhovině - Leonardo - věda a technika jasně a přehledně (Český rozhlas)
    http://www.rozhlas.cz/leonardo/vesmir/_zprava/ropa-v-kosmicke-mlhovine--1143595
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    VSOUKOLOHLOR:
    VSOUKOLOHLOR: hele, měl bych námitku akorát v tom, že nevidím důvod, proč by "tech improvement" měl podléhat Hubertově křivce... spíš jde o změnu tvaru Hubertovy křivky, ne? (ovšem docela pro-peak-oilově - tedy že její špička bude výše a pravá strana bude strmější, a celková plocha pod křivkou se může mírně zvýšit, ale samozřejmě ne neomezeně...)
    VSOUKOLOHLOR
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    XCHAOS: +

    vtpeaknik
    But those (labeled) curves show GOM to be down to zero since 1980, and Alaska since 2000 - both clearly false. So I wonder, to what extent is this a bottom-up summation of known production curves, vs. a top-down curve-fitting exercise, trying to decompose the actual production into a sum of Hubbert type curves, and then trying to label the resulting individual curves after something in the real world?

    ROCKMAN
    vt - I just took those curves as more diagramatic. I think even some of the E Texas wells are producing but just very much. For instance many of the wells drilled in Texas 50+ years are still producing. Likewise many of the Bakken wells will still be producing long after that curve goes to zero.
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    XCHAOS: Jsem myslel, že z té dvojité čepičky je patrné, že to jsou USA.
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    XCHAOS: Jo, aha. To je graf produkce USA! Zde i s legendou, i když je to intepretace, nikoliv autorova legenda...

    VSOUKOLOHLOR
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    Energy pricing: the market is manipulation | Chris Cook | Comment is free | The Guardian
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/nov/13/energy-pricing-market-manipulation-whistleblower
    VSOUKOLOHLOR
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    XCHAOS: Jak zemí? Spíš států, ne? Ale nevím, nestudoval jsem to detailně.
    VSOUKOLOHLOR
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    MESK
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    VSOUKOLOHLOR: jen jestli to neukradli Krečkovi v noční košili ;)
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    Autor revolučného motora: Slovensko preslávime | style.hnonline.sk - Auto-Moto
    http://style.hnonline.sk/auto/c1-58690390-autor-revolucneho-motora-slovensko-preslavime
    XCHAOS
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    VSOUKOLOHLOR: tohle je hrozně hustý... pouze mi tam chybí legenda, kterých zemí se ty dílčí Hilbertovy křivkyk týkají... jsou to fakt křivky všech producentů, a nebo jen náhodně vybraná data, aby to celé sedělo?

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    The Oil Drum | Peak, What Peak?
    http://www.theoildrum.com/node/9619
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    David Korowicz's response to the Irish Times editorial:

    The IEA report shows that global conventional oil has peaked. Their estimate for future growth in supply is to come from natural gas liquids and unconventional resources. Such new supply is inherently lower quality- as old conventional oil production declines it is being replaced by lower quality unconventional oil.

    Lower quality means a lower energy profit and requires higher oil prices for production to be viable. But economies cannot pay an arbitrarily high price for oil as higher prices start to hinder economic growth.

    The US shale rush adds a further dimension to ‘low quality’. Rapid production drop-offs, of up to 90% per well in a year mean an escalating requirement for new borrowing and capital to keep the show on the road. But the industry is currently completely in the red and up to its eyes in debt. Further, there are very good grounds for arguing of the shale gas industry has massively overestimating reserved (though it is flows that are important for economic activity). Taken together- the industry is a bubble that will probably burst sooner rather than later.

    A very important associated point is there remains a huge risk of a major global deflationary depression, with a possibility for profound and dangerous shocks (applies to Germany and the US as much as Ireland). This would lead to a significant drop in oil prices as economic activity drops and financial positions are unwound. This would call a halt to unconventional oil and shale gas production as prices fall below the marginal cost and credit markets dry up. The evolving financial crisis will kill shale gas bubble (though the industry bubble would kill it eventually). Further- for more involved reasons- production is unlikely to ever recover to current levels.

    It (a financial crisis and global economic depression) will also cause a drop in greenhouse gas emissions. This highlights the intrinsic relationship between energy flows, economic growth and emissions- all rooted in the laws of physics.

    To understand these issues we need to look beyond the silo thinking found within economics, the energy industry and the environmental movement. We live in a highly integrated globalised economy, where the integrity of one critical part is intimately related to the stability of another part.

    Further, if you wish to rely on the ‘authority’ of large institutions like the IEA, remember they have been seriously wrong before. As have other high status institutions like the ESRI and the OECD who could not even spot a massive global credit bubble.

    We need to be open to the possibility that, with the best will in the world, a major depression is coming and we need to work out how to manage it as best we can for all our welfare.
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