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    CROMETeorie a praxe kolektivních vztahů, polyamory, svobodné vztahy

    Pratele, cilem teto diskuzni skupiny by mela byt seriozni debata na temata tykajicich se svobodnych (zamerne nepisi volnych) vztahu.

    Vzhledem k tomu, ze se stale presvedcuji, ze nejrozsirenejsi model partnerskych vztahu monogamne-nuklearnich rodinnych bunek (jez jsou vysledkem vice nez 2000 let trvajici oprese krestanske-patriarchalni moralky) je jiz nadale neudrzitelny a do budoucna dokonce velmi destruktivni, je treba hledat jine formy radostnejsich a i spolecensko-kulturne udrzitelnejsich, svobodnejsich vztahu.

    Je mozne milovat vice lidi? Je mozne zbavit se zarlivosti a majetnickeho chovani ve vztazich? Je romanticka laska opravdu tim spravnym idealem hodnym nasledovani?

    Polyamory-Česky
    rozbalit záhlaví
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    The Yale Review | Brandy Jensen: "The Polycrisis"
    https://yalereview.org/article/brandy-jensen-polycrisis

    Pobavilo:
    In January’s New York feature, a member of a polycule named Nick described his relationship like this: “Some people like to run marathons. We like to do polyamory, complex relationship stuff. Sarah’s favorite activity for the two of us to do is couples therapy.”

    Zmiňoval jsem dřív
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    Ale přidám ještě

    ‘I wanted sexual adventures, I didn’t want to fall in love’: Molly Roden Winter on her astonishing memoir of an open marriage | Sex | The Guardian
    https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2024/apr/21/i-wanted-sexual-adventures-i-didnt-want-to-fall-in-love-molly-roden-winter-on-her-astonishing-memoir-of-an-open-marriage
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/books/2024/01/14/more-open-marriage-winter-book/
    https://www.reddit.com/r/books/comments/198wngu/more_a_memoir_of_open_marriage_by_molly_winter/
    The thing that was wild to me was that there are two memoirs in one. One about a woman exploring open marriage (what she set out to tell). And one about a manipulative husband who she doesn't want to lose so she is doing everything she can to pretend this is a mutual decision.

    Autorčin blog/Substack
    Molly’s Substack | Molly Roden Winter | Substack
    https://mollyrodenwinter.substack.com/
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    https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/13/books/molly-roden-winter-more-book-open-marriage.html

    (S trochou štěstí s uBlockem / uMatrixem / anonymním oknem nebo jiným trikem překonáte paywall.)

    Ale je to o tomhle
    More: A Memoir of Open Marriage by Molly Roden Winter | Goodreads
    https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/70251573-more

    MOLLY RODEN WINTER
    https://www.mollyrodenwinter.com/

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/books/2024/01/14/more-open-marriage-winter-book/
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    Anketa (výstup nevím kdy)

    Tell us: share your experience of ethical non-monogamy | Australian lifestyle | The Guardian
    https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2024/jan/16/tell-us-share-your-experience-of-ethical-non-monogamy-monogamous-enm-relationship
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    Episode 235: The Surprising Politics of Polyamory - Sex and Psychology
    https://www.sexandpsychology.com/blog/podcast/episode-235-the-surprising-politics-of-polyamory/
    Polyamorists tend to be stereotyped and portrayed in the popular media as pretty liberal bunch. However, it turns out that they're actually quite diverse in their political views. This isn't surprising when you start to trace the history of the modern polyamory movement in America, because what we see is that it actually has strong libertarian roots. In today's show, we're going to explore the fascinating (and surprising) intersection between polyamory and politics, including how libertarian science fiction writers in the 1960s helped turbocharge interest in polyamory. I am joined once again by Christopher Gleason, who lectures at Kennesaw State University and is the Director of Academic Programs at the Georgia Coalition for Higher Education in Prisons. He lives in Atlanta and his latest book is titled American Poly: A History. Some of the topics we explore include:
    • Who was Robert Heinlein, and what impact did his sci-fi book Stranger in a Strange Land have on American polyamory?
    • Ayn Rand is an author known for shaping right-wing thought, but her work was influential to polyamorists during the sexual revolution. What's the story there?
    • How did a return to sexual conservatism in the 1980s lead to an organized polyamory movement?
    • Why is there a heated debate in the poly community about whether polyamory is about sex versus connection and spirituality?
    • Are individuals on the political left more likely to embrace polyamory as an identity than those with other political views?
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    YEETKA
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    KOTENCE: mně přijde, že zralý, zdravý a dospělý člověk je za své emoce a city zcela zodpovědný sám za sebe..
    pokud vznikne situace "já se bavím a on/ona je zamilovaný" pak je to nejspíš otázka jasné komunikace.. potom je možný pro zdravého, zralého člověka se rozhodnout jestli i tak pokračuje ve vztahu /vztahování se nebo ne..
    pakárna nebo úskalí je to jak se komu co významuje..
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    Zdeňka Pospíšilová - psychologie
    https://www.facebook.com/psychozdenka

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    Episode 181: Attachment Styles and Consensual Non-Monogamy - Sex and Psychology
    https://www.sexandpsychology.com/blog/podcast/episode-181-attachment-styles-and-consensual-non-monogamy/
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    Episode 180: 5 Misconceptions About Consensual Non-Monogamy - Sex and Psychology
    https://www.sexandpsychology.com/blog/podcast/episode-180-5-misconceptions-about-consensual-non-monogamy/
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    PREKOTKA: Poslechl. Trochu mi vadily ty pasáže, kde je hodně znát, že čte připravený text.
    S manželem měla teda pokud vím i díl Šimrání.
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    ‘Hades’ Nails Its Depictions of Polyamory and Kink | WIRED
    https://www.wired.com/story/hades-inclusivity-polyamory-kink/
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    České vydání The Ethical Slut stále skladem…

    Etická coura - Dossie Easton, Janet W. Hardy | KOSMAS.cz - vaše internetové knihkupectví
    https://www.kosmas.cz/knihy/256731/eticka-coura/
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    Polyamory as an Adaptive Strategy in an Unstable World | Psychology Today United Kingdom
    https://www.psychologytoday.com/gb/blog/the-polyamorists-next-door/202212/polyamory-as-an-adaptive-strategy-in-an-unstable-world
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    Hinge's Relationship Type Feature Is For Non-Monogamous Daters
    https://www.bustle.com/wellness/hinge-relationship-type-feature-non-monogamy
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    MATEJCIK: Ja jsem se ho na to ptal a mas zadarmo tri novy konverzace denne. Ne tri celkem. Tak to zas neni tak zly
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    VELADA: mame porad srazy, ale v posledni dobe chodi min lidi nez driv

    Jinak k te seznamce. Tan clovek se rozhodl ze to udela, a ja si mslim ze je to minmalne dobrej pokus. Uplne se mi nelibi to jak to chce monetizovat. jeste se pokusim na nej trochu zapusobit smerem ze na seznamce je potreba mit hodne lidi, aby to za neco stalo a ze s takhle prisnym pristupem jich moc nenabere, uvidime.

    A k tomu poctu lidi, bei to ted oficialne ctyri dny, takze je brzo to vyhodnocovat.

    Sdilel jsem link, protoze verim tomu ze ma smysl to zkusit. Ale samozrejme kdo nechce tak v pohode
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