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    REDGUYBojova letadla 1950+
    FEMUR
    FEMUR --- ---
    neco z vlastni zahradky, USS Interpid, New York









    a tady je zbytek, http://adhoc.rajce.idnes.cz/New_York,vol.II,_2011

    neco se opakuje, rajce je na hovno.:)
    JVHV
    JVHV --- ---
    ANARCHY: To neni, vzhledem ke specifikaci MiGu-31 nic divneho. Dva motory jak krava, dve cisterny ze kterych do nich tece palivo proudem a jen tak mimochodem na tom pridelana kridla. Vzhledem k tomu, kolik ty masiny maji odletano a v jakych rezimech, nutne se nekde nejaka hadice musi casem urvat. Ale tech kluku je skoda :o(
    FTN
    FTN --- ---
    ANARCHY: damn...
    Superfast Military Aircraft Crashed in Pacific Ocean, DARPA Says | Space.com
    http://www.space.com/12610-superfast-military-aircraft-crashed-pacific-ocean-darpa.html
    TOXYGEN
    TOXYGEN --- ---
    velmi huste fotky
    MJAgallery
    http://www.mjaviation.co.uk/MJAgallery.htm
    ANARCHY
    ANARCHY --- ---
    TWISTRABBIT: jj, to tam pisou, ale Saab kvuli tomu asi nezkrachuje...
    TWISTRABBIT
    TWISTRABBIT --- ---
    ANARCHY: gripen taky skončil v indickym tendru
    ANARCHY
    ANARCHY --- ---
    REDGUY
    REDGUY --- ---
    Spocitejte si jak dlouho byste museli vydelavat na jednu letovou hodinu F-22 8)

    Support: F-35 Tech Rescues The F-22
    http://www.strategypage.com/htmw/htcbtsp/articles/20110410.aspx
    REDGUY
    REDGUY --- ---
    REDGUY
    REDGUY --- ---
    Listen: Secret Libya Psyops, Caught by Online Sleuths | Danger Room | Wired.com
    http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2011/03/secret-libya-psyops/
    FTN
    FTN --- ---
    HARPER: jj, a taky bohužel vlastňák :-/
    HARPER
    HARPER --- ---
    rikali ze to je 23 a ze je povstalecka, ne?
    REDGUY
    REDGUY --- ---
    Trochu lepsi obrazek sestrelu.

    BLAAZEN
    BLAAZEN --- ---
    BLAAZEN
    BLAAZEN --- ---
    REDGUY: JJ maji a prý se tam s tim Migem poflakoval celkem dlouho. Zbytky Suchoje
    REDGUY
    REDGUY --- ---
    Fotka z toho sestrelu. Prijde mi to jako Flogger, coz? A vlevo nahore od letadla chlapek co zrovna zaziva dost blbej den 8|
    Zajimalo by me co ho dostalo. Jestli uz francouzi, nebo jestli mel kliku nekdo z povstalcu s AAA. Nebo jestli maji povstalci nejaky prenosny SAMy?

    REDGUY
    REDGUY --- ---
    Bojove letadlo sestreleno na Benghazi:
    Fighter jet shot down over Benghazi
    http://news.yahoo.com/video/world-15749633/24580987

    Lybie muze byt prvnim ostrym nasazenim F-22:
    Libyan No Fly Zone and What U.S.Air Force Would Provide - ABC News
    http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/libyan-fly-zone-usair-force-provide/story?id=13164848
    (docela by me zajimalo jak se citi lybijsti piloti kdyz se tohle dozvi 8| Nejnovejsi co maji jsou MiGy-23, -25 a Mirage F-1, viz http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/libya/af-orbat.htm )
    REDGUY
    REDGUY --- ---
    Neni to sice o bojovych letadlech, ale dost zajimavy - povidani pilota 767 ktera se blizila k Japonsku v hodne blbej moment. Prosim nesirit.

    Hey all,
    
    I'm currently still in one piece, writing from my room in the Narita crew hotel.
    It's 8am. This is my inaugural trans-pacific trip as a brand new, recently
    checked out, international 767 Captain and it has been interesting, to say the
    least, so far. I've crossed the Atlantic three times so far so the ocean
    crossing procedures were familiar.
    
    By the way, stunning scenery flying over the Aleutian Islands. Everything was
    going fine until 100 miles out from Tokyo and in the descent for arrival. The
    first indication of any trouble was that Japan air traffic control started
    putting everyone into holding patterns. At first we thought it was usual
    congestion on arrival. Then we got a company data link message advising about
    the earthquake, followed by another stating Narita airport was temporarily
    closed for inspection and expected to open shortly (the company is always so
    positive).
    
    From our perspective things were obviously looking a little different. The
    Japanese controller's anxiety level seemed quite high and he said expect
    "indefinite" holding time. No one would commit to a time frame on that so I got
    my copilot and relief pilot busy looking at divert stations and our fuel
    situation, which, after an ocean crossing is typically low.
    
    It wasn't long, maybe ten minutes, before the first pilots started requesting
    diversions to other airports. Air Canada, American, United, etc. all reporting
    minimal fuel situations. I still had enough fuel for 1.5 to 2.0 hours of
    holding. Needless to say, the diverts started complicating the situation.
    
    Japan air traffic control then announced Narita was closed indefinitely due to
    damage. Planes immediately started requesting arrivals into Haneada, near Tokyo,
    a half dozen JAL and western planes got clearance in that direction but then ATC
    announced Haenada had just closed. Uh oh! Now instead of just holding, we all
    had to start looking at more distant alternatives like Osaka, or Nagoya.
    
    One bad thing about a large airliner is that you can't just be-pop into any
    little airport. We generally need lots of runway. With more planes piling in
    from both east and west, all needing a place to land and several now fuel
    critical ATC was getting over-whelmed. In the scramble, and without waiting for
    my fuel to get critical, I got my flight a clearance to head for Nagoya, fuel
    situation still okay. So far so good. A few minutes into heading that way, I was
    "ordered" by ATC to reverse course. Nagoya was saturated with traffic and unable
    to handle more planes (read- airport full). Ditto for Osaka.
    
    With that statement, my situation went instantly from fuel okay, to fuel minimal
    considering we might have to divert a much farther distance. Multiply my
    situation by a dozen other aircraft all in the same boat, all making demands
    requests and threats to ATC for clearances somewhere. Air Canada and then
    someone else went to "emergency" fuel situation. Planes started to heading for
    air force bases. The nearest to Tokyo was Yokoda AFB. I threw my hat in the ring
    for that initially. The answer - Yokoda closed! no more space.
    
    By now it was a three ring circus in the cockpit, my copilot on the radios, me
    flying and making decisions and the relief copilot buried in the air charts
    trying to figure out where to go that was within range while data link messages
    were flying back and forth between us and company dispatch in Atlanta. I picked
    Misawa AFB at the north end of Honshu island. We could get there with minimal
    fuel remaining. ATC was happy to get rid of us so we cleared out of the
    maelstrom of the Tokyo region. We heard ATC try to send planes toward Sendai, a
    small regional airport on the coast which was later the one I think that got
    flooded by a tsunami.
    
    Atlanta dispatch then sent us a message asking if we could continue to Chitose
    airport on the Island of Hokkaido, north of Honshu. Other Delta planes were
    heading that way. More scrambling in the cockpit - check weather, check charts,
    check fuel, okay. We could still make it and not be going into a fuel critical
    situation ... if we had no other fuel delays. As we approached Misawa we got
    clearance to continue to Chitose. Critical decision thought process. Let's see -
    trying to help company - plane overflies perfectly good divert airport for one
    farther away...wonder how that will look in the safety report, if anything goes
    wrong.
    
    Suddenly ATC comes up and gives us a vector to a fix well short of Chitose and
    tells us to standby for holding instructions. Nightmare realized. Situation
    rapidly deteriorating. After initially holding near Tokyo, starting a divert to
    Nagoya, reversing course back to Tokyo then to re-diverting north toward Misawa,
    all that happy fuel reserve that I had was vaporizing fast. My subsequent
    conversation, paraphrased of course...., went something like this:
    
    "Sapparo Control - Delta XX requesting immediate clearance direct to Chitose,
    minimum fuel, unable hold."
    
    "Negative Ghost-Rider, the Pattern is full" <<< top gun quote <<<
    
    "Sapparo Control - make that - Delta XX declaring emergency, low fuel,
    proceeding direct Chitose"
    
    "Roger Delta XX, understood, you are cleared direct to Chitose, contact Chitose
    approach....etc...."
    
    Enough was enough, I had decided to preempt actually running critically low on
    fuel while in another indefinite holding pattern, especially after bypassing
    Misawa, and played my last ace...declaring an emergency. The problem with that
    is now I have a bit of company paperwork to do but what the heck.
    
    As it was - landed Chitose, safe, with at least 30 minutes of fuel remaining
    before reaching a "true" fuel emergency situation. That's always a good feeling,
    being safe. They taxied us off to some remote parking area where we shut down
    and watched a half dozen or more other airplanes come streaming in. In the end,
    Delta had two 747s, my 767 and another 767 and a 777 all on the ramp at Chitose.
    We saw to American airlines planes, a United and two Air Canada as well. Not to
    mention several extra Al Nippon and Japan Air Lines planes.
    
    Post-script - 9 hours later, Japan air lines finally got around to getting a
    boarding ladder to the plane where we were able to get off and clear customs. -
    that however, is another interesting story.
    
    By the way - while writing this - I have felt four additional tremors that shook
    the hotel slightly - all in 45 minutes.
    
    Cheers,
    
    J.D.
    
    
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