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    KAILASHWikileaks - Assange - Revolution now! + Anonymous + Bradley Manning a Snowden
    PIZI
    PIZI --- ---
    ANONYMOUS: Spolehlivy zdroj informaci o tom kolik ipecek utocilo na api.paypal.com? Spolehlivy zdroj informaci o tom, ze pripadne botnety, ktere se ucastnily jsou soucasti anon a tedy stoji i za tim dalsim vyvojem o kterem mluvila eclectica? Jako ze majitele botnetu jsou ti kdo organizuji ted to probirani depesi a jejich zverejnovani? Je totiz mozne ze se pripadne botnety ucastnily utoku jen tak a nejsou nejakou soucasti toho samotneho hnuti.
    ECLECTICA
    ECLECTICA --- ---
    ANONYMOUS: já jsem snad někde psala něco o organizátorech? Pokud chceš někomu předhazovat, že je neschopný, zameť si před vlastnim prahem.
    ANONYMOUS
    ANONYMOUS --- ---
    PIZI: Spis je to s nimi konzultovano, ne?
    PIZI: Ja nejsem jako nekteri mistni diskuteri, kteri jsou mentalne natolik vysoko, ze vi vsechno hned, presne a nejlip, ale staci sledovat utoky, LOIC by tezko slozil zmineny weby, proti kontretnim IPckum se da branit celkem efektivne, tam slo hlavne o hackly botnety, ktery to tam sypaly ve vetsi mire. Nebo mas pocit, ze takovy api.papal.com neprezije par set kompu který na nej chlej pozadavky? To musej mit naddimenzovany a odhaduju minimalne zdvojeny.
    PIZI
    PIZI --- ---
    ECLECTICA: "They are releasing the documents we selected," Le Monde's managing editor, Sylvie Kauffmann, said in an interview at the newspaper's Paris headquarters.

    WikiLeaks turned over all of the classified U.S. State Department cables it obtained to Le Monde, El Pais in Spain, The Guardian in Britain and Der Spiegel in Germany. The Guardian shared the material with The New York Times, and the five news organizations have been working together to plan the timing of their reports.

    They also have been advising WikiLeaks on which documents to release publicly and what redactions to make to those documents, Kauffmann and others involved in the arrangement said.

    "The cables we have release correspond to stories released by our main stream media partners and ourselves. They have been redacted by the journalists working on the stories, as these people must know the material well in order to write about it," WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange said in a question-and-answer session on The Guardian's website Friday. "The redactions are then reviewed by at least one other journalist or editor, and we review samples supplied by the other organisations to make sure the process is working."

    Each publication suggested a way to remove names and details considered too sensitive, and "I suppose WikiLeaks chooses the one it likes," El Pais Editor in Chief Javier Moreno said in a telephone interview from his Madrid office.

    As stories are published, WikiLeaks uses its website to release the related cables. For example, The Guardian published an article Thursday based on diplomatic cables discussing the assassination of former Russian security officer Alexander Litvinenko by radiation poisoning, and WikiLeaks quickly posted three cables on the same subject.

    The Associated Press: Respected media outlets collaborate with WikiLeaks
    http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5i0Vruimmvy8loGklsz34QyGDKMDA?docId=120c7bf5d3a34dbaadf1280dace2e456

    Takze tak nejak spolecne.
    PIZI
    PIZI --- ---
    ANONYMOUS: Tak ji pomoz, dodej zdroj ze ktereho muze ziskat spolehlivou informaci o tom, ze to nejsou jen decka.
    PIZI
    PIZI --- ---
    ECLECTICA: Jak jsem pochopil, tak jsou to naopak noviny kdo rozhoduje o tom co se vyda, ne wikileaks.
    HOBORG
    HOBORG --- ---
    ECLECTICA: takze ddos protest je spatne. cist depese a hledat zajimavy informace je spatne. co by bylo podle tebe dobre? sedet na prdeli a cekat co z toho vytahnou profesionalni novinari? cist si to sam primo je prece uplna blbost, novinari uz to vsechno precetli, takze nejlepsi bude hezky pasivne sedet a cekat na predzvejkany informace :)

    tak posli nejakej ten svuj clanek o wl
    ANONYMOUS
    ANONYMOUS --- ---
    ECLECTICA: Pokud cely to, co se ted oznacuje jako anonymous minimalizujes na skolou povinna decka tak mas samozrejme pravdu. A to je zaroven dalsi ukazka toho, ze jako novinarka ses neschopna.
    ECLECTICA
    ECLECTICA --- ---
    Kazdopadne dostavaji predem echo, ktere depese se zverejni priste.
    GABRIELL
    GABRIELL --- ---
    ECLECTICA: No, on i takovy Guardian prave ted "na prani" prochazi depese a hleda zajimava temata, je toho proste tolik, ze nepojali uplne vsechno :))
    PIZI
    PIZI --- ---
    ECLECTICA: Nikoliv deniky maji komplet balik. Takze nedostavaji varku predem.
    ECLECTICA
    ECLECTICA --- ---
    uz vidim, jak se skolou povinna decka probiraji depesemi. jsou psane velmi specifickym jazykem a nejsou ani za mak zazivne. navic, novou varku depesi dostavaji vybrane deniky predem a to, co je v nkch obsahove zajimave, ihned zverejni, cili dalsi naprosto zbytecna huraakce. PS: obcas mam pocit, ze touha menit svet je v neprime umere ke schopnosten a znalostem.
    LDS
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    PIZI
    PIZI --- ---
    STEPIK
    STEPIK --- ---
    STEPIK
    STEPIK --- ---
    Everyone at Le Web is Wrong: Wikileaks Should be Condemned not Celebrated
    http://techcrunch.com/2010/12/09/everyone-at-le-web-is-wrong-wikileaks-should-be-condemned-not-celebrated/
    STEPIK
    STEPIK --- ---
    _BENNY: lol;)
    _BENNY
    _BENNY --- ---
    STEPIK: Just because you don't agree with someone's political views isn't a good reason to launch a distributed denial-of-service attack against them.

    jenom protoze nesouhlasite s nejakym politickym nazorem neznamena, ze budete stavkovat.

    jaky je v tom rozdil?
    CISLO42
    CISLO42 --- ---
    STEPIK: asi ten rozkol, nebo nevim.
    STEPIK
    STEPIK --- ---
    Man jailed for DDoS attack against Bill O’Reilly, Ann Coulter and Rudy Giuliani | Naked Security
    http://nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2010/11/10/man-jailed-for-ddos-attack-against-bill-oreilly-ann-coulter-and-rudy-giuliani/
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