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    TOXICMANElon Musk
    PER2
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    KOUDY: takova nokia bude mit taky vzdycky svoje zakazniky
    PES
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    KOUDY: já bych řekl, že zásadní nebezpečí eAut je stejné jako u jakýchkoliv jiných softwarově vyšperkovaných e-krámů - pokud skončí podpora výrobce či dokonce skoční existence výrobce, s velkou pravděpodobností se změní v nefunkční kus šrotu, který servis prakticky nemá šanci nějak opravit (bohužel i u moderních spalováků nacpaných elektronikou hrozí něco podobného, starší "hloupé" spalováky přece jen šly udržet v provozu).

    Ale na tuhle zkušenost si svět bude muset bohužel tvrdě narazit :-/
    KOUDY
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    PALEONTOLOG: Vsak uz jsme to tu resili. Ne kazdej si kupuje to auto protoze miluje Elona. Jsou lidi, kteri chtej proste docela dobry elektricky auto :)..a kdyz se zeptas lidi kteri maji zkusenosti s teslou co rikaji na rozdil mezi treba teslou Y a mezi wagenem IDnejaky cislo nebo bmw i5 apod..tak ti vetsina rekne ze softwarove jsou ty nemecky auta deset let za teslou.

    PALEONTOLOG
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    KOUDY: no nejsem si jistej, jestli je potřeba recyklovat, že základna tesly měla přesně opačnej mindset než má musk teď, tedy s tím <3<3<3 tak úplně nevím. ukáže čas.
    KOUDY
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    Jinak aby tu v te zaplave hejtu nezapadlo :)..a dal jsem samozrejme pro Ivanka lajk :)

    KOUDY
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    PALEONTOLOG: Tesla je lovebrand kterej ma svoje "teslaovce" stejne jako je lovebrand apple a ma svoje "appleovce"...Prestoze Jobs byl egoistickej curak, kterej rval na lidi a vyhazoval je, kdyz se mu nelibilo jak mluvej na porade, tak mel miliony obdivovatelu a kazdej pod nim chtel pracovat. Musk je uplne stejnej pripad a na praci v Tesle nebo SpaceX se stojej fronty. Kdyz si jednou koupis Teslu, tak si pak vetsinou uz koupis dalsi, pripadne vyzkousis jinej elektromobil a zjistis, ze je to sracka a vratis se zas k Tesle..s Applem je to opet stejny. Automobilovej prumysl pujde i pres breceni Filipa Turka chca nechca cestou k elektromobilite. Az se vyresi dojezd, rychlost nabijeni a nabijeci sit, tak to bude pro 85% lidi ve vyspelejch zemich nobrainer a kdyz si spocitas kolik aut je treba v usa, evrope a asii, tak nejaky 2M aut rocne co Tesla vyrobi jsou totalni mravenci prd a klidne to muze bejt za deset let ctyrnasobek. Ted je tu plno automobilovejch znacek, ktery zaniknou, protoze ty elektricky auta od sebe vicemene nicim nerozlisis. Budou to spotrebni veci stejne jako dneska telefony, ktery taky vypadaj stejne a lisej se jen v detailech a operacnim systemu, takze vyhraje laska k brandu a znacce.
    PALEONTOLOG
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    KOUDY: chapu te, ale mam svy pochybnosti., ze to spravi zmena ceo, nebo ze fanboys soucasnyho muska zacnou obdivovat zeleny technologie. to mi neprijde realny.. a pak kvalitou imho neni tesla analogie applu...
    KOUDY
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    PALEONTOLOG: To zalezi na tom jestli si ve svete krome ciny kupovat cinska auta..Bude to stejne jako Apple vs Android. Tesla je automobilovej Apple a vzdycky bude mit svoje zakazniky. Az tu nebude Musk nebo az Musk nebude CEO, tak jich muze bejt paradoxne vic nez ted. Iphony se nejvic prodavaj za Cooka a Apple taky nejvic roste za Cooka..Coz neni egoistickej vizionar a novodobej jezis, ale jen homosexualni manazer :))
    PALEONTOLOG
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    PES: s akciemj se da manipulovat, treba pres kqcera donalda, nebo insidertradinfem, kazdopadne me zajima cisla prodejnosti za rok, dva. jestlipak nahodou nema tesla svuj zenit za sebou?
    PES
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    He-he-he...

    Dvě auta za cenu jednoho. Čína uštědřuje Muskově továrně tvrdou lekci - iDNES.cz
    https://www.idnes.cz/ekonomika/zahranicni/cina-usa-elektromobilita-tesla-elon-musk-konkurence-zakaznici-auta.A250313_152535_eko-zahranicni_jadv
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    PER2: ted by to chtelo vlajku USA, kde misto hvezdicek budou hakove krize
    PER2
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    proc sou nasebe lidi tak zli, esterko
    https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1900308382239936994

    PER2
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    KOUDY:
    Captain Mark Kelly ‪@captmarkkelly.bsky.social‬
    I bought a Tesla because it was fast like a rocket ship. But now every time I drive it, I feel like a rolling billboard for a man dismantling our government and hurting people. So Tesla, you’re fired!
    video:
    @captmarkkelly.bsky.social on Bluesky
    https://bsky.app/profile/captmarkkelly.bsky.social/post/3lkdxik5aw22e
    NUSPHIR
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    PES
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    Už i Muskova Tesla varuje Trumpovu vládu před obchodní válkou - Novinky
    https://www.novinky.cz/clanek/ekonomika-uz-i-muskova-tesla-varuje-trumpovu-vladu-pred-obchodni-valkou-40513115
    PER2
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    JONY
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    Government shutdown live updates: Senate votes on government funding bill today; Trump delivers remarks at DOJ
    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/trump-administration/live-blog/trump-administration-schumer-shutdown-doge-oz-medicaid-justice-rcna195483#rcrd74892

    U.S. Marshals sued for information on Elon Musk security deputizations and Jan. 6 cases

    Ryan J. Reilly

    Reporting from Washigton

    The U.S. Marshals Service was sued today by a group seeking information about the deputization of Elon Musk's private security detail and reports that a marshal visited the chambers of federal judges to ask about the release of Jan. 6 defendants pardoned by Trump on his first day in office.

    The suit, filed by Democracy Forward in federal court in Washington today, seeks records regarding reports that U.S. Marshals Service officials "had communicated inappropriately with federal judges regarding their actions on pending cases related to January 6th," that individuals "associated with the U.S. DOGE Service (“DOGE”) have repeatedly invoked threats to engage USMS when seeking questionable access to agency buildings and information," and that "DOGE leader Elon Musk’s private security guards have been deputized by USMS."

    Skye Perryman, the president and CEO of Democracy Forward, said that the Marshals Service "plays a critical role in enforcing court orders, which couldn’t be more important as the courts continue to serve as a bulwark against the Trump administration’s abuses of power."

    "The American people deserve for the USMS to fulfill its role protecting their interests, not for it to act as the personal security force in DOGE and Elon Musk’s campaign of government overreach," Perryman said.
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    JONY
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    https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/13/business/tesla-china-sales-elon-musk.html

    China Cools on Musk: ‘Two Cars for the Price of One Tesla’

    Elon Musk, the company’s chief executive, is fast losing out to Chinese electric carmakers in Tesla’s second-most-important market.

    Tesla is getting crushed in China, its most important market outside the United States and one that it had dominated for years.

    When Liu Jie, 32, decided to buy an electric car in October, Tesla was one of her top choices. But after test-driving a few Chinese cars, she went with a sports sedan from Xiaomi, a consumer gadget maker better known for its smartphones, kettles and robot vacuums.

    “Xiaomi is more fashionable,” Ms. Liu said last week in Beijing. “Tesla, for me, it’s a little bit normal. You can see the Tesla Model Y everywhere.”

    It’s not personal, buyers said. Tesla is still considered a top brand, and Elon Musk, Tesla’s chief executive, is admired in China. Beijing rolled out the red carpet when he broke ground on the company’s first overseas factory in Shanghai. Mr. Musk is credited with igniting China’s local electric vehicle industry.

    But now that market is a blood bath of competition from Chinese rivals. Chinese drivers that once flocked to Tesla are turning more and more to local brands that offer more efficient cars with better technology, sometimes at half the price.

    Tesla’s biggest rival, the electric car giant BYD, sold 481,318 cars in the first two months of this year, over three quarters more than it did over the same period last year. Tesla sold 60,480 vehicles in the first two months of the year, a drop of 14 percent from last year.

    Tesla’s sales in China are plunging as the carmaker faces criticism over Mr. Musk’s role as an aide to President Trump in charge of cutting federal spending. Tesla lost about a quarter of its value over the past month as investors shunned the stock.

    The threat that BYD poses Tesla in China has been building for years. BYD has sold around one million more cars each year for the past three years. The popularity of BYD has been driven in part by the fact that its cars are cheaper. It has helped that local governments sometimes steer business in the company’s direction.

    But a property crisis and a broadly slowing consumer economy have hit households and badly dented people’s appetite to shop, making it hard for all carmakers. Things have become so bad that the government began offering subsidies a year ago for consumers to trade in their old cars. The government increased the incentives last week. Domestic companies have benefited from the subsidies, but so has Tesla.

    Even amid the economic slowdown, there is still a market for luxury cars, for those who can afford them. Ms. Liu, who had a budget of around $41,000, said Tesla would have been an affordable luxury option compared with the $41,305 Xiaomi SU7 Max that she bought. And while Tesla offers a five-year zero-interest loan, Xiaomi does not offer any financing.

    Many Chinese drivers are also willing to pay more for advanced technology like self-driving, an area in which Tesla has lagged because the government has delayed the company’s introduction of similar or better technology.

    But Tesla faces another problem: demand. Sales are slowing for all cars in China.

    The policies aimed at replacing gas guzzlers with electric vehicles have helped. In cities like Shanghai and Beijing, car owners can trade in older cars for a new one and get a nearly $2,100 subsidy. In some Tesla dealerships, employees have created a wall with photos of the cars that buyers have traded in — they range from Porsches to Mercedeses and even the occasional Chinese car.

    But trading in an old car for a new one is usually a one-time thing.

    For many dealers, it is getting harder to sell any car. “It was OK two years ago, but now the market is saturated,” said Chen Jiaming, a salesperson at an FAW-Volkswagen dealership in Shanghai, a collaboration of the Volkswagen Group with the state-owned FAW Group.

    Mr. Chen works out of the “New Energy Vehicle Block,” in the basement of a mall near Shanghai’s Zhongshan Park that was converted from a food court three years ago when electric vehicles first took off in China.

    Some of the one dozen dealerships in the basement of the mall have already left, the lights inside were turned off on a recent weekday. A row of claw machines lit up another empty space. In order to keep the FAW-VW dealership from closing, the mall gave it seven months of free rent, Mr. Chen said.

    “I think Tesla’s competitiveness in China will only last for the next two or three years at most,” said Mr. Chen, who owns a BYD. Tesla’s driving technology is no longer cutting edge compared with local rivals, he added.

    After years of lobbying the government, Tesla was finally allowed to offer a version of its Autopilot technology to Chinese drivers last month. The feature is a step below the full self-driving feature that Tesla drivers in the United States can use. Drivers who want access to the necessary software update in China have to pay an additional $8,800.

    Younger buyers prefer Chinese brands, said Xia Lifang, an employee working at the nearby dealership for Arcfox, a Chinese electric carmaker. Tesla and BYD remain the most trusted brands in China, she said, but people born in the 1990s and 2000s are more open to trying new brands.

    “Our car looks better than Tesla,” Ms. Xia said with a smile.

    She added: “You could buy two of our cars for the price of one Tesla.”
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