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    TOXICMANElon Musk respektive jeho firmy SpaceX (Falcon / Heavy / Dragon / Starship), Tesla, Starlink, Neuralink, Boring, xAI
    Oběžník pana ředitele:
    Existuje tu klub [Twitter - rychloblogy] ... kdo chce každodenně debatovat o této síti, postovat třeskutě vtipná meme, doporučuju se přesunout tam, tady nechám fakt minimum.
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    QWWERTY
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    KOUDY: "Nebo treba svym zamestnancum ve skladech amazonu "
    samozrejme. ale to ze je Bezos exploitujici zmrd (a ofc nejenom on) nijak neospravedlnuje Muska
    proste jsou neplatici zmrdi vyhybajici se spolecenske zodpovednosti oba
    TOXICMAN
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    CROME: už jsem to tu psal několikrát, nezakládal jsem si auditko primárně o osobě EM, ale byl to spojující prvek těch firem, které mě zajímaly... před 10 lety navíc řešil uplně jiné věci a těžko jsem mohl vědět, že mu začne v určitých oblastech jebat ve velkém
    Ten začátek názvu klubu změnit nelze.

    Uplně nejlepší bude, když si založíte auditko "Proč je i dnes Elon Musk zmrd" a tam se dokola ujišťujte jaký je to debil a věděli jste to už od mala, co zas napsal a nelíbí se vám to, kdy zničí svět a jak se to vůbec všechno stalo, když vůbec nic neumí.

    Fandění např. misi SpaceX nebo Tesly != bezhlavé adorování Muska.
    Za spoustu věcí v poslední době by zasloužil nakopat do koulí.
    VYHULENY_UFO
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    CROME: i miliardar muze byt zmrd.
    SATAI
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    VAGABUND: vaše pravidelná připomínka, že Elon je Zmrd.
    DZODZO
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    JARDABEREZA: to je ten dosledok socialnych sieti, kazdy ma nazor a vacsinou dost vyhraneny, ale komentovanie stylom "to je zmrd" mi pride take bezobsazne a vyzera skor ako taka ventilacia nejakych osobnych frustracii a potvrdzovanie vlastnej moral high ground nez pokus o prispevok do diskusie, inymi slovami, nie kazdy prispevok je zaujimavy
    SATAI
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    Anketa bez otázky je jako... veverka bez ocásku. To by nešlo!

    48 hlasy od 38 respondentů

    SATAI
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    Idiot nebo zmrd?

    Diskutujme.

    (Ne, není to fake https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1734672142552174667 )

    YMLADRIS
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    Lidi, seriozne. V Gaze jsou špitály, sanitky, relief skupiny, bez mobilu a netu. Představte si třeba že se snažíte pomáhat na Moravě po tornádu a nemůžete komunikovat. Zbytečně umírají lidi. Musk chce pomoct. Opravdu převažuje ten váš bias, že je to zmrd a nemá to dělat, protože přece hamás? Přijde mi to už moc přes čáru
    SATAI
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    PES: zmrd
    KOUDY
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    YMLADRIS: To je fakt strasnej zmrd a arcidemon tyjo!!..Chce aby byli stastni vsichni bez ohledu na jejich viru a rad by pomohl i lidem v gaze kteri chteji mir..Za tenhle pravicovej nazor to tady v klubu od nekterych pekne schyta!!
    SATAI
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    PER2: zmrd
    AVATAR
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    DRAGON: tohle poukazuje na to, ze je to mstivej zmrd, co nevydejcha kritiku.

    Dalsi priklad treba nevybirava kritika ze strany ua, pote, co navrhoval, ze by meli dat putinovi co chce a jeho nasledna reakce.

    Bylo toho vic, ale uz je tech fuckupu kolem nej tolik, ze si bez googlu nevybavuju, treba me nekdo doplni :)

    Tyhle prestrelky, kdy navrhne "o nas bez nas" nakou mesiaskou sracku a dostane se mu adekvatni odpovedi, nejsou hodne zapamatovani :)
    YMLADRIS
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    E2E4: jo no ja se predevsim snazim chapat, jak funguje svet. Pokud v ankete vyjde ze drtiva vetsina lidi si nemysli, ze se riskuje jaderna valka, ma to vysvetlovaci potencial ohledne toho "jak si ten zmrd muze dovolit brzdit ukrajince"
    YMLADRIS
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    svodka udalosti ukrajina a starlink od Isaacsona

    1. faze horecne akce “We ask you to provide Ukraine with Starlink stations,”

    “Starlink kits are already allowing Ukraine Armed Forces to continue operating theater command centers,” she wrote on March 1. “These kits can be life or death, as the opponent is now focusing heavily on comms infrastructure. They are asking for more.”
    - 2000 terminalu skrz Polsko. Ale neni elektrina.
    “Let’s offer to ship some field solar+battery kits,” Musk replied. “They can have some Tesla Powerwalls or Megapacks too.”
    By March 6, the company was providing voice connections for a Ukrainian special operations brigade. Starlink kits were also used to connect the Ukrainian military to the U.S. Joint Special Operations Command and to get Ukrainian television broadcasts back up. Within days, 6,000 more terminals and dishes were shipped, and by July there were 15,000 Starlink terminals operating in Ukraine.

    2. nadseni na vsech stranach

    “Commanders have been impressed by the company’s ability, within days, to deliver thousands of backpack-sized satellite stations to the war-torn country and to keep them online despite increasingly sophisticated attacks from Russian hackers.” The Wall Street Journal also did a feature. “Without Starlink, we would have been losing the war,” one Ukrainian platoon commander told the paper.

    Starlink contributed about half of the cost of the dishes and services it provided. “How many have we donated so far?” Musk wrote to Dreyer on March 12. She replied, “2000 free Starlinks and monthly service. Also, 300 heavily discounted.” The company soon donated 1,600 additional terminals, and Musk estimated its total contribution to be around $80 million.

    Other funding came from government agencies, including those in the United States, Britain, Poland and the Czech Republic.

    Historik Fergusson udělal sbírku, pojdme vybrat 5M na dalších 5000. Three hours later, he got a reply from Marc Benioff, the billionaire co-founder of Salesforce. “I’m in for $1M,” he wrote. “Elon rocks.”

    3. Září. Ukrajina chce potopit ruskou flotilu na Krymu

    He had just spoken to the Russian ambassador to the United States. (In later conversations with a few other people, he seemed to imply that he had spoken directly to President Vladimir Putin, but to me he said his communications had gone through the ambassador.) The ambassador had explicitly told him that a Ukrainian attack on Crimea would lead to a nuclear response. Musk explained to me in great detail, the Russian laws and doctrines that decreed such a response.

    So he secretly told his engineers to turn off coverage within 100 kilometers of the Crimean coast.

    Fedorov: tajna info: mame podmořské drony, které dokážou zničit cokoliv. Musk: impresivní, ale tyvole do treti svetove nejdu.
    He discussed the situation with President Biden’s national security adviser, Jake Sullivan, and chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Gen. Mark A. Milley, explaining to them that he did not wish Starlink to be used for offensive purposes. He also called the Russian ambassador to assure him that Starlink was being used for defensive purposes only. “If the Ukrainian attacks had succeeded in sinking the Russian fleet, it would have been like a mini Pearl Harbor and led to a major escalation,” Musk says. “We did not want to be a part of that.”

    Muskův mírový plán, rage na twittru, Zelenskeho anketa, Muskova zuřivost (podporil jsem UA 80 milionama, rusku jsem dal 0. WTF?).

    4. Rijen - vypnuti starlinku v dalsich oblastech blizko ruska. Na twiitru opet silna odezva. Musk je nasrany a uz to dal nechce pro UA platit.

    Shotwell je nasrana ze spacex ma jine podminky: Other companies, including big and profitable defense contractors, were charging billions to supply weapons to Ukraine, so it seemed unfair that Starlink, which was not yet profitable, should do it for free.

    “We initially gave the Ukrainians free service for humanitarian and defense purposes, such as keeping up their hospitals and banking systems,” she says. “But then they started putting them on f---ing drones trying to blow up Russian ships. I’m happy to donate services for ambulances and hospitals and mothers. That’s what companies and people should do. But it’s wrong to pay for military drone strikes.”

    5. Shotwell dojednala s Pentagonem, ze bude Starlink platit. Plan leaknul na twitter, opet halo jaky je Musk zmrd ze chce penize. Ten se opet nasral a "“The hell with it,” he tweeted. “Even though Starlink is still losing money & other companies are getting billions of taxpayer $, we’ll just keep funding Ukraine govt for free.”

    6. Fedorov uklidnuje Muska

    Fedorov tried to smooth things over by sending Musk encrypted text messages lavishing him with thanks. “Not everyone understands your contribution to Ukraine. I am confident that without Starlinks, we would be unable to function successfully. Thanks again.”

    Musk: Russia will stop at nothing, nothing, to hold Crimea. This poses catastrophic risk to the world. . . . Seek peace while you have the upper hand. . . . Let’s discuss this. [Musk included his new private cell phone number.] I will support any pragmatic path to peace that serves the greater good for all of humanity.
    Fedorov: I understand. We look through the eyes of Ukrainians, and you from the position of a person who wants to save humanity. And not just wants, but does more than anybody else for this.

    7. aktualni pozice

    na zacatku 2023 100000 novych starlinku na UA, zvysene naklady plati americka vlada.
    SpaceX udelalo Starshiled jako sluzbu pro vojenske pouziti.

    "SpaceX licensed Starshield satellites and services to the U.S. military and other agencies, allowing the government to determine how they could and should be used in Ukraine and elsewhere."

    Coz chapu tak, ze ted to nebude vypinat a zapinat Musk, ale Biden.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2023/09/07/elon-musk-starlink-ukraine-russia-invasion/
    YMLADRIS
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    vidim tam tyto aspekty
    1. kdyby musk tehdy v prvnich dnech valky slusne UA odmitl, jako ze sorry nemuzu vam dat starlinky, chci byt neutralni, tak bychom o tom nejspis ani nevedeli, plus UA by asi hned prohrala valku (toto samozrejme nevim, ale komunikace je klicova vec). neni zmrd, hodne jim pomohl
    2. kdyby tehdy v prvnich dnech valky zapadni staty udelaly bezletovou zonu, jak UA porad dokola prosila vysvetlovala chtela, mohla se valka vyvijet uplne jinak. Ale ... neudelalo se to, protoze staty jednaji podle svych preferenci, obav do budoucna atd. Nejsou (nejsme) ale zmrdi, i tak jsme UA hodne pomohli
    3. klicove asi je, zda se priznava pravo mit nejaky hranice te pomoci (Musk nechce aby starlink se pouzival primo jako zbranovy system pro drony), anebo se to pravo nepriznava - protoze to ma nejaky soukromy nebo statni subjekt hozeny jinak nez nasinec (Svycarsko..), tak je zmrd
    AVATAR
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    Ja teda nechapu ty silny slovicka, jako je treba nenavist. Ze si o nekom myslim, ze je zmrd jeste neznamena, ze ho nenavidim, zejo...

    Starlink je obchodni zamer, kterej ma vydelat penize. Je smesny v tom hledat neco jinyho. Krym bude za priplatek, no. Mozna to budou usa satelity, ktery tam vynesou muskovy rakety. Proste win win.

    Moralnost je fajn, ale treba je pro nej vic nemoralni nedodat lidem slibeny auta a nevyhazovat lidi (nah), protoze se zastavi vyroba. Kazdopadne hrat na obe strany se vzdy vyplatilo nejvic. Post na x, jak strasne fandi ukrajine, ten nic nestoji.
    SATAI
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    SEJDA: A ze Zmrd siri ruskou propagandu a omlouva ho to... ze nema povinnost ji nesirit? Ze existuji i dalsi Zmrdi? Jako vazne?
    SATAI
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    E2E4: česky řečeno - problém je, že je to zmrd
    SATAI
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    PER2:

    Zmrd.
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