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    TUHOKlimaticka zmena / Thank you so much for ruining my day


    "Given the sheer enormity of climate change, it’s okay to be depressed, to grieve. But please, don’t stay there too long. Join me in pure, unadulterated, righteous anger."


    "I don’t want your hope. I don’t want you to be hopeful. I want you to panic. I want you to feel the fear I feel every day. And then I want you to act. Once you start to act, the hope is everywhere."

    "Our best scientists tell us insistently that a calamity is unfolding, that the life-support systems of the Earth are being damaged in ways that threaten our survival. Yet in the face of these facts we carry on as usual."

    “We’ve got to stop burning fossil fuels. So many aspects of life depend on fossil fuels, except for music and love and education and happiness. These things, which hardly use fossil fuels, are what we must focus on.”

    A nejde o to, že na to nemáme dostatečné technologie, ty by na řešení použít šly, ale chybí nám vůle a představivost je využít. Zůstáváme při zemi, přemýšlíme až moc rezervovaně. Technologický pokrok to sám o sobě nevyřeší. Problém jsme my, ne technologické nástroje.

    Rostouci hladiny oceanu, zmena atmosferickeho proudeni, zmeny v distribuci srazek a sucha. Zmeny karbonoveho, fosforoveho a dusikoveho cyklu, okyselovani oceanu. Jake jsou bezpecnostni rizika a jake potencialni klady dramatickych zmen fungovani zemskeho systemu?
    Ale take jak funguji masove dezinformacni kampane ropneho prumyslu a boj o verejne mineni na prahu noveho klimatickeho rezimu post-holocenu.
    rozbalit záhlaví
    XCHAOS
    XCHAOS --- ---
    GLOBETROTTER: tak mít přetopeno bylo prostě v té éře synonymum pro luxus, stejně jako v rozvojových zemích je byla znamením luxusu klimatizace :-) (boužel, dnes je to tam spíš podmínka přežití, protože ty teploty typu 50 nevím, jak jde bez klimatizace přežít... ve spoustě zemí zase musejí koukat k nám, jak můžou severské země přežít v zimě - asi jen díky topení, takže v zásadě se postupně rozšíří rozloha, kde člověk přežije jen díky svým technickým prostředkům, na téměř celou planetu... což samozřejmě má další negativní externality...)
    GLOBETROTTER
    GLOBETROTTER --- ---
    GLOBETROTTER:
    GLOBETROTTER:
    Bylo to na služebce, spali jsme v jedné místnosti týden. Každou noc jsme neustále na střídačku chodili kroutit ventilem topení :-)
    GLOBETROTTER
    GLOBETROTTER --- ---
    DZODZO: Ne, byl to Čech, odchovaný v paneláku. Tvrdil to v roce 2013, ano, je možné, že se od té doby uklidnil. Ale pamatuju se, jaké vedro měli moji v noci rodiče v ložnici, za komára.
    YMLADRIS
    YMLADRIS --- ---
    SHEFIK: zblazneni minim ze prestane fungovat zemedelsky cyklus, kdy ty rostliny jsou adaptovany na nejakou stabilitu teplot.
    DZODZO
    DZODZO --- ---
    GLOBETROTTER: tak ak je ten clovek niekde z Bangladese, tak 28 pre neho moze byt prijemny chladok, ja v tychto letnych horucavach moc nenaspim ked mame v loznici 28, potreboval by som tak 18 :)
    GLOBETROTTER
    GLOBETROTTER --- ---
    KEB: Byslel jsem v paneláku 1976-1986 a pak částečně 2011-2016. Ale znám třeba člověka, co tvrdí, že v ložnici má být 28. Co tam máš dál?
    SHEFIK
    SHEFIK --- ---
    YMLADRIS: porad to musi respektovat fyzikalni zakony. Kazdej chaos v kapaline/plynu se postupne stane proudenim, pripadne ustane / vyrusi se. Otazkou taky je, co pro tebe znamena zblazneni.

    Co se ale imho muze stat a je to videt na plynnejch planetach ve slunecni soustave jsou prudky zmeny, na ktery nebudeme zvykli/pripraveni a vyvolavajici napr. teplotni, srazkovy, vysusujici extremy, na ktery se treba ani nebude mozny pripravit, vzhledem k nepredvidatelnejm ('chaotickejm') lokacim, nebo intenzitou prekracujici nejaky ufinancovatelny moznosti mitigace.
    DZODZO
    DZODZO --- ---
    GLOBETROTTER: v panelaku sa da chodit doma v trenkach a tilku nebo bez aj ked netopis, my sme mali v bohunicich byt, kde v lete bolo na skapatie a v zime teplo aj ked som mal vyple radiatory, asi topili vsetci okolo nas
    KEB
    KEB --- ---
    GLOBETROTTER: cink! Mýtus o pretopenych panelácích v.1589 gratulujeme.

    No a teď trocha reality, v zateplenem paneláku za celou zimu pouštím topení tak 3x, když je teplá zima, tak teplo občas i větráme a každoročně mívám přeplatek v řádově tisících. A jelikož nemáme meraky, ale bere se to paušálem, tak to obdobné mají všichni. Bydlel jsi někdy v paneláku nebo si jen internetový odborník?
    GLOBETROTTER
    GLOBETROTTER --- ---
    WOODMAKER: IMHO v Česku plýtvá jen část lidí, kteří vyrostli za komára v panelácích a v zimě chodí doma v trenkách a tílku nebo bez. To je asi tak jediné české plýtvání, které jinde není obvyklé.
    YMLADRIS
    YMLADRIS --- ---
    SHEFIK: a neni to treba tak, ze jak ted sel ten obrazek roztrhanyho jet streamu, tak uz se to zblazni uplne, tj bude to nepredvidatelny? nemam pro to zadne odborne argumenty, jen koukam na ten obrazek, budu rada kdyz nekdo okomentuje

    SHEFIK
    SHEFIK --- ---
    YMLADRIS: trochu sem si ted pocet o La nina:

    ENSO Weather: The strange La Nina will endure into the Cold Season. But how will it impact the weather as we head for the seasonal pattern change? » Severe Weather Europe
    https://www.severe-weather.eu/long-range-2/enso-weather-la-nina-update-cold-season-influence-usa-europe-fa/

    - tlaci studenou frontu z oceanu
    - intenzita trva dyl nez obvykle (a vypada to, ze se mozna protahne do zimy/jara 2023)
    - nekolik anomalii studeny fronty na severni polokouli + nejchladnejsi za poslednich 32 let
    - na severu evropy kvuli tlakovy nizi naopak kumulace teplyho vzduchu
    - dopady na chladnejsi klima vetsinou 1-2 roky, pak nastoupi El nino (predpokladam, ze pristi roky nas El nino upece?)
    - prinasi sucha do casti, kde se kumuluje teplejsi vzduch / kam se La nina tlaci
    WOODMAKER
    WOODMAKER --- ---
    GLOBETROTTER: Americani jsou extremisti. Cesi plytvaji mnohem min. Ale maji se v cem zlepsovat.
    SHEFIK
    SHEFIK --- ---
    TADEAS:

    V roce 2021 se Blackrock zameril na klimaticky orientovany firmy

    BlackRock makes climate change central to investment strategy for 2021
    https://www.cnbc.com/2020/12/16/blackrock-makes-climate-change-central-to-investment-strategy-for-2021.html

    Nicmene letos lehce otocil, 'kvuli valce na ukrajine, energeticky krizi a alespon oficialne rika, ze bude investovat jen do klimatickejch firem, kde vidi vysledky'

    Blackrock to vote for fewer climate provisions in 2022 than 2021
    https://www.cnbc.com/2022/05/11/blackrock-to-vote-for-fewer-climate-provisions-in-2022-than-2021.html
    TADEAS
    TADEAS --- ---
    Just 10 Big Shareholders Hold Key To Controlling The Climate Crisis | IFLScience
    https://www.iflscience.com/just-10-big-shareholders-control-50-percent-of-fossil-fuel-reserves-64562

    2022 Ten financial actors can accelerate a transition away from fossil fuels
    https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S2210422422000636

    just 200 companies (known as the Carbon Underground 200 or CU200) own 98 percent of the potential emissions from the world's remaining oil, gas, and coal reserves – the vast majority of which must remain in the ground if we are to avert a full-blown climate catastrophe

    CU200 fossil fuel reserves have the potential to produce 674 gigatons of carbon emissions, more than enough to push global average temperatures beyond 1.5°C above pre-industrial levels.

    Within the CU200 group, just 10 shareholders own 49.5 percent of the potential emissions from the world's largest energy firms and have a gargantuan influence over the fossil fuel market.

    These actors included: Blackrock, Vanguard, the Government of India, State Street, the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, Dimensional Fund Advisors, Life insurance Corporation, Norges Bank, Fidelity Investments, and Capital Group. It's these actors, the researchers argue, who are key to solving the climate crisis and ending the era of fossil fuels.

    “Without them, we simply won't have what it takes to meet our emissions targets and avoid catastrophe."

    "If they're serious, capital markets can enable a low-carbon transition within the top coal, oil and gas reserve owners in the world," said Dordi. "Recent pledges to reduce carbon exposure in investment portfolios and engagement with the fossil fuel industry indicate we may already be moving in that direction."
    TADEAS
    TADEAS --- ---
    2021 Energy and Human Ambitions on a Finite Planet
    https://escholarship.org/uc/item/9js5291m#chapter.2

    Where is humanity going? How realistic is a future of fusion and space colonies? What constraints are imposed by physics, by resource availability, and by human psychology? Are default expectations grounded in reality?

    This textbook, written for a general-education audience, aims to address these questions without either the hype or the indifference typical of many books. The message throughout is that humanity faces a broad sweep of foundational problems as we inevitably transition away from fossil fuels and confront planetary limits in a host of unprecedented ways—a shift whose scale and probable rapidity offers little historical guidance.

    Salvaging a decent future requires keen awareness, quantitative assessment, deliberate preventive action, and—above all—recognition that prevailing assumptions about human identity and destiny have been cruelly misshapen by the profoundly unsustainable trajectory of the last 150 years. The goal is to shake off unfounded and unexamined expectations, while elucidating the relevant physics and encouraging greater facility in quantitative reasoning.

    After addressing limits to growth, population dynamics, uncooperative space environments, and the current fossil underpinnings of modern civilization, various sources of alternative energy are considered in detail— assessing how they stack up against each other, and which show the greatest potential. Following this is an exploration of systemic human impediments to effective and timely responses, capped by guidelines for individual adaptations resulting in reduced energy and material demands on the planet’s groaning capacity. Appendices provide refreshers on math and chemistry, as well as supplementary material of potential interest relating to cosmology, electric transportation, and an evolutionary perspective on humanity’s place in nature.
    TADEAS
    TADEAS --- ---
    Conscientious Protectors: A Story of Rebellion Against Extinction review – XR and the art of protest | Film | The Guardian
    https://www.theguardian.com/film/2022/jul/20/conscientious-protectors-a-story-of-rebellion-against-extinction-review-xr-and-the-art-of-protest

    Conscientious Protectors: A Story of Rebellion Against Extinction_Trailer
    https://vimeo.com/693634555?embedded=true&source=video_title&owner=16157419
    GLOBETROTTER
    GLOBETROTTER --- ---
    WOODMAKER: Tys asi nikdy nebyl v USA, že? Pak bys nemohl mluvit o Češich jako o plýtvačích vůči Američanům. Ano, ohledně topení jsou Češi třeba oproti Italům velcí plýtvači, ale spotřeba při klimatizování (jak doma, tak firmy/služby) je ve Státech enormní, stejně tak jako spotřeba PHM.
    SEJDA
    SEJDA --- ---
    TADEAS: ja jsem zase slysel, ze sef parku mohl rict, ze uz ohen dlouho nevidel, ale ze necekal, ze mu zase preleze pres plot
    XCHAOS
    XCHAOS --- ---
    The audacious PR plot that seeded doubt about climate change - BBC News
    https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-62225696
    TADEAS
    TADEAS --- ---
    TADEAS: seth itzkan vs george monbiot

    It's useful to see what Monbiot's argument is to see why he resists your evidence so emphatically. He appears up to date with soil science otherwise. Your central proposition is not disputed because he loves the rewilding idea for the reasons you're promoting managed herding. He has rejected fake meat in favour of protein brewed from the bacterial level which provides VERY CHEAP protein for mass production as a local brewery. In contrast grazing animals is expensive = elitist. He is so busy promoting this idea in competition to fake meat that he has no room for rival ideas.

    George Monbiot In Conversation With Rosie Boycott - Groundswell 2022
    https://youtube.com/watch?v=xDZtTwzcp5Q
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