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    TUHOKlimaticka zmena / Thank you so much for ruining my day


    "Given the sheer enormity of climate change, it’s okay to be depressed, to grieve. But please, don’t stay there too long. Join me in pure, unadulterated, righteous anger."


    "I don’t want your hope. I don’t want you to be hopeful. I want you to panic. I want you to feel the fear I feel every day. And then I want you to act. Once you start to act, the hope is everywhere."

    "Our best scientists tell us insistently that a calamity is unfolding, that the life-support systems of the Earth are being damaged in ways that threaten our survival. Yet in the face of these facts we carry on as usual."

    “We’ve got to stop burning fossil fuels. So many aspects of life depend on fossil fuels, except for music and love and education and happiness. These things, which hardly use fossil fuels, are what we must focus on.”

    A nejde o to, že na to nemáme dostatečné technologie, ty by na řešení použít šly, ale chybí nám vůle a představivost je využít. Zůstáváme při zemi, přemýšlíme až moc rezervovaně. Technologický pokrok to sám o sobě nevyřeší. Problém jsme my, ne technologické nástroje.

    Rostouci hladiny oceanu, zmena atmosferickeho proudeni, zmeny v distribuci srazek a sucha. Zmeny karbonoveho, fosforoveho a dusikoveho cyklu, okyselovani oceanu. Jake jsou bezpecnostni rizika a jake potencialni klady dramatickych zmen fungovani zemskeho systemu?
    Ale take jak funguji masove dezinformacni kampane ropneho prumyslu a boj o verejne mineni na prahu noveho klimatickeho rezimu post-holocenu.
    rozbalit záhlaví
    TADEAS
    TADEAS --- ---
    SHEFIK: jak nesmyslu?

    me na tom prijde nerealistickej ten prvek tridniho uvedomeni, jakoze 'delnik', alias praci a beznymi cinnostmi vytizenej clovek si po prace vezme hegela, marxe, patocku, vergilia v originale a bude studovat fakta o klimatu, nacez si zacne klast existencialni otazky a tim transformuje svou subjektivitu a vyvola revoluci :] ... on to tak nerika, ale vsadim se, ze to tak mysli :)

    'Všichni, kdo jsou v naší části světa znepokojení klimatickou krizí a chtějí přispět k jejímu řešení, by si měli odpovědět na otázku, na čí straně vlastně stojí a čí zájmy pro ně mají prioritu.'

    ... podle me je to proste soupereni marginalnich zajmovejch skupin, typu na smrt odhodlany klima aktivisti, environemntalisti, vs. elity fosilniho a jinyho kapitalu, atp... vsichni ostatni jsou takovy pesaci techle her a sporu
    SHEFIK
    SHEFIK --- ---
    Nejvetsi snuzka mlzicich nesmyslu. Teoreticka formulace moralnich idealu...Uplne nesmyslne napada generalizace jako pojdme hledat reseni misto viniku. To je uplne jak z manazerskyho manualu :D

    "Upalme vsechny carodejnice, ocisteme se od ty moralni luzy fosilu a pojdme spolu vybudovat novy svet, ktery alespon na mem papire bude vypadat lepsi" :D


    "Nerust je dobry pro vsechny, kteri jsou uz ted chudi. Nerust motivuje prichazet s novym resenim" :D uz chybi jen kolektivni vlastnictvi a 5ti letka.

    Tvl.
    YMLADRIS
    YMLADRIS --- ---
    SCHWEPZ: já zatím nechápu, jak by ten nerust fungoval. Ty tomu rozumíš? Vysvětlíš, prosím?
    SCHWEPZ
    SCHWEPZ --- ---
    Zamlčovaný fakt o klimatu: nelze je zachránit beze změny společenského systému
    https://denikreferendum.cz/clanek/34267-zamlcovany-fakt-oklimatu-nelze-jezachranit-beze-zmeny-spolecenskeho-systemu

    Řešení klimatické krize v kulisách trvajícího růstu a zachování korporátního způsobu vlády není myslitelné.
    Musíme si přiznat, že pokud nepřeformulujeme sám základ svého přístupu k bohatství a jeho globální distribuci, na Zemi nepřežijeme.
    TADEAS
    TADEAS --- ---
    Velcí kopytníci se mohou stát levnou prevencí proti požárům v národních parcích i vojenských újezdech | Česká krajina %
    https://www.ceska-krajina.cz/3208/velci-kopytnici-se-mohou-stat-levnou-prevenci-proti-pozarum-v-narodnich-parcich-i-vojenskych-ujezdech/
    ROGER_WILCO
    ROGER_WILCO --- ---
    Problematika rizika požárů ve světle změny klimatu, adaptací a aktuálního požáru u Hřenska
    od lidí kolem projektu PERUN (primárně ČHMU a VUV TGM)
    https://www.perun-klima.cz/downloads/pozar.pdf

    Problematika rizika požárů ve světle změny klimatu, adaptací a aktuálního požáru u Hřenska - Ekolist.cz
    https://ekolist.cz/cz/publicistika/priroda/problematika-rizika-pozaru-ve-svetle-zmeny-klimatu-adaptaci-a-aktualniho-pozaru-u-hrenska
    XCHAOS
    XCHAOS --- ---
    Some (Kinda) Good Climate News: 2 Degrees Is Doable | WIRED
    https://www.wired.com/story/some-kinda-good-climate-news-2-degrees-is-doable/
    SHEFIK
    SHEFIK --- ---
    PER2: to me nedoslo, ze zasedaj i v nedeli. Ale super, v kapitalisticke americe je to vic nez gesto :)
    PER2
    PER2 --- ---
    SHEFIK:
    The Senate on Sunday afternoon passed Democrats' sweeping health care, tax and climate bill
    The final, party-line vote was 51-50

    The nearly $370 billion clean energy and climate package is the largest climate investment in US history, and the biggest victory for the environmental movement since the landmark Clean Air Act. It also comes at a critical time; this summer has seen punishing heat waves and deadly floods across the country, which scientists say are both linked to a warming planet.
    The bill also contains many tax incentives meant to bring down the cost of electricity with more renewables, and spur more American consumers to switch to electricity to power their homes and vehicles.


    je to pekne gesto, ale je to malo a pozde :) kazdopadne lepsi nez dratem do oka
    SHEFIK
    SHEFIK --- ---
    Zejtra jde do senatu. Neni to sice predvolebne avizovany trilion, ale pry uz ma oporu i u drovejsich odpurcu

    Here's how the big US climate bill could turbocharge solar and wind
    https://electrek.co/2022/08/05/us-climate-solar-and-wind/

    The Act would nearly double investment in wind power and solar PV to $321 billion in 2030, versus $177 billion under current policy.

    Further, according to REPEAT, it could spur record-setting US wind and solar growth, with annual additions increasing from 15 gigawatts (GW) of wind and 10 GW of utility-scale solar PV in 2020 to an average of 39 GW per year of wind additions in 2025-26 – more than two times the 2020 pace – and 49 GW per year of solar – more than five times the 2020 pace – with solar growth rates increasing thereafter.

    Further, REPEAT reports that the IRA would lower annual US energy expenditures by at least 4% in 2030, a savings of nearly $50 billion dollars per year for households, businesses, and industry. That translates into hundreds of dollars in annual energy cost savings for US households.

    Tax credits, rebates, and federal investments in the IRA would shift costs from energy bills to the progressive federal tax base. For example, it provides a long-term extension for the US solar investment tax credit at 30% and $30 billion in production tax credits for clean energy and battery storage manufacturing.

    As for its impact on fossil fuels, the report notes:

    These savings do not include the additional downward pressure the Act will put on prices for oil and natural gas by driving lower consumption of these commodities, which will further reduce US energy costs.
    TADEAS
    TADEAS --- ---
    TADEAS:

    Rodger Savory
    https://www.facebook.com/709487926/posts/10158752738017927/

    Folks when you realize that just 37000 years ago there was so much food and so much life in New Mexico that elephants existed then you realize that the deserts of the SW USA really are MAN MADE, if we made the deserts 1 poor linear decision at a time we can regenerate the deserts back to lush landscapes 1 holistic regenerative decision at a time.
    TADEAS
    TADEAS --- ---
    New Mexico Mammoth Bones from 37,000 years ago “Upend” Clovis Theory | Ancient Origins
    https://www.ancient-origins.net/news-history-archaeology/new-mexico-mammoth-bones-0017087

    team of scientists led by researchers from the University of Texas have uncovered compelling evidence to prove human beings settled in North America much earlier than had once been believed. That evidence comes from the excavated bones of a mother mammoth and her calf that were apparently killed and butchered by indigenous Americans living in the lands of modern-day New Mexico approximately 37,000 years ago.

    The scientists extracted collagen from some of the bones, for the purposes of radiocarbon dating. These tests proved the mammoth mother and calf had lived somewhere between 36,250 and 38,900 years ago, putting them right in the middle of the Upper Paleolithic period . This extremely old date represents an enormous departure from traditional ideas about when the Americas might have been settled by the ancestors of the Native Americans.

    Some of the evidence of human alteration of the bones was obvious to the naked eye. But a lot of the most revealing data was collected through CT scans taken at the University of Texas High-Resolution X-ray Computed Tomography Facility. These precise examinations revealed microscopic fracture networks in the bones that were fully consistent with toolmaking and butchering activities, and not explainable by any natural force.

    Frontiers | Human Occupation of the North American Colorado Plateau ∼37,000 Years Ago
    https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fevo.2022.903795/full
    TADEAS
    TADEAS --- ---
    Low Rhine water level to hit output at two German coal plants | Reuters
    https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/low-rhine-water-level-hit-output-staudinger-5-coal-plant-2022-08-04/

    Germany last month agreed to reactivate its coal-fired power plants or extend their lifespans in response to its worst energy crisis in generations, triggered by dwindling supplies of Russian gas. read more

    But shallow river levels following a hot, dry summer mean that barges taking coal feed stock to generating plants can only sail with partial loads. Similar conditions caused a fall in output at power stations and hit profitability at chemical manufacturing plants in 2018.
    HRAFNAIN
    HRAFNAIN --- ---
    DZODZO: jo, jasny

    ja se jen zeptal
    DZODZO
    DZODZO --- ---
    HRAFNAIN: zdroje sa tu riesili pred nejakou dobou v diskusi, to je dovod mojej poznamky, pretoze som si na to spomenul, ozaj sa mi to nechce hladat znova, aby som dokazal pointu, ak ti to vadi, tak mozes napisat, ze si vymyslam a klamem, nebude mi to vadit, mozno je to len moj selektivny alzheimer, ale zjavne si to pamataju aj ostatni

    teraz tu mam jeden trochu offtopic link, ale iba na ilustraciu ako budu ludske tela reagovat na vysoku teplotu spojenu s vysokou vlhkostou, majstrovstva sveta v saunovani sa zrusit daju, ale globalne saunovanie len tak lusknutim prstov stopnut nepojde

    Tragický konec. Před 12 lety se konalo poslední mistrovství světa v saunování - Novinky.cz
    https://www.novinky.cz/muzi/clanek/tragicky-konec-pred-12-lety-se-konalo-posledni-mistrovstvi-sveta-v-saunovani-40404156
    PER2
    PER2 --- ---
    HRAFNAIN: co sem pletu arkticke oblasti? no jestli on tam nebude ten permafrost hele, jestli tady chces trolit, tak ti preju pekny den, mozna si bez radsi zabehat

    ohledne chlapce (kdyz uz mas zlamany prsty a neumis asi pouzit google)
    Anthrax outbreak triggered by climate change kills boy in Arctic Circle | Russia | The Guardian
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/aug/01/anthrax-outbreak-climate-change-arctic-circle-russia
    YMLADRIS
    YMLADRIS --- ---
    HRAFNAIN: nevim presne, oc ti jde. dzodzo napsal "mysteria v ledu". jestli jsou nejake nemoci ve svycarskych alpach, to nevim. s urcitosti se vi, ze jsou nemoci v permafrostu, protoze ta puda kdysi zmrzla nebyla, ted je, ale postupne zase nebude. odkaz https://www.google.com/search?q=sibir+anthrax
    DZODZO
    DZODZO --- ---
    HRAFNAIN: viz PER2 a permafrost, nemusi ist iba o virusy ale napr. aj zamrznute kapsy metanu/co2 ktore nam pridaju tepla do tej nasej zabacej polievky
    PER2
    PER2 --- ---
    HRAFNAIN: svycarsky alpy nejsou uplne obrovsky arkticky oblasti, navic antrax pro nas neni nic novyho, coz se o vecech v permafrostu treba rict neda, dokud se s tim nepotkame

    Permafrost dynamics and the risk of anthrax transmission: a modelling study | Scientific Reports
    https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-020-72440-6
    YMLADRIS
    YMLADRIS --- ---
    HRAFNAIN: myslela jsem v tom permafrostu na Sibiři
    HRAFNAIN
    HRAFNAIN --- ---
    YMLADRIS: promin, ale pred ctyrmi lety jsem tu informaci asi prehlidnul, nebo o ni nevedel.
    o švýcarských alpách vím jen to, že se tam pasou krávy. a anthrax se tam objevuje
    muzes uvest zdroj?
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