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    ‘Piss off’? ‘Annoy’? ‘Shit on’? Why Macron’s use of the French swear word ‘emmerder’ is so hard to translate
    https://theconversation.com/piss-off-annoy-shit-on-why-macrons-use-of-the-french-swear-word-emmerder-is-so-hard-to-translate-174627

    When French president Emmanuel Macron vowed to “emmerder” the unvaccinated in France, he did not just throw down the gauntlet on his Covid policies, he also sparked a fervent linguistic debate.

    The word emmerder is a verb derived from the noun merde, which in English literally translates to “shit”. But properly translating emmerder is far from straightforward, leaving the international media struggling to find the best equivalent. Did Macron want to “fuck” the unvaccinated? To “piss them off”? To “hassle” them? To “annoy” them?


    Official translation aids were of little use in this instance: parallel corpora, which can be a useful tool to see how a word or an expression is usually rendered in another language, are mostly made up of semi-official texts, where such a word would never appear. Even the corpus of translations from the European Parliament’s proceedings displays only one example of the verb, and it is translated as “annoy”, which is more often used as a translation of the much more polite irriter.

    Part of the difficulty comes from the derogatory nature of the remark. “Hassle” or “annoy” erase the more colourful dimension of this profanity, perhaps in line with different editorial standards of some English-language media.

    But losing the derogatory dimension of the verb means losing part of its meaning: translating meaning is not only a matter of factual accuracy, it is also a matter of speaker intention. To capture the expressive meaning of emmerder, we need to look not just at the word itself, but at the comprehensive speech act of Macron’s entire statement.

    So what does it really mean to use the sentence, “I would very much like to emmerder the unvaccinated”?

    Taking “shit” verbs seriously
    Emmerder literally means “to cover someone with shit”, but it has long since lost its original meaning. The meaning that has received most attention since Macron’s statement is an expressive variety of irriter, “to annoy”, with an additional note of contempt for the irritated person’s opposition to their predicament.

    But there are other uses, which are best understood if the French language’s vast trove of “shit” verbs is taken into consideration.

    The basic derogatory verb for pooing in French is chier. There is also a transitive version of this verb, which can be used to frame the person or the thing being covered with faeces as a direct object: conchier. Conchier also has another meaning: “to have extreme contempt or hatred for someone or something”.

    Read more: Pas de souci! The French war on saying ‘no worries’

    Today, people usually use a prepositional construction, “chier sur quelque chose” or “chier dessus” (both meaning “to shit on”). There is also what grammarians call a causative for chier: “to have someone shit, to make someone shit” is to faire chier. This is an approximate equivalent to emmerder: to annoy, to bother, to piss off.

    Both faire chier and emmerder also have a pronominal version, too: se faire chier or s’emmerder, both meaning “to be bored”. Note that their more formal equivalent is also a pronominal verb, s’ennuyer, whose non-pronominal variant, ennuyer, means nothing else than… “to annoy”.

    So, there is a system here: whether polite or profane, the reflexive of “to annoy” means “to get bored”. Correspondingly, chiant and emmerdant have become synonyms, meaning annoying, tedious and boring.

    A figurine of the poo emoji
    In France, to shit and to say ‘shit’ are two different things. Alexas_Fotos/Pixabay
    Considering all these different meanings and formulations, “being a pain in the ass for someone” may actually seem a convenient proposal for Macron’s use of emmerder. But most speakers of both languages would probably argue that something is lost here.

    I want to claim that what is lost has much to do with the major difference between emmerder and the chier-family: the fact that the former can no longer be used to refer to any concrete situation involving faeces.

    First-person swearing
    The key to understand this is the special relationship between emmerder and the first-person subject (je in French, I in English). I argue that this specific factor is what caused Macron’s statement to upset many people, as he used the first person: “Les non-vaccinés, j’ai très envie de les emmerder.”

    “J’emmerde les non-vaccinés” would actually mean something between “I don’t give a shit about these people” and “they can kiss my ass”. Similarly, “Je t’emmerde” means “Get off, to hell with you”.

    One of the ways to perform this kind of rebuke in French would be to simply utter the slur “Merde!”, not as an interjection expressing surprise, disapproval or rage, but as a demonstration of opposition to the person speaking to you. “Je vous dis merde!” (“I say ‘shit’ to you!”) also carries that meaning.

    Remember that unlike the verbs from the kinship of chier, emmerder can no longer be used to designate anything to do with actual faeces. It is thus highly plausible that nowadays, the merde in emmerder does not refer to excrement, but to the slur itself: emmerder does not mean “cover someone with shit”, but “to say ‘shit’ to someone”.

    This is what many linguists would call a delocutive or delocutionary verb (like “to welcome” in English).

    In the first person, “saying ‘shit!’ to someone” does not mean “addressing the word ‘shit’ at someone”. It means, somewhat redundantly, “doing what you do when you say ‘shit’ to someone”, namely: annoying them, or pissing them off. As philosopher Ludwig Wittgenstein would say, the actual meaning of that phrase can be found in the goal of the “language game” of uttering it at all.

    In a nutshell: emmerder has lost its original meaning; it now always means “to annoy” with the additional component of profanity associated with the utterance of merde. In the first person, it is synonymous with “say merde”; and “saying merde” is a conventionalised speech act whose meaning is to annoy the addressee.

    So, why not assume that emmerder always means “doing what you do when you say ‘merde!’ or ‘je t’emmerde!’ to someone”, even when you do it by other means than by uttering that word?

    The implication would be that there has been meaning change of “saying merde” and emmerder, from the utterance of a word to the act which can be fulfilled, among other means, by uttering that word.

    Performative profanity
    This kind of change is not unique, it is characteristic for “performatives”. Performative verbs are verbs of speech used in the first person in frozen constructions and contexts, by someone who has the ability to fulfil this action by speaking it. For example, the president of a commission who opens hearings merely by saying something like, “I declare open the second day of hearings”.

    Anything said by the president of France is definitively invested with this performative capacity. Consider Macron’s full statement: “I very much want to emmerder the non-vaccinated, so we’re going to go on like that right until the end.”

    The second half is a clear demonstration of the effectiveness of the president’s first-person speech in the real world.

    A man with a sign in French on his back
    I say shit to you! NeydtStock/Shutterstock
    But of course, the president did not say “j’emmerde les non-vaccinés” (“I emmerde the unvaccinated”), but “j’ai très envie de les emmerder” (“I very much want to emmerde the unvaccinated”).

    So what about this “avoir envie de” or “want to”? The presence of this auxiliary is enough to make the performative interpretation less strong, but it doesn’t erase it, especially in the context of a holder of legislative power speaking in the first person.

    The ambiguity of the utterance and the difficulty in translating it arise from this in-between-state: Macron has not accomplished the performative act; he has just commented on his willingness to do so and on the fact that the desired result will come true.

    Emmerder: a comprehensive view
    If this view is correct, the problem with the translations proposed for “emmerder” is due to the fact that they focus on the effect of the designated action on the subjects (in this case, the unvaccinated) instead of insisting on the very specific agency carried by this verb, especially in the context of the first person and when the speaker enjoys a peculiar performative linguistic power.

    Defending this unified view of the meaning of emmerder as “to annoy someone like you do it when you say ‘merde!’ or ‘je t’emmerde!’ to them”, we can assume that each context feature enriches or specifies the basic meaning of the verb. Each of the proposed translations thus captures a facet of meaning.

    In this case, we are faced with a very special speaker and with a grammatical construction discreetly referring to the performative component of emmerder. Here, focusing on the word itself instead of considering the whole utterance leads us to miss an important feature of Macron’s statement: he not only wants to have the unvaccinated eat shit, he also wants to tell them to do so and go to hell, in his capacity as head of state.

    Everything here is linked to the choice of a deliberately transgressive word by a very powerful person – the breaking of ordinary language rules by a head of state is already a signal that a demonstration of strength is underway.

    What makes this statement remarkable from the point of view of language is that, as a speech act, it forms a highly consistent whole. All of the loose meaning features associated with the use of emmerder are tightly linked with and support one another: hassling, swearing and the capacity to enforce are shown to be one and the same thing. Some would call this power.
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    BBC NEWS | Europe | KLM accused of helping Nazis flee
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6635677.stm


    Last Updated: Tuesday, 8 May 2007, 15:28 GMT 16:28 UK

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    KLM accused of helping Nazis flee
    Adolf Eichmann
    Many Nazis were given refuge in Argentina, including Adolf Eichmann
    The Dutch airline KLM is facing calls for an inquiry into reports that it helped Nazi war criminals escape to Argentina after World War II.
    According to papers found by Dutch journalists, KLM asked Switzerland to let Germans cross its borders and fly to South America without proper papers.

    Suspected war criminals were forbidden from leaving Germany by the Allies.

    KLM acknowledges some of its passengers may have been fleeing justice, but denies it sought to help them escape.
    A spokesman for the airline, Bart Koster, told the BBC that it was not responsible for carrying out background checks on passengers who had been allowed to leave by the Allies.

    Dutch MPs, historians and Jewish groups have demanded an independent investigation into the reports first aired last week, particularly because a member of the Dutch royal family may have been involved.

    Prince Bernhard, the father of Queen Beatrix, was the director of KLM at the time.

    Mr Koster said KLM did not want to run away from the allegations and was willing to co-operate with any inquiry.

    "We would welcome everything which could help clarify what may have happened," he said.

    Royal controversy

    According to documents found in Switzerland by Dutch TV documentary-makers, a local representative for KLM, Mr Frick, asked the Swiss border police in 1948 to allow his airline's passengers from Germany to enter the country without the proper papers so they could fly to Argentina.


    KLM plane
    We would welcome everything which could help clarify what may have happened
    KLM spokesman
    Sander Rietveld from the Netwerk programme said that although the memo from the border police about Mr Frick's visit showed his request had been refused, many Germans were allowed to enter Switzerland without permission.

    "The point is that it shows KLM actively approached the Swiss police," he told The Times.

    Marc Dierikx, an aviation historian at the Institute for Netherlands History, said other documents showed that many Germans had paid large sums of money to leave the country and that KLM was "intensively involved".

    Mr Koster said KLM had no record of a former employee called Mr Frick in its archives, nor evidence that its board had known anything about the allegations.

    "We have no information whatsoever that our board was actively involved," he said.

    "However, it cannot be excluded that KLM representatives were not involved at a local level."

    Experts say more research is needed in Europe and Argentina, because no passenger lists for KLM flights have been kept.

    Argentina was notorious for welcoming war criminals into the country when President Juan Peron was in power between 1945 and 1955.

    More than 150 Nazis were given refuge - among them Adolf Eichmann, who is considered to have been the chief architect of the Holocaust.
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    OMNIHASH:

    Coronavirus: Tests 'could be picking up dead virus' - BBC News
    https://www.bbc.com/news/health-54000629



    The main test used to diagnose coronavirus is so sensitive it could be picking up fragments of dead virus from old infections, scientists say.

    Most people are infectious only for about a week, but could test positive weeks afterwards.

    Researchers say this could be leading to an over-estimate of the current scale of the pandemic.

    But some experts say it is uncertain how a reliable test can be produced that doesn't risk missing cases.

    Prof Carl Heneghan, one of the study's authors, said instead of giving a "yes/no" result based on whether any virus is detected, tests should have a cut-off point so that very small amounts of virus do not trigger a positive result.

    He believes the detection of traces of old virus could partly explain why the number of cases is rising while hospital admissions remain stable.


    The University of Oxford's Centre for Evidence-Based Medicine reviewed the evidence from 25 studies where virus specimens from positive tests were put in a petri dish to see whether they would grow.

    This method of "viral culturing" can indicate whether the positive test has picked up active virus which can reproduce and spread, or just dead virus fragments which won't grow in the lab, or in a person.

    This is a problem we have known about since the start - and once again illustrates why data on Covid is far from perfect.

    But what difference does it make? When the virus first emerged probably very little, but the longer the pandemic goes on the bigger the effect.

    The flurry of information about testing and the R number creates confusion.

    But however we cut it, the fact remains there are very low levels of infection in the UK overall, lower than a number of other European countries.

    Where there are local outbreaks the system - by and large - seems to be having success in curbing them.

    And this comes after the opening up of society over the summer.

    Of course, the big question is what happens next, with schools back and winter around the corner.

    There is a growing sense within the public health community that the UK is in a strong position - and certainly a return to the high levels of infection seen in the spring should be avoided.

    But there is also extreme caution and an understandable desire for complacency not to creep in.

    How is Covid diagnosed?
    The PCR swab test - the standard diagnostic method - uses chemicals to amplify the virus's genetic material so that it can be studied.

    Your test sample has to go through a number of "cycles" in the lab before enough virus is recovered.

    Just how many can indicate how much of the virus is there - whether it's tiny fragments or lots of whole virus.

    This in turn appears to be linked to how likely the virus is to be infectious - tests that have to go through more cycles are less likely to reproduce when cultured in the lab.

    False positive risk
    But when you take a coronavirus test, you get a "yes" or "no" answer. There is no indication of how much virus was in the sample, or how likely it is to be an active infection.

    A person shedding a large amount of active virus, and a person with leftover fragments from an infection that's already been cleared, would receive the same - positive - test result.

    But Prof Heneghan, the academic who spotted a quirk in how deaths were being recorded, which led Public Health England to reform its system, says evidence suggests coronavirus "infectivity appears to decline after about a week".

    He added that while it would not be possible to check every test to see whether there was active virus, the likelihood of false positive results could be reduced if scientists could work out where the cut-off point should be.

    This could prevent people being given a positive result based on an old infection.

    And Prof Heneghan said that would stop people quarantining or being contact-traced unnecessarily, and give a better understanding of the current scale of the pandemic.

    Public Health England agreed viral cultures were a useful way of assessing the results of coronavirus tests and said it had recently undertaken analysis along these lines.

    It said it was working with labs to reduce the risk of false positives, including looking at where the "cycle threshold", or cut-off point, should be set.

    But it said there were many different test kits in use, with different thresholds and ways of being read, which made providing a range of cut-off points difficult.

    But Prof Ben Neuman, at the University of Reading, said culturing virus from a patient sample was "not trivial".

    "This review runs the risk of falsely correlating the difficulty of culturing Sars-CoV-2 from a patient sample, with likelihood that it will spread," he said.

    Prof Francesco Venturelli, an epidemiologist in the Italian region of Emilia-Romagna, which was hit hard by the virus in March, said there was "not enough certainty" about how long virus remains infectious during the recovering period.

    Some studies based on viral cultures reported about 10% of patients still had viable virus after eight days, he said.

    In Italy, which had its peak earlier than the UK, "for several weeks we were over-estimating cases" because of people who acquired the infection several weeks before they were identified as positive.

    But, as you move away from the peak, this phenomenon diminishes.

    Prof Peter Openshaw at Imperial College London said PCR was a highly sensitive "method of detecting residual viral genetic material".

    "This is not evidence of infectivity," he said. But the clinical consensus was that patients were "very unlikely to be infectious beyond day 10 of disease".



    Pro predstavu... 38, 40 cyklu dokaze z jedne jedine castecky genetickeho materialu (tedy ani nen nutne viru ale jeho mrtveho fragmentu) udelat ohromna mnozstvi (10^40) ... pritom tam byla jen 1 castecka. To vysvetli, proc by ten dotycny mel mit problem, ze mu nekde z hlubin nosu vystourali jednu castecku, co tam visi... bordelu vselijakeho budeme mit v tele beztakze mraky.

    Ostatne sam vynalezce PCR testu rikal, ze je prave proto nesmysl pouzivat na diagnostiku samotne PCR testy jako takove. Uz si pripadam jak zasekla deska, ale treba na to zacne po case nekdo reagovat. Ty pry mohou byt pouze jako pomocny nastroj, pokud je nekdo nemocnej, tak pozitivni test muze nam indikovat urcitou pravdepodobnost, ze jde o dany virus . Spolu s dalsimi informacemi. Tohle co se deje ted 2 roky s temi testy.. asi jednou se bude v historii brat jako jedno z nejvetsi selhani vedy a mediciny jako takove. Aspon teda z toho, co rikaji nekteri odbornici.. jako treba dr. Zelena , ze je tohle antipattern k tomu, co se vyucuje na zdravotni skole. Nejen co do PCR testu, ale obecne jen na zaklade nejakeho testu neco automaticky vyvozovat.. a seriove testovat takhle lidi bez individualniho pouzeni kazdeho pacienta.
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    GORG: jestli ti těle zůstávají mrtvý viry i rok po tom, co pošly, tak máš podstatně větší problém než COVID. Nepleteš si to s protilátkama?

    Mělo by, aspoň v době kdy jsem to řešil to tak bylo, ale jak to probíhá reálně netuším, do tyhle fáze jsem se ještě nedostal a situace se mění každou sudou hodinu.
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    OMNIHASH: nejde o dny ale i o týdny, měsíce nebo i rok

    po pozitivním PCR testu se chodí na další test?
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    GORG: nemám předplatný, nic si nepřečtu, ale že ti PCR test ukáže pozitivní výsledek i pár dní po prodělaný nákaze, když už si zdravej, rozhodně nijak utajovaná informace nebyla, a dostala se i k nám fašistům a afaik s ní i česká medicína pracuje, proto tě při pozitivním PCR testu pošlou na přesnější molekulární/antigenní, aby vyloučili podobný případy a falešný výsledky testu.
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    Your Coronavirus Test Is Positive. Maybe It Shouldn’t Be. - The New York Times
    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/29/health/coronavirus-testing.html

    Tests with thresholds so high may detect not just live virus but also genetic fragments, leftovers from infection that pose no particular risk — akin to finding a hair in a room long after a person has left, Dr. Mina said.

    Já se nebudu tvářit, že rozumím detailům pcr testů nebo biologie, ale tohle prostě jsou námitky celé řady odborníků, které cituju, protože myšlenka zapadla. A přitom je to tak podstatné. Minimálně bychom měli vidět v TV a jinde polemiky odborníků proč to je nebo není správně používat testy s cykly 38 až 45.

    tenhle článek se například snaží věc stočit na blbečky na sociálních sítí, kteří šíří dezinformaci, že je počet cyklů nějak důležitý

    The COVID-19 PCR Test Is Reliable Despite the Commotion About Ct Values | Office for Science and Society - McGill University
    https://www.mcgill.ca/oss/article/covid-19-critical-thinking/covid-19-pcr-test-reliable-despite-commotion-about-ct-values


    OMNIHASH: já jen zprostředkovávám, co říkají odborníci.. samozřejmě můžeš se snažit mě zesměšňovat, jak chceš.. věcné to rozhodně nebude..
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    GORG: pár částeček mrtvýho čeho a jak se ti to dostalo do těla? Další řádky mi nedávaj žádnej smysl, akorát podotknu, že i 38*0 je pořád nula.
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    OMNIHASH: Ten fragment může být klidně pár částeček něčeho mrtvého.. To se řeší už od toho března 2020 a stále na tom někteří trvají.
    Další podstatnou věcí je kolik těch fragmentů tam vlastně je, aby to vůbec bylo relevantní. Při cyklech nad 38 je ta multiplikace tak ohromná, že je výsledek už úplně k ničemu.
    Říkám si proč asi v médiích o cyklech skoro nikdy nemluví.

    Já nic o ovcích nepsal.. já mluvím o fašistech, to je horší :)
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    GORG: ano, určitý genetický fragment vzorku viru. Jak se tam teda dostal, pokud nejsem nakaženej? Už dva roky se z tebe snažím vypálit tenhle error v kauzalitě, ale dostávám jen kázání o ovcích a Orvellovi.
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    OMNIHASH: To je právě ten nesmysl. Pozitivní test neznamená aktivitu viru uvnitř toho těla.
    Po 2 letech stále řadou lidi ignorováno.
    Neznamená to ani infekčnost.

    Fskutečnosti to znamená, že byl nalezen určitý genetický fragment v tom vzorku. Nic víc. Označit takového člověka za nemocného či infekčního je pavěda. Aj samozřejmě Orwell.
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    GORG: tím chceš říct, že si po dvou letech vedení nyxí anticovid odbojový buňky teprv dneska otevřel wiki a zjistil, co ta nemoc obnáší? Ano, chytit COVID znamená mít v těle nenulovej počet jeho virů nehledě na to, jak se projevujou, znamená to, že už přestaneš haluzit s tou teorií že lidi co se pozitivně otestujou ho jakoby nemaj?
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    hmm když se podívám na definici na Wiki, tak tam skutečně považují za onemocnění to, že člověku nic není. Že vlastně nemoc spočívá v tom, že jakoby mu nic není, ale nějakým způsobem víme, že má COVID.

    Covid-19 – Wikipedie
    https://cs.wikipedia.org/wiki/Covid-19

    Příznaky nemoci covid-19 jsou různé, od bezpříznakového stavu až po závažné onemocnění, ale často zahrnují horečku, kašel, únavu, dýchací potíže a ztrátu čichu a chuti. Příznaky začínají jeden až čtrnáct dní po vystavení viru. U přibližně jednoho z pěti infikovaných jedinců se neobjeví žádné příznaky.[3
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    RIVA: Melidně bude šedesát, tak má na špatnej fotoshop nárok, jinak vypadá takhle (a gentleman vzhled dámy po pětadvaceti zásadně nekomentuje):





    RIVA: a tohle už je zase z říše totálních haluzí, že vás to baví furt skákat na podobný zjevný lži, 90% potratů, kluci jste na internetech a hrajete si na ty co prozřeli za oponu, ověřovat takový bludy musíte umět i vy:

    Covid-19 Vaccination during Pregnancy and First-Trimester Miscarriage
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8552533/
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    Milan Kubek: Zbytečný hazard. Covid pasy se ruší předčasně - CNN Prima NEWS
    https://cnn.iprima.cz/zbytecny-hazard-covid-pasy-se-rusi-predcasne-konec-epidemie-jeste-neni-rozcilil-se-kubek-57101

    M. Kubek "Máme nemocných 350 až 400 tisíc lidí. To jsou hrozná čísla.."

    Zároveň upozornil, že 40 procent všech diagnostických testů je stále pozitivních a v Česku je 7 700 nemocných zdravotníků. Za poslední týden jich onemocnělo 5 400.

    Vrtalo mi hlavou, jestli opravdu nadále masmédia a lidé jako Kubek zaměňují pozitivní test za to být "nemocný".

    Mluvil o "7700 nemocných zdravotníků" a 350 až 400 tisíc nemocných lidí v současnosti.

    Při pohledu na https://onemocneni-aktualne.mzcr.cz/covid-19

    Při pohledu na graf "Celkového počtu s aktuální probíhajícím onemocněním COVID-19 (aktivní případy)"

    Tyjo oni to mají tak i na stránkách ministerstva. Pokud tímhle skutečně myslí to, že má ten člověk pozitivní test, tak je to fakt institucionální demence.

    2 roky sae lidi snaží přimět odborníky , tyhle seriozní bohy, že pozitivní test

    a) neznamená infekčnost
    b) neznamená onemocnění


    Tohle je fakt čistý Orwell newspeak, kdy nejenže odborníci ale i lidi přijali terminologii, že test, který nelze použít na diagnostiku, ani indikaci, jestli je vůbec někdo infekční, se ten člověk nazývá "nemocný".

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    Tohle má samozřejmě významené dopady pro lidi, kteří se snaží ještě trochu nějak se držet reality.

    Protože pokud někdo řekne, že je 8000 tisíc zdravotníků nemocných, tak si člověk představí, že skutečně marodí s tou nemocí. Ne že jim někde vyšel nějaký test a vlastně jim nic není.

    Pak by naopak byla zajímavá informace, kolik z nich je skutečně nemocných. Naopak takovou informaci nemáme a nelze snadno ani nikde dohledat. Obzvlášť když už se nerespektuje normální význam slov.

    Hlavně tohle strašně mate. Jednou se mluví o "případech" jindy se tomu říká "nemocný". Jak se pak vůbec dá vyznat, co se vlastně děje ??

    Podobně jako "neočkovaný" = "nemá 3 dávky vakcíny"

    Ono to samozřejmě vyzní strašidelnějc, když se mluví o nemocných, protože to implikuje, že skutečně bojují nějakým způsobem o zdraví.

    Imho celý covidismus je o lepení jednoho nesmyslu na driuhý .
    Začalo to nesmyslnými testy, které nelze použít na diagnostiku
    Pak se ty lidi označují za nemocné.
    Podobně nemocnice, co vždycky byly přeplněné, jsou náhle indikátorem, že v celé zemi jsou přeplněné nemocnice.
    Atd.
    A panika je na streše. A působí to věrohodně. Vždyť je tolik nemocných!.. Nemocnice plné a zdravotníci padají na hubu a postupně i odpadávají, jak kosí COVID.

    Kde jsou fact checkeři, když je člověk ptořebuje?

    (btw to číslo podle toho grafu není 350 až 400 tisíc lidí ale 300 až 350 tisíc lidí, ale budiž.. ale zjevně se tím tedy myslí počet pozitivních testů, protože logically předpokládám, že počet nemocných nebude větší než počet lidi s pozitivním testem)

    Samozřejmě správně kovaný covidista namítne "No jo ale ten člověk sice nemá třeba příznaky, ale se mu tiše buduj trvalé následky, o kterých ještě neví". a proto by každý pozitivní test měl být vnímán jako být nemocný.
    Njn, ale to by nejdřív někdo musel prokázat.

    To by znamenalo, že lidi co s covidem přišli jakkoliv do styku mají potenciálně dlouhodobě poškozené zdraví (neprokázano), jak se i různí Kubekové snažili strašit. Tam by dávalo smysl se aspoň pokusit zabránit tomu, aby se s tím setkalo víc lidí, což je ale zjevně nemožné, a cena za tu snahu je ohromná.

    RANT OFF

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    How COVID Shots Suppress Your Immune System
    https://www.theepochtimes.com/how-covid-shots-suppress-your-immune-system_4261662.html

    Why Autoimmune Problems May Arise Post-Jab

    The antibodies produced by the jab also have several short peptide sequences in them that have previously been found in several human cells that are related to autoimmune disease

    Neurological Problems in Women

    The shots are also tightly associated with neurological problems such as uncontrollable tremors and shaking. Curiously, this side effect disproportionally affects women. The mechanism here again involves the exosomes.

    We May Soon See an Explosion of Parkinson’s Cases

    Disturbingly, loss of smell and dysphagia, the inability to swallow, are both signs of Parkinson’s disease, and both of these conditions are being reported post-jab by the thousands. So, in years to come, we could be looking at an explosion of Parkinson’s.

    Health Problems We Can Expect to See More Of

    In time, Seneff predicts we’ll see a dramatic increase in infections and cancers of all types, autoimmune diseases, neurodegenerative diseases and reproductive issues. As mentioned, research has demonstrated that the spike protein accumulates in the spleen and women’s ovaries.

    Without doubt, inflammation in the ovaries is not a good thing. Men also report swollen testes, and that could be indicative of inflammation as well. Preliminary data show women who get the jab within the first 20 weeks of pregnancy have a miscarriage rate of 82% to 91%. There are also VAERS reports describing fetal damage. Of course, it could also impair future fertility."
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    Melinda má zdáse víc testosteronu jak Bill? Ona fakt chlap, žejo...?

    ItsABloke
    RAGAMUFF
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    "WTC 7 Did Not Collapse from Fire" - Dr. Leroy Hulsey, UAF, Sept. 6, 2017
    https://youtu.be/NJAWl8unZeA
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    https://edition.cnn.com/2020/08/09/world/doctor-runs-with-mask-on-trnd/index.html

    In an on air interview with CNN Sunday morning, the ICU doctor said he wanted to show everyone that masks are safe to wear and are a necessity in curbing the spread of the coronavirus.
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    ZOH 2022 | Hokej v respirátoru. Žádná věda. Nebezpečné! Rusky a Kanaďanky se neshodnou - iDNES.cz
    https://www.idnes.cz/oh/peking-2022/rusko-kanada-respiratory-hokej.A220207_131737_olympiada-peking-2022_rmp


    Že se vám v respirátoru špatně dýchá i za poklidné chůze? Zkuste si v něm odehrát hokejový mač na olympiádě proti těm nejlepším! „Ohrozili jsme tím zdraví sportovců,“ postěžovala si po prohře 1:6 s Kanadou ruská brankářka Maria Sorokinová. Kvůli chybějícím výsledkům testů musely všechny hokejistky nosit na ledě ochranu úst. Přijatelný kompromis, nebo nebezpečný hazard se zdravím?

    Vždyť i kouč české reprezentace mužů Filip Pešán v pondělí prohlásil: „Absurdní a nebezpečné. Kdo někdy sportoval s rouškou, tak ví, že to ovlivní i periferní vidění. Hráčům bych rozhodně nedoporučoval, aby do takového zápasu někdy šli.“

    Hokejistky neměly moc na výběr. Zápas měl začít v 5:10 středoevropského času, jenže Ruskám nestihly přijít výsledky testů. A protože měly minulý týden šest pozitivních hráček, Kanaďanky odmítly vyjet na led.

    „Trochu nás to šokovalo,“ přiznala Ruska Alexandra Vafinová.

    Kanaďanky přijely až po hodině, když se obě země dohodly na kompromisu, že hráčky i rozhodčí nastoupí s ochranou úst. Za posvěcení prezidenta IIHF Luca Tardifa.

    „Častokrát jsme v nich trénovaly, takže jsme z toho nedělaly vědu. Náš manažer za námi přišel, ať si je nasadíme, tak jsme to udělaly,“ říkala kanadská útočnice Brianne Jennerová. „Jasně, párkrát se vám puk ztratí pod nohama, ale nechtěly jsme hledat výmluvy. Adaptovaly jsme se a odvedly dobrou práci.“

    „Hlavní je, že by nás trenéři a lékařský tým nepustili do situace, kde bychom se necítily bezpečně,“ ulevila si kolegyně Natalie Spoonerová.

    To Rusky měly menší pochopení.

    „Bylo to docela náročné, ale co zmůžete?“ povzdechla si Daria Gredzenová.

    „Člověk si zvykne...,“ přidala Oxana Bratiševová.

    „Nebyl to vůbec příjemný pocit, vždyť nemáte v respirátoru dostatek vzduchu. Dosednete na střídačku a hned ho odsouváte z tváře, abyste se mohly nadechnout,“ nelíbilo se Anně Šibanovové. „Ale je to všechno mimo naši kontrolu, my postupovaly podle pravidel a podle toho, co nám nakázali.“

    A dodala: „Ve výsledku jsme všechny měly negativní výsledky a naopak jedné Kanaďance, co jsem slyšela, vyšel pozitivní.“

    „Taková je doba,“ podotkla Maria Batalovová. „Virus se pohybuje vzduchem a každý se bojí nakažení. My se jen snažíme držet pravidel.“

    průběhu zápasu výsledky z čínské laboratoře dorazily a hokejistky dostaly svolení respirátory na třetí třetinu sundat. Rusky tak učinily, Kanaďanky si je i přesto ponechaly.

    „Když jsme to vydržely dvě třetiny, proč bychom neměly být extra opatrné i dál a nevydržet tři?“ nabídla pohled Kanaďanka Spoonerová.

    „S výsledky jsme věděly, že můžeme hrát bezpečně i bez nich,“ vysvětlila naopak Ruska Vafinová.

    Rusky se pak vyjádřily i k možnosti, že by na covidové testy nechodily v osm, ale už v pět ráno. A takový nápad se jim moc nelíbil.

    „Řekněme, že hrajeme v devět večer a skončíme o půlnoci. V jednu v noci dorazíme do olympijské vesnice a za další čtyři hodiny máme být na testu? O takovém pravidlu nám nikdo neřekl. Chodíme na testy okamžitě po probuzení,“ řekla Šibanovová.


    nějaká antivaxerská dezinformační data k tomu

    Why it could be dangerous to exercise with a face mask on
    https://theconversation.com/why-it-could-be-dangerous-to-exercise-with-a-face-mask-on-140277

    There are negligible levels of carbon dioxide in atmospheric air, and when exercising with only the fencing mask this remains below 1%. With the face mask on, it trebled to 3%. Bear in mind that the UK Health and Safety Executive – the government agency responsible for regulation and enforcement of workplace safety – advises that employees should not be exposed to 1.5% carbon dioxide for more than 15 minutes.

    Coronavirus disease (COVID-19): Masks
    https://www.who.int/news-room/questions-and-answers/item/coronavirus-disease-covid-19-masks

    // i ty nahubky a jejich nuceni lidi je nosit cely den pres 2 roky nebo dokonce v nich sportovat... vcetne nuceni malych deti cvicit na telocviku v respiratorech, bude imho fakt jednou u soudu za zlociny proti lidskosti resp. genocidu. nebo minimalne obecne ohrozeni

    covidisti furt cykli v tom "dej si vakcinu, a pochopis", a protoze nosili rousky doktori u operace, jsou logically zcela zdrave za vsech okolnosti po neomezenou dobu, a vsechny reci o CO2 a spol jsou jen konspiracni teorie.

    ono se vysetri, co kdo kdy vedel o vedeckych datech o bezpecnosti fyzicke aktivity v respiratorech. a jestli je skutecne konspiracni teorie, ze obzvlaste deti potrebuji vice kysliku.. ti co to prikazali pod pohruzkou fyzickeho nasili, se budou muset zodpovidat.


    Nejaky fackchecking:

    Doctor Runs 22 Miles With Face Mask to Debunk Oxygen Levels Myth
    https://www.menshealth.com/fitness/a33521706/face-mask-oxygen-levels-running-myth-coronavirus-doctor-fact-check/

    COVID-19: Doctor runs 22 miles wearing a mask to prove they're safe
    https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2020/08/14/covid-19-doctor-runs-22-miles-wearing-mask-prove-safe/3373408001/

    Doctor Debunks Myths About Wearing Face Masks
    https://ksltv.com/442677/doctor-debunks-myths-about-wearing-face-masks/

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