JIKE: At a MUFON conference in 1995, Leir examined X-rays from a woman who believed she was an abductee. He later extracted two small metallic foreign objects from her, and also from a second patient. The objects were analyzed by the New Mexico Institute of Mining and Technology, which determined that they were "composed of commonly found elements", such as iron or aluminum. In describing some of these elements, the lab report made reference to the composition of meteors. Leir interpreted this to mean that the objects removed from his patients were "of extraterrestrial origin". He came to believe the objects were devices implanted by aliens and "scientific proof of non-terrestrial experimentation on man". Leir soon became prominent in the alien abduction and UFO communities. He hired a dentist, a radiologist and a general surgeon to assist him in his practice. Leir claimed the objects he removed from patients emitted “deep space frequency radio waves", had strange magnetic properties, or contained odd crystalline structures. According to skeptical investigator Joe Nickell, the "implants" Leir claimed to have discovered were most likely ordinary objects such as shards of glass or fragments of metal that become lodged in arms, hands, legs and feet due to accidental falls or barefoot walking. When asked to provide a forensic medical institute with specimens or photos for analysis, Leir's associate, Derrel Sims, refused. Asi tak... :D

JIKE: Ono je klidne možný, ze tahle planeta vůbec není ani naše. A asi jak by mohla logicky být v našem vlastnictví? Jsme jen nájemnici? Lol

MAJOR Announcement - The Truth About Bob Lazar
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPETEez1k14

PALEONTOLOG: ne. :) o mnohem jsem se dozvedel od Krsnu.

PALEONTOLOG: Neco je ve Vedach, dost s tim souznim... a premyslim o tom ve smyslu.... kam se pouta tva pozornost, tam jsi. Take jsem zacal rozlisovat, co je ciste pozemske, nase mysleni. Kazda planeta je specificka a ma svuj myslenkovy obal, nebo jak to rici. My se podilime na tomto myslenkovem poli zeme. Proto mnoho bytosti apeluje i na to, aby jsi si vice vsimal svych myslenek. Ledacos to pak o nas prozrazuje. Nektere bytosti do toho ani nechteji lezt. Je to docela toxicke prostredi myslenek.

BIRLIBAN: jj maj tu fofr...Tolox, jižní Španělsko

KYARA: Stíhačka na dvorku. Kde to je, prosím? Nějaké Středomoří..?..

Above Majestic (2018) - IMDb
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt9143304/

HALCYON: https://www.novinky.cz/koktejl/489023-piloti-nekolika-letadel-zahledli-nad-irskem-ufo.html

UFOs spotted off Irish coast under investigation - BBC News
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-46181662

Já už jsme několikrát navrhoval nějakej cross klub UFOESOKONSPIRACIVESMÍRONÁZOR, ale jestli to tu nadále bude pokračovat tímhle směrem tak asi tenhle klub přestanu sledovat...

SCHWEPZ: už jenom to slovo názor...

SCHWEPZ: dejme tomu, ze to tak je... a podle čeho usuzujes, ze racionální myšlení má větší váhu než emoční?