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    PETVAL
    PETVAL --- ---
    me by zajimalo, jestli uz mate nejakou zpetnou vazbu od 'systemu' (BIS, Policie, atd..)
    JDEE
    JDEE --- ---
    Zvazuji novou anketu.Nejake napady?
    Kam by melo nase auditko smerovat? Jaka temata by vas zajimala?
    JDEE
    JDEE --- ---
    Před týdnem se poprvé v ČR předávaly v divadle Na Zabradli ceny BigBrotherAwards.
    Párty to byla pěkná :) . Ceremonial předávání cen trošku divadelně pojatý.
    Akci pořádalo občanské sdružení Iuridicum remedium.
    Přidávám odkaz na výsledky:
    http://www.bigbrotherawards.cz/index.php?p=4
    JDEE
    JDEE --- ---
    O SM007 v Hospodarskych novinach od Premysla Soucka:

    http://digiweb.ihned.cz/1-10122900-17120880-i00000_d-be
    JDEE
    JDEE --- ---
    Prevzato z mailu:

    Cracking down on crime in a cellular era
    ========================================


    By Chris Oakes International Herald Tribune
    MONDAY,OCTOBER 31,2005


    When soccer fans rioted in Rotterdam last April - this time
    targeting the police, not just rival fans - they might have expected
    a fierce chase. There was no way to foresee, however, the unique
    wireless wrinkle used in the pursuit by prosecutors determined to
    round up as many of the offenders as possible.

    After the initial phase of the investigation left many of more than
    200 suspects on the loose, the Dutch authorities turned to a kind of
    cellular door-to-door search - mass text messaging in search of
    criminal information.

    The cellular-era tactic has appeared in a growing number of cities
    since early last year, as the police seek to turn cellphones into
    direct lines to potential witnesses.

    "We were really determined to arrest everybody involved," said
    Jeichien Degraaff, spokeswoman for the Rotterdam public prosecutor's
    office.

    The clash was a uniquely bloody event for the department, with 50
    officers badly hurt, according to Degraaff. Approximately 40 people
    were arrested on the scene.

    Video images taken by the police during the melee were used to add
    250 suspects, Degraaff said. Permission to show the image grabs on
    Dutch television and a police Web site was granted by the
    authorities.

    Unsatisfied with the results of those efforts, prosecutors decided
    to try using SMS for the first time in search of more witnesses.

    Investigators sent the SMS to 17,000 cellular subscribers, telling
    recipients that their phones were known to have been near the riot
    and to call the police with any information. The numbers were
    obtained from regional mobile carriers, whose records showed which
    phones were present in the riot area.

    Since the message was sent out in July, Degraaff said, arrests in
    the case have surpassed 130, with 100 suspects having begun court
    proceedings. Degraaff said her office believed the SMS effort played
    a role in leading to the additional arrests.

    The agency has dubbed the tactic "digital door-to-door," a reference
    to the door-to-door search for witness information police officers
    typically conduct in the area of a crime.

    The use of individual cellphone location data has become a routine
    component of prosecutions in the Netherlands and around the world.
    Signals received by area transmission "masts" can contain specific
    time, date, and general positioning information for a handset.

    It has also become more common for the police to establish SMS
    contact numbers for local precincts, which can receive information
    from the public by SMS - an alternative to a police station's local
    call-in number for submitting information on a crime.

    But the tactic of using SMS in mass reverse - where the police
    blanket a local area with an outgoing message to the public - was a
    first for Rotterdam.

    The police elsewhere also have begun similar experimentation with
    the technique, including agencies in other cities in the
    Netherlands, Britain and the United States.

    In the case of mass SMS, Degraaff said prosecutors obtained the
    numbers without any names, broadcasting the message without having
    any data about the identity of the recipients, a function of Dutch
    privacy laws.

    The issue of privacy has advocacy organizations concerned about law
    enforcement use of cellphone location data. When a system in Germany
    was announced, critics in the government denounced it for
    encouraging spying, saying participants could misuse the technology.

    Normally, police use of cellphone numbers has to be linked to a
    particular investigation and preferably linked to a suspect,
    Degraaff said. "That's why in this case we only asked for the
    numbers of the phones," she said. "And we didn't ask the owners, the
    names, or the identities of the owners of those numbers. We were
    looking for witnesses."

    Somewhat surprisingly, five or so suspects responded directly to the
    SMS by turning themselves in, Degraaff said, adding that it was
    possible such suspects believed, incorrectly, the message meant they
    had been identified.

    --------------------


    My comment:

    Obviously police have ilegally obtained 17000 data-records
    from the GSM network providers...both are in violation since
    these records can not be given without a court-order (wiretap)
    for each and evey phone...for each phone their should be at least
    some little evidence that it was involved in a crime

    Saying: "Yes but we have only asked for numbers and not the names"
    is not relevant. that would be the same as robbing a bank and
    taking just 1000 $ while leaving behind 50000 $...you will agree
    that such a robbery is still a crime.

    Any evidence resulting from above cannot be used in a court
    of law since it was obtained ilegally (no wiretap-permits)


    What can we learn from this ?

    Information and Data on cellphones is sometimes issued/given
    without a court-order and the laws are set a side.
    Even in a "sophisticated" country like the Netherlands.

    We have a privacy-watching organisation here...and it's
    government-subsidised...they have reacted very slowly and
    powerless...therefore government-subsidised should read as
    "on the payroll" ...wich explains it all.

    Also it shows that GSM-providers can't be trusted to not give out
    your data without a court-order.


    contranl
    The Netherlands











    INGLOR2
    INGLOR2 --- ---
    REDTIME --- --- 14.26:28 27.10.2005 Nejde jen o Itálii. Velkými uchy jsou rovněž Nizozemí a Německo.

    Co se anglosaských zemí týče, spolupráce USA, GB, Kanady a Austrálie na konstrukci Echelonu je bohužel docela známá. Všem zemím to vyhovuje, neboť pokud např. Britové mají legislativní problém odposlouchávat nějakého svého občana, požádají o tuto službičku Američany nebo Australany, a naopak.

    Echelon - Wikipedia

    Potíž s Echelonem je ta, že je nepříjemné podezření, že se používá i pro průmyslovou špionáž. Což už se třeba v oblasti software týká kdekoho, třeba naší firmy.

    Proto šifrujte, šifrujte :-)
    JDEE
    JDEE --- ---
    Jeste mala poznamka, nase sidlo je az na konci Pernerove (blize Invalidovne).
    Na domu je velika cedule "Cepro", nejkratsi cesta ze zastavky tram Urxova.
    Vetsina lidi, ktera nas hleda ma problem to najit, a proto si radeji poznacte telefon a pripadne zavolejte :)

    602 344 594
    (cislo funguje jen v dobe, kdy jsme pritomni ve firme)
    JDEE
    JDEE --- ---
    !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!SPECIALNI AKCE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Tento tyden jsme ochotni kazdemu, kdo dorazi k nam do firmy CircleTech, Pernerova 48, Praha - Karlin nainstalovat i verzi CzechTek a Huli (tj. za cenu CzechTek a Huli poskytnout servis ekvivalentni verzi Profi).
    Ve firme se nachazime zpravidla mezi 10 az 21 hod. .
    Budeme radi, kdyz nas dopredu kontaktujete (mame hodne prace):
    jiri.satanek@circletech.net
    JDEE
    JDEE --- ---
    Odkaz na clanek z Reflexu(odkaz na soutez uz byl :) )

    http://reflex.cz/Clanek21494.html
    JDEE
    JDEE --- ---
    Docela zajimava konverzace, kterou jsem absolvoval na Groweru.

    NEKDO:
    sifrovany smsky sou uz samy o sobe podezdreli, podle me a pro policajty taky....jestli do ty doby vahali, podle me nasadej jiny metody a zacnou te sledovat.
    lepsi je kdyz to de mit telefon s napr. twistem jenom na podobny zalezitosti a jinak pouzivat normalni cislo s jinym telefonem. s tim ze to ma jeste jeden hacek ale s tim at si kazdej namaha hlavu sam...

    JDEE aka case:
    V soucasne dobe se pouzivani sifrovanych smsek projevi na sms_centru pouze ve statistice. Jejich filtrace by byla mozna pouze pomoci specialni softwarove ficury od Comverse za 30M (info vysoce postaveneho insidera). Jelikoz zakon takovou povinost
    operatorum neuklada, da se predpokladat (opet nazor insidera), ze zavedeni tohoto softu lze odhadovat priblizne za 2 az 3 roky (ono 30 mil neni zas tak uplne malo).
    K dalsi poznamce si dovoluji poznamenat, ze takovy postup jako je spolehani se na pouzivani Twist karty pouze pro specialni zalezitosti a duvera v jeji bezpecnost je pomerne naivni, byt priznavam, ze je to jiste lepsi nez nic .

    NEKDO:
    case...zkus priblizit v cem si myslis z twist a dedikovany telefon neni dostatecny reseni? samozrejme za predpokladu ze ta kontaktovany cisla nevolas i z nornalniho, podobne jako lokace volani(zapinat pouze napr. na vaclavaku), pak zadny ankety, osobni udaje a pod.....zadny jiny problem nevidim a pak je to opravdu anonymni. jestli k tomu mas jeste nejaky dalsi info tak se vyjadri

    JDEE aka case:
    Odpoved na tuto otazku neni uplne jednoducha a odpoved, kterou poskytnu bude odrazet pouze cast pravdy a nemam v umyslu ji dale zadnym zpusobem rozvadet ci uprasnevat. Informace o takovych zalezitostech jsou prilis nebezpecne.
    A/nejprve zhodnotim prakticke pouziti Tebou navrhovaneho postupu
    Predpokladejme, ze pouzivas dedikovany telefon a prepaid pro zcela specificke zalezitosti a volas vzdy jen z "Vaclavaku" (rozumej z prostoru, kde je hodne lidi, kteri pravdepodobne telefonuji soucasne), nechces-li se zbavit vyhod mobilni telefonie tezko to zaridis u kolegy na druhe strane.
    B/zamerem signalu sledovane osoby
    Predpokladejme, ze jsi sledovana osoba. Zamerem Tveho signalu zjistim veskere potrebne udaje a dal Te jiz nebudu muset ani sledovat.
    C/vylepseni Tve metody, pomerne pouzivane v nekterych kruzich
    Neustala vymena telefonu i prepaid karet (pomerne drahe) a pouze komplikujici sledovani
    D/ nektere metody teorie grafu(aneb skutecne jen troska matematiky)
    Predpokladejme, ze Ty i Tvi spolupracovnici pouzivate metodu C zcela synchronne. Potom se pomerne casto pri analyze telefoniho spojeni objevuje zcela specificka navzajem komunikujici skupina(frekvence spojeni, hierarchie komunikace,lokalizace jednotlivych subjektu etc.). Takovy efekt vyvola v lepsim pripade zajem jen ceske rozvedky(kontrarozvedky). Metoda C je stale velmi casto pouzivana nejvyssimi podnikatelskymi a zlocineckymi skupinami.
    E/ At pouze nekritizuji
    Pro utajeni identity pri pouziti pouze GSM site (bez doplnujiciho routovani, pripadne site "proxy" telefonu - zatim pomerne nakladne a pouzivane ve skupinach, ktere lepe nezminovat) je metoda C urcite nejlepsi. Ma ovsem smysl jen tehdy, jestlize obe strany zaroven sifruji, jinak ne.
    D/ Zaver
    Metoda C klade vysoke pozadavky na organizovanost skupiny a dostatek financnich prostredku. Ma smysl jedine pri soucasnem pouziti sifrovani vyplyva z napr. filtrace smsek na klicova slova etc,
    REDTIME
    REDTIME --- ---
    Mno jeste muzeme byt radi, ze nezijeme treba v italii:
    http://www.blisty.cz/art/25370.html
    KVJETINKA
    KVJETINKA --- ---
    !
    "U odposlechů telekomunikačního provozu byl v rozpětí 67,3-69,1% naplněn „důvodný předpoklad, že byly sděleny významné skutečnosti pro trestní řízení“(§ 88/1 tr. ř.)"

    "Vývojový trend provedených odposlechů telekomunikačního provozu v letech 1999-2003 vykazuje dle statistiky poskytnuté servisním útvarem PČR (ÚZČ SKPV) neustálý nárůst. Maximální rozdíl zaznamenaný mezi roky 1999 a 2000 činil 58%, v dalších dvou letech následoval konstantní nárůst pohybující se kolem 17% a v roce 2003 se zvýšil na 27,6 %."

    http://www.mvcr.cz/2003/aktualit/2005/odposlech.doc
    JDEE
    JDEE --- ---
    Viz
    soutez.sms007.cz

    Aneb hleda se genialni autista :))))
    LEFTY
    LEFTY --- ---
    nebo si počkej do pátku, kdy bude na reflex.cz
    JDEE
    JDEE --- ---
    Radsi kup Reflex, neprislo by mi fair to ted naskenovat a vystavit, pozdeji mozna, ted ne.
    REDTIME
    REDTIME --- ---
    JDEE: jo ja to beru :) Uprime sem na ten clanek od JXD dost zvedavej ..... naskenujes ho? :) nebo budu nucen koupit reflex?
    JDEE
    JDEE --- ---
    REDTIME: Kdybych si myslel, ze ta sifra jde zlomit, tak takovou soutez nevypisu.Nevypsal bych ji ani tehdy, kdyby mela mit na 0.001% viteze ;) . Ovsem, vem prosim uvahu, ze mnozi lide maji o sifrovani velmi zkreslene informace a tohle je pomerne pekna demonstrace. Kdybychom nabidli vice, zase by to nikdo nebral vazne.
    REDTIME
    REDTIME --- ---
    JDEE: mno ono to zas tolik nevadi ... preci po kauze czechtek se bublan nechal slyset, ze bude chtit pro svuj rezort jen tak miliardu na necekane vydaje a to se z toho jiste poplati .... a mozna jeste zbyde par milionu na rozehnani koncertu symfonickeho orchestru :)
    REDTIME
    REDTIME --- ---
    JDEE: hehehe soutez o 1 milion Kc ..... soutez temer na 99,999% bez vyherce :) Kdybych umel zlomit tu sifru, tak se s tim urcite nepujdu chlubit za pouhej milion do souteze, ale prodam to vyhodneji :D
    Kliknutím sem můžete změnit nastavení reklam