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    KOUDYHodinky - Jake mate? Jake chcete? O kterych snite? obrazky,rady,diskuze
    FINSON
    FINSON --- ---
    STEPNI_VLK: Nesledoval jsem to celé, ale myslím, že tohle je příspěvek, kvůli kterému se na Chronomagu strhla mohutná diskuse hned v několika vláknech :-) Závěrem bylo, že podložené informace nemá nikdo, ani OP na WUS, a tak nějak to vyšumělo...
    STEPNI_VLK
    STEPNI_VLK --- ---
    A ještě tedy doplnění pro ty, co nešprechují anglicky. ;)

    Mozna jsem to mel prelozit, ne kazdy mluvi anglicky, i kdyz to hlavni je myslim z te tabulky patrne...

    Podle japonskych predpisu je mozne oznacovat napisem "made in japan" i vyrobky z tovaren mimo uzemi Japonska, pokud je plne vlastnena japonci a japonsky pracovnik je i pritomen pri vlastni vyrobe.. takze levnejsi hodinky s timto napisem a oznacenim "J" jsou vlastne taky produkovany v Malajsii, uplne stejne jako "K" hodinky..

    Navic treba i strojek pro drazsi MM300 (puvodni starsi strojek pro GS) je dnes sestavovan roboticky v Malajsii..

    Informace je to od Seiko lidi, ale neoficialni a asi tezko plne overitelna, ale ekonomicky naprosto logicka...

    Takze kdo chce mit uplnou jistotu japonskeho ducha, tak musi jit do Grand Seiko :-)
    STEPNI_VLK
    STEPNI_VLK --- ---
    LEXXA: Víceméně zbytečné to řešit, resp. platit více za J. Viz následující citace:

    často zde probíhá diskuse na téma Seiko s "K" nebo s "J" ... odcituji k tomuto něco ze včerejšího vlákna z WUS:

    ... due to the nature of customs and labor laws in Japan, products are generally allowed to be stamped with Made in Japan if they are produced outside the national boundaries as long as they are manufactured in a wholly owned Japanese firm where the work is overseen by Japanese nationals.

    Generally speaking, watches priced below about 90000 yen (currently $838 US dollars) do not contain enough profit margin to be made in Japan. This is not just for Seiko, but for all major Japanese manufacturers.

    Watches priced roughly from 90000 to 250000 yen (currently $838 to 2328 US dollars) are often finished or with final assembly done in Japan and higher end watches above this point are often fully assembled in Japan......

    (RP - Raw Parts, MIM= Made in Malaysia, MIC = Made in China, MIJ = Made in Japan, RA = Robot Assembly, HA = Hybrid Assembly (robot and human), HuA - Human Assembly)

    Generally Seiko divers and many other models less than about $175 dollars are made of raw parts from China, with assembly done by robots in Malaysia and are overseen by Malaysian technicians.

    SKX007 K = Raw Parts made mainly in China, MIM, RA, Oversight from Malaysian Technicians
    SKX007 J = Raw Parts made mainly in China, MIM, RA, Oversight from Japanese Technicians (which allows the J version to be labeled as Made in Japan)

    SBDC001 (Sumo) -almost all Sumo versions - Raw Parts made mainly in China, MIM, RA, Oversight from Japanese Technicians on assembly line

    SNM031, 033, etc... (Samurai) - Raw Parts mainly from China, MIM, RA, Oversight from Japanese Technicians

    SBDC007 (Shogun) - Raw Parts from mainly China, Titanium case machined and finished in Malaysia, MIM, HA, with final oversight done in Japan by human hands

    SBDX001 (MarineMaster 300m) - Raw Parts mainly from Japan and Malaysia, MIM, RA with final oversight by Japanese technicians in Japan (bet this will surprise many as the 8L35 in this watch is robot assembled)

    SBDB001 (MarineMaster 600m Titanium) - Spring Drive made in Japan, MIJ, HuA with all assembly overseen by Japanese technicians in Japan

    SBBN017 - Quartz movement made in Malaysia, MIM, HA with final inspection by Japanese technicians

    SBBN013 - Quartz movement made in Malaysia, MIJ, HuA with all assembly done by Japanese technicians in Japan

    SBDX011 - Raw Parts from Japan and Malaysia, MIM, HA with final oversight by Japanese technicians in Japan

    SBDB009 - Raw Parts from Japan and Malaysia, Spring Drive made in Japan, MIJ, HuA with all assembly overseen by Japanese technicians in Japan

    Almost all the Grand Seikos are made from Japanese or Malaysia parts, although some of the quartz movements are made in Malaysia. They are all assembled in Japan by Japanese technicians. Most are hand assembled.
    FINSON
    FINSON --- ---
    LUBANCZ: Ptal ses, dostals odpověď. Nemáš zač.
    LUBANCZ
    LUBANCZ --- ---
    KALIBAN: jo, to uz sem koukal... mas to doma? nechci aby to vypadalo strasne a chci aby to neco vydrzelo pri cestovani :)
    nejvic by se mi libilo tohle kdy bych vyresil dve veci najednou.. http://www.amazon.co.uk/...-Storage/dp/B002S0NM4G/ref=sr_1_57?s=watch&ie=UTF8&qid=1416148615&sr=1-57

    KOUDY: je to kvalitni, respektive neni to takova ta lepenka potazena dekorem dreva?
    KOUDY
    KOUDY --- ---
    LUBANCZ: ja koupil na doporuceni kalibana tohle a maximalni spokojenost

    DeTomaso Trend Uhrenbox Mahagoni braun für 10 Uhren W-053-B: Amazon.de: Uhren
    http://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B001C9W3J4?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00
    BONGI
    BONGI --- ---
    LUBANCZ: Mam dve krabice na 6 kusu z Lidlu - a vypadaji dost dobre. Jinak mam winder na 6 automatu a 8 bez otacek Klarstein.
    WOJTYLA
    WOJTYLA --- ---
    Nekdo tu shanel Hamiltony. Tydle jsou pekny myslim.

    Hamilton viewmatic auto - Prodám - Chronomag fórum
    http://forum.chronomag.cz/index.php?/topic/77974-hamilton-viewmatic-auto/
    KALIBAN
    KALIBAN --- ---
    LUBANCZ: neco takovyhlehlo http://www.amazon.com/...sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1416147234&sr=8-2&keywords=watch+case&pebp=1416147226167 na amazonu toho maj mrte.
    winder netreba, automaty jsou z domu.
    LUBANCZ
    LUBANCZ --- ---
    FINSON: diky, mel sem trosku jinou, reprezentacnejsi predstavu nez krabici z lidlu.. :)
    FINSON
    FINSON --- ---
    LEXXA: Řada SARB nemá značení J nebo K. Mám tady mírně použité SARB033, ještě mírněji použité SARB035 a jako nové SCVS003 a všechny mají na dýnku nápis "Made in Japan" ;-)
    LEXXA
    LEXXA --- ---
    FINSON: J nebo K?
    FINSON
    FINSON --- ---
    LUBANCZ: Krabici mám na 6 ks z Lidlu, winder nemám a patrně přecházím na quartz a redukuji sbírku. Nechcete někdo SARBy od Seika? :-)
    LUBANCZ
    LUBANCZ --- ---
    Jelikoz se mi rozrusta sbirka, jakou pouzivate krabici na hodinky a winder? :)
    BONGI
    BONGI --- ---
    Tohle sice znamena investici do renovace, ale ma to charisma.

    BONGI
    BONGI --- ---
    TANTRAMAN: Nevim zeptal jsem se, ale tak 90ta leta?
    TANTRAMAN
    TANTRAMAN --- ---
    BONGI: nevis z jakyho jsou roku ?
    BONGI
    BONGI --- ---
    Cisty, jednoduchy design, konzervativni pojeti, ktere ale pusobi velmi elegantne .. Prim obcas umel a umi. Jen jsem zvedavy, kam vybehne cena : http://aukro.cz/hodinky-prim-automatic-21-jewels-c-2939-i4786566381.html

    BEREN
    BEREN --- ---
    pritelkyni se libily moc moje B&M, tak sem ji jedny koupil taky...

    FINSON
    FINSON --- ---
    BEREN: Congrats!
    Už jsem po nich taky koukal, ale začínám se bát, že nakonec skončím u quartzu.
    Kliknutím sem můžete změnit nastavení reklam