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    OVERDRIVEOVERDRIVE, nejlepsi pritel sama sebe: „Nech si zdát o spaní“
    LAUNCHER
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    LIBRIUM: A ty si myslis, ze tech 30 zemi nize nakoupilo Sputnik V na teto bazi?

    Pls get real.
    LAUNCHER
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    OVERDRIVE: Prijde mi, ze to nemyslis zle a ze nejdriv bylo opravdu spoustu pochyb, ale ted uz je to prokazano, ockuje se o ma to dobre vysledky.

    Jen bych si "zupdatoval" nazor.
    LIBRIUM
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    LAUNCHER: a keby na teba diler len ztamrkal a povedal ti, ze "je to Comirnaty" a "mas mu proste verit", lebo "predsa nie je odlud, aby v takejto situacii o niecom takom klamal", veril by si dilerovi tiez?

    Ja teda nie, a dokym nebude ten registracny proces a inspekcie produkujucich zavodov EMA-ou uzavrete s pozitivnymi vysledkami, neverim ani Rusom (verili sme im napriklad aj pocas olympiad, a dopadlo to tak, ze s asistenciou FSB podkopali cely system protidopingovych kontrol. Verili im Ukrajinci a prisli tak o Krym a na Donbase im este doteraz Rusi aj s miestnymi narkomafiami vrazdia ludi).
    LAUNCHER
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    OVERDRIVE: Ad Sputnik V.

    Muzes citovat pls? Konkretne string "FDA" mi to nenachazi.

    Naopak tam vidim napsano:

    "But the outcome reported here is clear and the scientific principle of vaccination is demonstrated, which means another vaccine can now join the fight to reduce the incidence of COVID-19."

    K tomu z Wiki:

    Emergency mass-distribution of the vaccine began in December 2020 in multiple countries including Russia, Argentina, Belarus, Hungary, Serbia and the United Arab Emirates. As of March 2021, thirty nine countries have granted Sputnik V emergency use authorization[9] while over a billion doses of the vaccine were ordered for immediate distribution globally.[10]

    Sputnik V COVID-19 vaccine - Wikipedia
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sputnik_V_COVID-19_vaccine#Scientific_assessment

    Scientific assessment:

    Nejdriv pochyby:

    Balram Bhargava, director of the Indian Council of Medical Research, said that Russia had managed to fast-track a COVID-19 vaccine candidate through its early phases.[43]


    On 11 August 2020, a World Health Organization (WHO) spokesperson said, "... prequalification of any vaccine includes the rigorous review and assessment of all required safety and efficacy data".[7]

    A WHO assistant director said, "You cannot use a vaccine or drugs or medicines without following through all of these stages, having complied with all of these stages".[44]
    Francois Balloux, a geneticist at University College London, called the Russian government's approval of Gam-COVID-Vac a "reckless and foolish decision".[2] Professor Paul Offit, the director of the Vaccine Education Center at Children's Hospital of Philadelphia, characterized the announcement was a "political stunt", and stated that the untested vaccine could be very harmful.[7]

    Stephen Griffin, Associate Professor in the School of Medicine, University of Leeds, said that we can be cautiously optimistic that SARS-CoV2 vaccines targeting the spike protein are effective. Moreover, as the Sputnik antigen is delivered via a different modality, namely using a disabled Adenovirus rather than formulated RNA, this provides flexibility in terms of perhaps one or other method providing better responses in certain age-groups, ethnicities, etc., plus the storage of this vaccine ought to be more straightforward.[45][failed verification]

    Pozdeji optimismus:

    Stephen Evans, professor of pharmacoepidemiology at the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine, said "the data [is] compatible with the vaccine being reasonably effective ... These results are consistent with what we see with other vaccines, because the really big message for global health scientists is that this disease [COVID-19] is able to be addressed by vaccines."[45]

    Julian Tang, clinical virologist at the University of Leicester, said: "Despite the earlier misgivings about the way this Russian Sputnik V vaccine was rolled out more widely – ahead of sufficient Phase 3 trial data – this approach has been justified to some extent now."[46]

    Ian Jones, a professor of virology at the University of Reading, and Polly Roy, professor and Chair of Virology at The London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine, commenting on phase III results published in the Lancet in February 2021, said "The development of the Sputnik V vaccine has been criticised for unseemly haste, corner cutting, and an absence of transparency. But the outcome reported here is clear and the scientific principle of vaccination is demonstrated, which means another vaccine can now join the fight to reduce the incidence of COVID-19."[47]

    Hildegund C. J. Ertl, a vaccine scientist at the Wistar Institute, called the phase-III results published on 2 February 2021 "great": "Good safety profile, more than 90% efficacy across all age groups, 100% efficacy against severe disease or death, can be stored in the fridge and low cost. What more would we want?"[48]

    According to preliminary review by experts,[who?] the lyophilized formulation of Gam-COVID-Vac is similar to the smallpox vaccine, circumventing the need for continuous "colder chain" or cold-chain storage – as required for the Pfizer–BioNTech and Moderna vaccines respectively – and allowing transportation to remote locations with reduced risk of vaccine spoilage.[49][50] "
    LAUNCHER
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    OVERDRIVE: Ad Pfizer:

    1) Do Prahy nejezdim.

    2) Pokud by byla vakcina Pfizer ke koupeni od neoficialniho dealera, mel ji uskladnenou rozumnym zpusobem a byl to ochoten predvest, bylo na ni cislo k online overeni a to cislo zafungovalo, tak moc rad.
    OVERDRIVE
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    LAUNCHER: Aneb jednoduse: bodnul by sis neco cireho v lahvicce s napisem treba Pfizer, koupeneho od dealera z hlavaku?
    OVERDRIVE
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    LAUNCHER: Jo no, ja nemam nic proti samotne vakcine POKUD BY EXISTOVAL JEDINY ŤRELEVANTNI DUKAZ JEJIHO FUNGOVANI, rozbor slozeni,...

    Vsimni si v tom Lancetu je napsano, ze SputnikV je ok, za predpokladu, ze bude mozna kontrola jeho vyvoje nezavislym organem (FDA/EMA) a za predpokladu, ze bude mozne kontrolovat kvalitu vyroby.

    Ani jedna z podminek zatim nebyla splnena a Sovet se o to ani nepokousi, i kdyz je neustale kontaktuji jak EMA, tak FED. Merkelova vcera pozadala EMU at to udela i bez Rusu, coz je dobry plan, otazka je provedeni.

    Mezitim se dnes objevila studie z Brazilie, ze Sinofarm bohuzel spis nefunguje, nez funguje.


    V neposledni rade je problem v tom, ze Rusko pouziva vakcinu jako zbran dezinformacni valky a natlaku. Napriklad Izraelcum odmitli vydat veznene lidi, zatcene Rusy v Syrii, dokud Izraelci neodeberou nejake mnozstvi vakciny. A to je jen to okate.

    Idealni je ocividne: rozdelit spolecnost na ty, co vakcinu chteji a na ty, co nechteji, takze dodani i nedodani zpusobi rozkol. Pokud to ma byt opravdu hybridni valka, idealni je, aby v ampuli nebylo nic funkcniho, pac tak zaroven snizis pocet obrancu dane zeme.
    LAUNCHER
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    OVERDRIVE: Pls, proc ta animozita? Neni lepsi mit radost, ze podarilo rychle pripravit vice ruznych vakcin? Co je na Sputnik V, pripadne na libovolne jine fungujici vakcine, spatne?

    Tim se prekvapeny ptam, zadne zakulisni info nemam.

    Pokud dam Sputnik V do google, tak:

    https://www.bbc.com/news/health-55900622

    https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(21)00191-4/fulltext

    "The development of the Sputnik V vaccine has been criticised for unseemly haste, corner cutting, and an absence of transparency.11
    But the outcome reported here is clear and the scientific principle of vaccination is demonstrated, which means another vaccine can now join the fight to reduce the incidence of COVID-19.
    We declare no competing interests."

    Kvalita zdroje:

    The Lancet - Wikipedia
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lancet

    "According to the Journal Citation Reports, the journal has a 2018 impact factor of 59.102, ranking it second after The New England Journal of Medicine in the category "Medicine, General & Internal".[5]"

    OVERDRIVE
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    Navrhuji vakcinu SpitnikV testovat EMA. Tedy v Ostrave, na Halde Ema.
    LAUNCHER
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    LAUNCHER: Jinak ja sam se staram mamce o zasilani dat na pojistovny a je to silenstvi. I to ze ty portaly casto nejedou a chybova hlaska je treba "zkuste to pozdeji", nebo ani to ne.
    LAUNCHER
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    LAUNCHER: S kym jsem mluvil, ten si na to papirovani stezuje. Zarovan par lidi, co odeslo do jinych zemi, pripadne do soukromych praxi (zcela soukromych, bez pojistoven), si chvali vyrazny ubytek papirovani.
    LAUNCHER
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    OVERDRIVE: Myslim ze tohle bude hodne jine doktori vs ostatni.

    U nas, doktori - Tady je situace spise takova, ze se lide do zdravotnictvi vraci. Na Ocku je pani doktorka po materske (a je vyborna), par lidi se vratilo z duchodu. Respect.

    Co personal mimo doktory netusim. A bohuzel chapu o cem mluvis, je to hrozna otrocina za male penize. Zkusme v tom najit i pozitivni stopu - kdyz Ti lide nebudou, platy v tom odvetvi logicky porostou.

    Co by bylo fajn, jak ted tak i po Covid - odbourat zvracene mnozstvi papirovani. Bohuzel neverim, ze se to stane.
    OVERDRIVE
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    To to zas dopadlo:

    Achjo, zas je to jinak: na jare zena chtela na svatbu majovy desticek, byly povodne, ja chtel smrt soudruhum, a prisel covid, kdyz chci povodne, prijde tsunami (navic na Zelandu). Asi to s tema pranima k Bohu ukoncim, tohle se fakt neda.
    OVERDRIVE
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    By me zajimalo, zda id astraZeneca a Eman Makronovic vladnou cesko-slovanstinou.

    Pokud ne, navrhuji se hrozne urazit a s nicim, s nicim!!! bych jim uz nikdy, opakuji nikdy!!!! nepomohl.

    OVERDRIVE
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    Hlaska ve Veci Verejne, ze soudruzka hlavni hygenicka je zrejme odborni i na rasovou hygenu, to me rozsekalo.

    Stejne jako: jak ta muze byt na nejakym dulezitym postu, kdyz je rasista.
    No a ty se divis, kdyz v tehle zemi je rasita i ombudsman.


    Jo jo. To je zas vykvet. Od Blatneho, ktery nevi, jak se jeho podpis dostal na petici Milionu Chvilek, zadajici odstoupeni, k pani, ktera nevi, jak se ji dostavaj prispevky na facebucek.
    OVERDRIVE
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    SPECZ: ale jestli myslis takovy ty Smuclery a podobne, tak ti jen promazou facebook a twitter.
    Zaslech jsem mmchodem, ze Smucler nastoupil v nejakem kovidariu, dost doufam, ze tam bude drzet hubu a pak uz ji bude drzet naporad.
    OVERDRIVE
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    SPECZ: uz jsem slysel od nekolika zdravotniku, ze az pandemie zkonci, odchazi z nemocnice a nevermore

    To bude taky dobrej pruser.

    Psychologove tvrdi, ze hodne z nich zkonci s PTSD a bude to tak na invalidni duchod.

    Holt valka jak valka.
    SPECZ
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    OVERDRIVE: Nejen idioti budou chtit zapomenout. Ale treba i zdravotnici.
    OVERDRIVE
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