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    FRANCIMORJÓGA
    OMEGAPOINT
    OMEGAPOINT --- ---
    Byl jsem jednou se podivat na ayp meditaci, cvicili to uplne mizerne, bez poradne asany, se neda dhyana cvicit.
    AIM_FREEMAN
    AIM_FREEMAN --- ---
    OMEGAPOINT: ja se svym vnitrnim guruem jsem v kontaktu. no a co? to vybec neznamena, ze guru v tele neni obrovska milost a pomoc na ceste.
    AIM_FREEMAN
    AIM_FREEMAN --- ---
    I když je pravda, že hatha joga bez gurua v těle je dost problematická záležitost.

    Na druhou stranu, jak vidno, ani cesta dhyany s podporou zenoveho mistra neni bez nastrah, jak muzeme videt na nasem hyperiluminovanem kolegovi.

    Na treti stranu "Cvicte dhyanu fyzicky, v asane" je neskonala blbina.
    Holt duchovni materialismus nam buji a B2 Omega si interpretuje dle sebe.

    Já teda radši čtu a poslouchám rady jógových mistrů než nějaké nyxí hejhulání. :)
    OMEGAPOINT
    OMEGAPOINT --- ---
    Freeman: imho treba to delat. mit zkusenost. mam zkusenost s dhyanou/samadhi, vim jak na to, ucim to druhe. ucim samo fyzicke cviceni dhyany. dhyana neni logicka operace, ale fyzicke cviceni, kdy dhyanu proste delas. pokud si ji nikdy nedelal, tak ji zacni proste delat, idealni technika dhyany je ta kterou kopiruje "zazen", coz je jenom dhyana v asane, nepotrebujes zadneho "gurua v tele", ale cvicit to svojim telem-mysli, ten tvuj "guru", clovek ktery to ma cvicit, je v tobe. ses to ty vole.
    AIM_FREEMAN
    AIM_FREEMAN --- ---
    Vividhairāsanaih kumbhairvichitraih karanairapi
    Prabuddhāyām mahāśaktau prānah śūnye pralīyate

    By means of various postures and different Kumbhakas,
    when the great power (Kundalî) awakens, then the Prâna
    becomes absorbed in Sûnya (Samâdhi).

    Utpannaśaktibodhasya tyaktanihśeshakarmanah
    Yoghinah sahajāvasthā svayameva prajāyate

    The Yogî whose śakti has awakened, and who has
    renounced all actions, attains to the condition of
    Samâdhi, without any effort.

    OMEGAPOINT: nikoli.
    KAREN
    KAREN --- ---
    SLAUGHTER: ja se tesim, az si to vsechno proctu - zatim se postupne prokousavam.)) jen ad ta jutamatka: stale se mi z ni droli male drobecky - o dost min nez z ty klasicky za 200, ale droli... nemel bys tip, co s tim? uz mam podezreni, ze mam nejakej divnej pot))) ale je fakt, ze mi snad i Conti rikala, ze se ji trosku droli - u vas ve studiu jste nic takovyho nezaznamenali?
    OMEGAPOINT
    OMEGAPOINT --- ---
    Cvicte dhyanu fyzicky v asane, s usilim, to je jedina mozna cesta k samadhi.
    OMEGAPOINT
    OMEGAPOINT --- ---
    The following descriptions in the Upakkilesa Sutta further show how he find his way into the first four Jhanas, which he later considered as “samma samadhi”.

    “When Anuruddha, I realized that doubt is an imperfection of the mind, I dropped out of doubt, an imperfection of the mind. When I realized that inattention … sloth and torpor … fear … elation … inertia … excessive energy … deficient energy … desire … perception of diversity … excessive meditation on the ways, I abandoned excessive meditation on the ways, an imperfection of the mind.” “When Anuruddha, I realized that doubt is an imperfection of the mind, I dropped out of doubt, an imperfection of the mind. When I realized that inattention … sloth and torpor … fear … elation … inertia … excessive energy … deficient energy … desire … perception of diversity … excessive meditation on the ways, I abandoned excessive meditation on the ways, an imperfection of the mind, so I thought, 'I abandoned these imperfections of the mind.' Now the concentration will develop in three ways. ..And so, Anuruddha, develop concentration with directed thought and sustained thought; developed concentration without directed thought, but only with the sustained thought; developed concentration without directed thought and without thought sustained, developed with the concentration ecstasy; developed concentration without ecstasy; develop concentration accompanied by happiness, developing concentration accompanied by equanimity … When Anuruddha, I developed concentration with directed thought and sustained thought to the development … when the concentration accompanied by fairness, knowledge and vision arose in me: 'My release is unshakable, this is my last birth, now there are no more likely to be any condition.'”[16]

    Nanamoli, Bhikkhu (trans.) (1995, ed. Bhikkhu Bodhi). The Middle Length Discourses of the Buddha: A New Translation of the Majjhima Nikaya. Boston: Wisdom Publications. ISBN 0-86171-072-X.
    OMEGAPOINT
    OMEGAPOINT --- ---
    Dhyāna - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dhy%C4%81na
    AIM_FREEMAN
    AIM_FREEMAN --- ---
    OMEGAPOINT: Jo uz to chapem, uz muzes jen Byt a ucit nas tichem.
    AIM_FREEMAN
    AIM_FREEMAN --- ---
    OMEGAPOINT: "nemam rad japonce" nezni jako nejprimarnejsi joga...
    SLAUGHTER
    SLAUGHTER --- ---
    SLAUGHTER
    SLAUGHTER --- ---
    OMEGAPOINT: ano v joze resime jogamatky a v zazenu polstarky pod osvicene zadecky...
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