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    JANDOSZákulisí filmu - Vše co není vidět na plátně, filmové zajímavosti.
    ARAON
    ARAON --- ---
    ARAON: Tak ale kdyz uz tu scenu pitvame, tak mohla byt jeste mnohem zajimavejsi:

    "According to a 1981 interview with the actress, she was initially keen on the idea of her character being naked because it “would have been a nice contrast” to the alien story unfolding before her character.

    “You see the alien’s in its birthday suit the entire film, so I thought it was a cop out having me wear the underwear, and not stripping entirely,” Weaver said.

    After receiving criticism for the strip after the movie’s release, Weaver said it never occurred to her that people might think the strip exploitative, but “having received the mail I have, I would now think twice about taking off all my clothes in a movie”.

    “People have said, ‘Aw, how could you demean yourself by doing a striptease?’ And I say, ‘Are you kidding? After five days of blood and guts, and fear, and sweat and urine, do you think Ripley wouldn’t take off her clothes?’”

    But for Cameron, who took over the helm of the second film in the series, Aliens, the scene simply crossed the line."

    ARAON
    ARAON --- ---
    Jo a jak nekdo poznamenal, Ridley Scott je Brit:

    "This isn't true by the way and the biggest giveaway is Ridley Scott would never call them "panties"

    He would call them knickers."
    VON_GILOTINE
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    ARAON: taky mi to uplne jakoby neprijde, dekuji, ze nejsem sam
    FRK_R23
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    TRAGED: Já jsem jeho knihy četl v mládí v 90s a na to, že je to jasnej nácek jsem přišel sám. Později jsem se v tom jen utvrdil.
    ARAON
    ARAON --- ---
    VON_GILOTINE: Já mám určité pochybnosti o autenticitě tohoto výroku. Už jenom proto, že zaprvé film se blbě airbrushuje a pak taky proto, že je poměrně dost BTS fotek z té scény a nikde nic nekouká. Pokud je výrok autentický, Scott si nejspíš dělal legraci.
    VON_GILOTINE
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    TRAGED: prodim te nesnaz se vysvetlovat a obhajpvat veci ci fenomeny jez se nachazeji hluboko za tvou maximou schopmosti abstrakce.

    Heinlein byl jasnej vetsine uz kdyz vysel stranger in a strange land.

    Tvavargumentace urovne mel rad zviratka nemohl byt zly clovek je zcela dokladajici ze nechapes ani na bazi ceho jsou jeho interni postoje jasne vyvoditelne.
    TRAGED
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    VON_GILOTINE: Hmm, takze po reziserske by to jeste chtelo unretouched edition :-)...
    TRAGED
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    FRK_R23: Co je znamej fakt? Ze RAH zacali po roce 2000 prohlasovat za nacka? Cetli jste jeho knihy, nebo soudite podle dojmu Cancel culure kritiku z internetu? On ma co knihu, to v podstate studii nejekeho jineho utopistickeho zrizeni.
    VON_GILOTINE
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    ARAON
    ARAON --- ---
    TRAGED: “Autor tak vlastně zastává názor, který zároveň vyvrací. To samozřejmě ještě tenkrát vzbudilo rozpaky, nemyslete si.”
    FRK_R23
    FRK_R23 --- ---
    TRAGED: Hele že to z jedné knihy tak nevypadá, na tom nic nemění. Kromě toho je to celkem známej fakt.
    TRAGED
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    SPIKE411: Jo, jasne, takze od 1959 kdz vydal ST, presel od ultraprvice k za 5 let k ultralevici v MotHM, jasne :-) Tyhle rychle soudy podle jednoho dila. A Stephen King je nejspis masovy vrah.
    SPIKE411
    SPIKE411 --- ---
    The Moon Is a Harsh Mistress je z roku 1966 a prej je o libertariánských ideálech. ;)
    SPIKE411
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    TRAGED: Tak zřejmě se jeho názory vyvíjely…
    In truth, Heinlein's shift to the right took place over a decade, from 1948 to 1957. In the early 1950s, the Heinleins travelled around the world. The writer was already a Malthusian and a eugenicist, but the trip greatly exacerbated his demographic despair and xenophobia. "The real problem of the Far East is not that so many of them are communists, but simply that there are so many of them," he wrote in a 1954 travel book (posthumously published in 1992). Even space travel, Heinlein concluded, wouldn't be able to open enough room to get rid of "them." Heinlein treated overpopulation as a personal affront.
    https://gizmodo.com/how-robert-heinlein-went-from-socialist-to-libertarian-1588357827
    TRAGED
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    SPIKE411: To je takovej bullshit. Pokud byl Robert A. Heinlei takvej Ultra pravicak, jak mohl napsat "Mesic je drsna milenka"?
    FRK_R23
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    BOBESH: Neni to spíš Breakfast Club?
    BOBESH
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    Columbo
    PREDSEDA
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    SPIKE411: Amíci jsou máklí, ale líbí se mi ta první část. Dobře že to Verhoeven pojal po svém, protože natočil jeden z nejelpších filmů ve své kategorii. Škoda že pokračování dopadla jak dopadla.
    SPIKE411
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    On this date in 1997, "Starship Troopers" was released in the United States.

    Director Paul Verhoeven admits to have never finished the novel upon which the film is based, claiming he read through the first few chapters and became both bored and depressed, calling it "a very right-wing book" in Empire magazine. He then told screenwriter Edward Neumeier to tell him the rest. Verhoeven and Neumeier then decided that while both the novel and its author Robert A. Heinlein strongly supported a regime led by a military elite, they would turn the concept around and satirize it, making the film a hyperbole of contemporary American politics and culture. Diehard Heinlein fans declare that the filmmakers have completely misinterpreted Heinlein's nature and intentions. They say he was a libertarian who opposed conscription and militarism. He depicted the oligarchy-by-ex-military-citizenry government in the book because it was an example of something that has never been done in real life. He was not advocating it, but was merely speculating that such a system could exist without collapsing.

    Involved with the project since 1990, stop-motion animator Phil Tippett witnessed the screenplay go through many changes. While the script was evolving, the world of visual effects evolved, too, as did the techniques planned to create the alien bugs. Tippett said, "The whole story was completely different in the early '90s... we started thinking about it back then, and mind you this was back in the pre-digital, pre-'Jurassic Park' (1993) days. We considered using traditional model photography, either stop motion or puppetry, and then of course everything changed in 1993 with 'Jurassic Park.'" It was directly after his involvement with "Jurassic Park" that Tippett Studio art director Craig Hayes, Paul Verhoeven, producers Alan Marshall and Jon Davidson, Neumeier, and Tippett got together and started thinking about what the bugs would look like. "After 'Jurrasic,' we generally decided that we could go digital with the bugs."

    Verhoeven and stars Dina Meyer and Casper Van Dien confirmed that Verhoeven and cinematographer Jost Vacano shot the co-ed shower scene in the nude themselves, on a dare from Meyer. On the day of the shoot, Verhoeven had asked the cast to do a little "fashion show without fashion" so that they could get comfortable being naked. When the cast was reluctant to disrobe, Verhoeven asked them what the big deal was, to which Meyer responded, "Paul, if it's no big deal, why don't you do it?" Quite unexpectedly, Verhoeven got undressed, as well as Vacano (who had been raised in a nudity camp). After an initial shock (Van Dien reportedly yelled "Oh God! Dina! Why!?") and a good laugh from the cast, the scene was filmed without problems.

    In a 2014 interview with Empire Magazine, Verhoeven said of the shower scene, "Americans get more upset about nudity than ultra-violence. I am constantly amazed about that. I mean, I haven't seen any sex scenes in American film that are anything other than completely boring. A bare breast is more difficult to get through the censors than a body riddled with bullets."

    In a 2016 interview, Van Dien revealed a funny incident when he was picking up his two daughters from school, "I went by the line at school to pick up my kids. You know, you drive up to the school and when I get there and there are these six 10 and 8 year old boys hanging out with my daughters. I pull up in the line and the boys go, 'Johnny Rico! Why didn't you tell us your dad was Johnny Rico?' And I said, 'What are you boys doing watching 'Starship Troopers'?' And they said, 'Our dads made us watch it with them!' Then my daughters get in the car and my 10-year-old says, 'Dad, were you really naked in 'Starship Troopers'?' And I said, 'Yeah,' and she said, 'How could you do that to me?!' Then my 8-year-old says, 'Wait, like naked naked?' And I said "Yup," and she said, 'Oh my God, my life is ruined!' That was the longest three minute ride home I have had in my life." (IMDb)

    On this date in 1997, "Starship... - Cinema Shorthand Society
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    PETGRIDUS
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