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    BLAMIThe Go Programming Language - moderni programovaci jazyk
    WILD_A
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    WILD_A
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    Go Meetup v praze, http://eventle.com/golang-meetup/5676 agenda jeste neni jasna, ale casu dost, 12.11.2015.
    UETOYO
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    LangNext 2014 (C++, Rust, D, Go)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBbv1ej0fFo
    FOLKEN
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    LITTLELI
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    co se týká generic v Go, tak existuje tenhle dokument, který sumarizuje přístupy použité v jiných jazycích a které jsou na stole. http://goo.gl/lGuidN
    WILD_A
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    REDGUY: par veci z go runtimu je zavislych na OS a HW, konkretne treba management goroutines, tj scheduling, stack management atd. Presny detaily ted z hlavy nevim.
    ISTEVE
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    REDGUY: Neznaje detaily, predpokladal bych neco okolo threadovani nebo memory managementu. Nejlip se zeptat autora? Vypada to, ze na komentare reaguje...
    REDGUY
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    ISTEVE: To jak tam na konci mluvi o "kernel compatibility" - to mysli linuxovej kernel? Na nem Go nejak zasadne zavisi? Nebo nejakej go "runtime" kernel? (zjevne o Go v podstate nic nevim)
    WILD_A
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    ISTEVE: co ti vadi nejvic? jen pro zajimavost. Treba generika mne osobne nechybej nejak moc.
    WILD_A
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    Clanek na to jde imo uplne blbe jelikoz resi neco na co Go neni delany a ja naopak cenim to, ze je to "opinionated language", samozrejme to znamena ze bude hodne tech co budou hejtovat a mit na to dobry naboje. Me v go vadi velmi malo veci, ale je pravda, ze ja jsem zvyklej na C a to urcite hraje roli pac tam si clovek musi zvyknout na mnohem horsi veci :)
    ISTEVE
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    KING: Clanek imho problematiku diskutuje z hodne nevhodnyho uhlu, diskuze o inteligenci programatoru by rozhodne nemela bejt klicovou. Nektery veci ale rozhodne nejsou daleko od pravdy, a to ze Rob Pike furt tvrdi ze Go je opinionated language a odmita spoustu hodne popularnich zlepseni mne dost casto dost sere.
    LITTLELI
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    KING: Nic. Haters gonna hate. Líbí se mi v komentářích co napsal "ndyakov".
    KING
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    Co rikate na tenhle clanek?

    Why Go’s design is a disservice to intelligent programmers | Nomad Software
    http://nomad.so/2015/03/why-gos-design-is-a-disservice-to-intelligent-programmers/
    ISTEVE
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    Fulfilling a Pikedream: the ups of downs of porting 50k lines of C++ to Go. | To:goto To;
    https://togototo.wordpress.com/...ling-a-pikedream-the-ups-of-downs-of-porting-50k-lines-of-c-to-go/

    """
    The tl;dr
    In business terms, the project was a success: completed ahead of schedule, performing acceptably, and less than 10k LOC long (this massive LOC reduction was of course partially due to the removal of features that were deprecated or not needed by the team behind the rewrite). In personal terms however I feel the outcome was suboptimal, in the sense that I wrote two to three times as much code as would have been needed in a language with parametric polymorphism. Some of this was due to type-safety: Go forces a tradeoff to be made between verbosity and type-safety, and I settled somewhere in the middle; it could have used less code and been less type-safe, or used more code and been more type-safe.
    """
    LITTLELI
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    LITTLELI
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    Go Is a Shop-built Jig - Cocoaphony
    http://robnapier.net/go-is-a-shop-built-jig
    ALMAD
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    WILD_A: Maj, ale je rozdil v "nejak to tam v nejaky verzi je" a "celej ekosystem jazyka a knihoven to umi a pocita s tim".
    WILD_A
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    WILD_A: Ja jsem tedy stackless python nikdy nepouzival, ale z toho mala co jsem cetl jsem pochopil, ze maj koncept coroutines a kanalu.
    WILD_A
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    KING: Jasne kanaly jsou velky plus, ale jak uz tady padlo neni to prvni jazyk, ktery to ma a koneckoncu pythonisti maj svuj stackless python ne?
    KING
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    WILD_A: ano, potvrzuji a jeste bych dodal kanaly a zpracovani async do seznamu duvodu
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