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    MYKEZKingdom Come: Deliverance - A first-person, open world, realistic RPG that will take you to Medieval Europe.
    PLOMBDENTIST
    PLOMBDENTIST --- ---
    1 odpověď+6
    PETINY: tak zrovna ministry jsou spis antifasisti
    PETINY
    PETINY --- ---
    5 odpovědí-3
    THESTOUPA: líbí se mi ta přesně se opakující série událostí:
    1) nějaký liberálně smýšlející pisatel se zkouší do KCD obout právě kvůli Vávrovým názorům (což je dle mě z pozice recenzenta hrubě neprofesionální), a druhý pilíř, o který svoje (ne)doporučení opírají je ta donekonečna omílaná, rasová záležitost s minoritama v 15. století.
    2) pod článkem se strhne diskuse v zastoupení zhruba 1:10 v neprospěch názorů recenzenta
    3) článek se šíří na soc.sítích v sémantice "wtf did i just read"
    4) KCD profituje :)


    HONZA09: poslouchal jsem Rammstein a Ministry, ti maj dokonce jeden song, kde 7 minut řvou jenom "sieg h...". Sice nemám jejich tričko, ale byl jsem na jejich koncertě a v 15ti jsem je měl na ploše jako background. Doteď jsem nevěděl, že jsem kovanej nácek, achjo :(
    HONZA09
    HONZA09 --- ---
    ±0
    MLUKS: Když si koupíš tričko kapely, tak jí tou koupí podpoříš. Když si koupíš tričko kapely, kde zpívá nácek, tak podpoříš kapelu, kde zpívá nácek. A když si to tričko vezmeš na Gamescom, tak se nesmíš divit, že si toho lidi všimnou a budou to řešit. Ale třeba měl jenom horečku, co já vim... :D
    JVMLOK
    JVMLOK --- ---
    1 odpověď+4
    GANDHI: ocividne si spletl Jantarovou a Hedvabnou stezku
    LA_PIOVRA
    LA_PIOVRA --- ---
    ±0
    MLUKS: ne, to znamena, ze kdo nosi tricko Burzum a prezentuje se fasounskymi nazory, s velkou pravdepodobnosti...
    PLOMBDENTIST
    PLOMBDENTIST --- ---
    1 odpověď+3
    HONZA09: ale jo, o tom, ze je varg vikernes zmrd a vavra taky (bez ohledu na triko podporuje stranu svobodnych) nepochybuju..
    MLUKS
    MLUKS --- ---
    2 odpovědi±0
    HONZA09: Takže když poslouchám Rammstein a dokonce i Lindemannovo solo album (což fakt poslouchám), tak sdílím i jeho levicové názory? Ale no tak :)
    HONZA09
    HONZA09 --- ---
    4 odpovědi-7
    Ok, ale tohle je fakt a imho to stačí na to udělat si o Vávrovi obrázek, že to je debil sympatizující s náckama.

    More recently, he wore the same T-shirt depicting an album cover by the band Burzum every day at Gamescom 2017 - a very visible time for him and his game. Burzum is the work of one man: Vars Vikernes, a convicted murderer and outspoken voice on racial purity and supremacy. He even identified as a Nazi for a while.
    VIRIK
    VIRIK --- ---
    +1
    DEEFHA: tam je odkazů na český filmy i hry nebo písně a vůbec spoustu věcí plná prdel. A nejen na český. Na jednom místě mám pocit jsem slyšel větu i z "S čerty nejsou žerty".
    GANDHI
    GANDHI --- ---
    1 odpověď+8
    "Czech cities Olomouc and Prague were on the famous Silk Road " - tohle je tak trochu bullshit, protože iirc Silk Road vedla z Ciny a Orientu do Constantinopole a odtamtud po mori prevazne do Recka a Italie
    CLAVEN
    CLAVEN --- ---
    1 odpověď+10
    THESTOUPA: Môj názor na Vávru tu už bol myslím prezentovaný dostatočne dôkladne, ale je pravda, že vyčítať hre, ktorá sa odohráva vo veľmi úzkom výseku jak populácie, tak geografie Čiech 15. storočia, že v nej nie sú černosi, to je naozaj na hlavu.
    PLOMBDENTIST
    PLOMBDENTIST --- ---
    +10
    THESTOUPA: "But there's also a big problem.O vavrovi si nemyslím nic dobrýho, ale tohle je neuveřitelně trapný
    GANDHI
    GANDHI --- ---
    DUBAS_: Necronomicon
    DEEFHA
    DEEFHA --- ---
    1 odpověď+1
    DUBAS_: V jednom z dialogů Tereza zmiňuje, že s otcem chodili do Hospody Na mýtince (v českých titulcích, v anglickém dabingu jsem nechytil jak to je). Čili Cimrman?
    GURBON
    GURBON --- ---
    CLAVEN: to mas jeste dobry, me se pri tyhle scene posadili oba panove do sebe takze jsem mel dvouhlavyho mutanta.
    THESTOUPA
    THESTOUPA --- ---
    4 odpovědi
    V recenzi na Eurogameru resi cernochy, Vavru a tak...

    Kingdom Come: Deliverance review - history is a double-edged sword • Eurogamer.net
    http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2018-02-20-kingdom-come-deliverance-review

    But there's also a big problem. There are no people of colour in the game beyond people from the Cuman tribe, a Turkic people from the Eurasian Steppe. The question is, should there be? The game's makers say they've done years of research and found no conclusive proof there should be, but a historian I spoke to, who specialises in the area, disagrees.

    "We know of African kings in Constantinople on pilgrimage to Spain; we know of black Moors in Spain; we know of extensive travel of Jews from the courts of Cordoba and Damascus; we also know of black people in large cities in Germany," the historian, Sean Miller, tells me. Czech cities Olomouc and Prague were on the famous Silk Road which facilitated the trade of goods all over the world. If you plot a line between them, it runs directly through the area recreated in Kingdom Come. "You just can't know nobody got sick and stayed a longer time," he says. "What if a group of black Africans came through and stayed at an inn and someone got pregnant? Even one night is enough for a pregnancy."

    It's not conclusive proof but it's readily available doubt to undermine Warhorse's interpretation. What muddies the water further is whose interpretation it overridingly is: creative director, writer and Warhorse co-founder Daniel Vavra's. He has been a vocal supporter of GamerGate and involved in antagonistic exchanges on Twitter (collected in a ResetEra thread). More recently, he wore the same T-shirt depicting an album cover by the band Burzum every day at Gamescom 2017 - a very visible time for him and his game. Burzum is the work of one man: Vars Vikernes, a convicted murderer and outspoken voice on racial purity and supremacy. He even identified as a Nazi for a while.

    This isn't to say Kingdom Come: Deliverance is a hotbed of racism, because it isn't. The Turkic Cumans speak a different language and are a hostile enemy, which seems like a limited portrayal but no less so than any other war game I can think of. Then again, I'm white, so maybe I've missed things. And racism can take many forms, one of them being exclusion.

    More apparent to me was the back-slapping laddishness revolving around bedding women. I'm pursuing a love story over here, while over there bedding a noble and having one-night stands. That's in addition to my Troubadour perk which makes me even more irresistible to women and lets me use the "bathwenches" for free, which ties into a key mechanic of keeping yourself clean and patched up. It also means I get the Alpha Male buff (+2 to Charisma) because I've been satisfied and apparently it shows. It literally says that. The game's Codex even feels the need to describe the ideal woman of the time: "a thin, pale woman with long blonde hair, small rounded breasts, relatively narrow hips and a narrow waist".

    All of which means that a shadow lingers over Kingdom Come: Deliverance. Instead of challenging the Dark Age it reinterprets 615 years later, the game seems to delight in it. Instead of seeing notes in the margin of a history book, we get what feels like a glossy pamphlet advertising an escape into an oddly romanticised past. And it's that, ultimately, which makes me too uneasy about Warhorse's work to be able to recommend it.
    DFOJTIK
    DFOJTIK --- ---
    DUBAS_: kun Hatatitla - Vinetou
    DUBAS_
    DUBAS_ --- ---
    3 odpovědi
    nasel nekdo nejake zajimave eastereegy?
    ja o cem vim je
    kobyla klepna
    witcher skill
    byk
    GANDHI
    GANDHI --- ---
    btw> Toinda Winch funguje spravne? myslim tim tu odmenu od nej - prijde mi to jako docela overkill:)
    CLAVEN
    CLAVEN --- ---
    +6
    NE7RA: Lebo ma ruší EN zvuk a CZ titulky. Keby to malo CZ dabing, hrám to v češtine.
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