tak jeste neco k tomu fightu v Koloseu (konverzace Fridman - Huberman) (Lex je oba trenuje a ma asi vhled do toho)

- So is that fight between Elon and Zuck actually gonna happen?
- I think Elon is a huge believer of this idea of the most entertaining outcomes is the most likely.
And he almost like, there's almost the sense that there's not a free will and the universe
has a kinda deterministic gravitational field pulling towards the most fun and he's just a player in that game.
So from that perspective, I think it seems like something like that is inevitable.
- Like a little scrap in the parking lot of a Facebook or something like that. - Exactly. - Sorry, Meta. - Yeah. - But it looks like they're training for real, and Zuck has competed right in jiu-jitsu? - So I think he is approaching it as a sport.

Elon is approaching it as a spectacle. And I mean, the way he talks about it,
he's a huge fan of history. He talks about all the warriors that have fought throughout history. If you look, he wants to really do it at the Colosseum.

And you know, the Colosseum is for 400 years, there's so many, so much great writing about this.
I think over 400,000 people have died in the Colosseum, Gladiators. So this is this historic place that sheds so much blood,
so much fear, so much anticipation of battle, all of this. So he loves this kinda spectacle.

And also, the meme of it, the hilarious absurdity of it, that two tech CEOs battling it out on sand
in a place where gladiators fought to the death and then bears and lion ate prisoners
as part of the execution process.

- Well, it's also gonna be an instance where Mark Zuckerberg and Elon Musk
gets to change bodily fluids. If they bleed, there's one thing's about fighting, you know? I think it was in that book,
it's a great book "Fighter's Heart," where he talks about, you know, the sort of the intimacy of sparring.
I only rolled jiu-jitsu with you once, but there was a period of time where I boxed and which I don't recommend.
I got hit, I hit some guys and definitely got hit back. I'd spar on Wednesday nights when I lived on San Diego.
And you know, when you spar with somebody, even if they hurt you, especially if they hurt you,
you know, you see that person afterwards and there's an intimacy, right? It was in that book "Fire's Heart" where he explains,
you know, you're exchanging bodily fluids with a stranger, right? And you're in your primitive mind,
and so there's an intimacy there that persists, so.
- You go together through a process of fear, anxiety, like-
- Yeah, when they get you, you nod. I mean, you watch somebody like catch somebody if, you know, not so much in professional fighting,
but if people are sparring that they catch you, you acknowledge that they caught you, like you got me there.

PALEONTOLOG: Na pravou miru tady uvadim veci docela casto naopak a co se tyce naceneni twitteru, tak tam to jako podnikatel a investor beru z podnikatelskyho hlediska, kdy je pro me daleko lepsi Zdenek Cendra a jeho CDN/supernerwork nebo Pepa Prusa s tiskarnama, kteri maj firmy bez dluhu a rust platej ze svejch zisku. Takovejch firem je plno a pak jsou firmy jako byla treba Rezabova socialbakers nebo Smidovo Twisto, ktere jsou zadluzene az beda, zebraji penize od investoru..jsou furt ve ztrate a navic jsou debilne ekonomicky rizene a jejich jedinou snahou je ukousnout si co nejrychleji nejakym hodobozo produktem nebo sluzbou co nejvetsi marketshare a nez se zjisti, ze je to cele napicu a takhle ta firma nemuze dlouhodobe fungovat, tak se snazej najit nejakyho hejla, kterej tu firmu za prepal koupi, takze ja se muzu podivat treba na Zuckovu metu..jaky ma revenue a jak vydelava za poslednich 13 let. Jasne..Zuck pali plno prachu v metaversu, ale i tak ta firma je v plusu..No a pak si to srovnas s twitterem..a klidne se tu semnou muzes hadat o tom, ze to neni problem a ze byl Twitter rizenej manazersky skvele a kazdej z tech 8000 zamestnancu tam byl platnej, ale ja jako investor v tech cislech vidim docela velkej rozdil a bejt treba Muskem, tak radsi zaplatim miliardu pokutu a z toho dealu vycouvam, nebo chci treba 10-15 miliard slevu nez koupit za 44 miliard firmu, ktera je takhle moc v pici.

marc andreesseen (e/acc) na téma proč elon elon. přijde mi to podobné jak to beru já (tažen vizí na sedm generací dopředu, ale zároveň work etika a obecně systém fungování z 19. století (čeká od lidí 80 hodin týdně, který dává sám taky). lídr kultu pro inženýry a nerdy. plus jsou tam vtipné momenty, které jsem vytučnila

I mean look I think Elon is I don't
think I'm even a great example but I
think Elon would be the great example of
this which is like you know look he's a
guy who from every every day of his life
from the day he started making money at
all he just Plows in the into the next
thing
um and so I think I think money is
definitely an enabler for satisfaction
money applied to happiness leads people
down very dark paths yeah
very destructive Avenues uh money
applied to satisfaction I think could be
it is a real tool

um I always by the way I was like you
know Elon is the case study for Behavior
but the other thing that it's always
really made me think is Larry Larry Page
was asked one time what his approach to
philanthropy was and he said oh I'm just
my my philanthropic plan is just give
all the money to Elon
right uh well let me actually ask you
about Elon what are your

um you've interacted with quite a lot of
successful engineers and business people
what do you think is special about Elon
we talked about Steve Jobs What uh
what do you think is special about him
as a leader as an innovator

yeah so the
the core of it is he's a he's he's back
to the future so he he is he is doing
the most Leading Edge things in the
world but with a with a really deeply
old school approach

um and so to find comparisons to Elon
you need to go to like Henry Ford and
Thomas Watson and Howard Hughes and
Andrew Carnegie right um Leila Stanford
um John D Rockefeller right you need to
go to the what we're called the
Bourgeois capitalist it's like the
hardcore business owner operators who
basically built you know basically built
industrialized Society
um Vanderbilt um

and it's a level of

Hands-On commitments
um and uh depth um in the business
um coupled with an absolute priority uh
towards truth um and towards
um how to put Science and Technology uh
time to First principles that is just
like absolutely it was just like
unbelievably absolute he really is ideal
that he's only ever talking to Engineers
like he does not tolerate yes
let's anybody I've ever met
um he wants ground truth on every single
topic

um and he runs his businesses directly
day to day devoted to getting to ground
truth in every single topic so uh

you think it was a good decision for him
to buy Twitter?

I have developed a view
in life did not second guess Elon Musk :-)

I know this is going to sound great
crazy and unfounded but well I mean uh
he's got a quite a track record I mean
look the car was a crazy I mean the car
was I mean look he's done a lot of
things that seem crazy starting a new
car company in the United States of
America the last time somebody really
tried to do that was the 1950s and it
was called Tucker automotive and it was
such a disaster they made a movie about
what a disaster it was :-)

um and then Rockets like who does that
like that's there's obviously no way to
start a rocket company like those days
are over and then to do those at the
same time

so after he pulled those two off like
okay fine like like this is one of my
areas of like whatever opinions I had
about that is just like okay clearly or
not relevant like this is you just you
at some point you just like bet on the
person and in general

I wish more people
would lean on celebrating and supporting
versus deriding and destroying oh yeah

I
mean look he drives resentment like it's
like he is a magnet for resentment

um like his critics are the most
miserable like resentful people in the
world like it's almost a perfect match
of like the most idealized you know
technologists you know of the century
coupled with like just his critics are
just bitter as can be I mean it's it's I
mean it's it's sort of very Darkly uh
comic to watch
well he uh he fuels the fire of that by
being an asshole on Twitter at times

and
which is fascinating to watch the drama
of human civilization given our cult
roots just fully on fire

he's running a cult
say that very successfully

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Zou_BozkLo