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    TUHOKlimaticka zmena / Thank you so much for ruining my day


    "Given the sheer enormity of climate change, it’s okay to be depressed, to grieve. But please, don’t stay there too long. Join me in pure, unadulterated, righteous anger."


    "I don’t want your hope. I don’t want you to be hopeful. I want you to panic. I want you to feel the fear I feel every day. And then I want you to act. Once you start to act, the hope is everywhere."

    "Our best scientists tell us insistently that a calamity is unfolding, that the life-support systems of the Earth are being damaged in ways that threaten our survival. Yet in the face of these facts we carry on as usual."

    “We’ve got to stop burning fossil fuels. So many aspects of life depend on fossil fuels, except for music and love and education and happiness. These things, which hardly use fossil fuels, are what we must focus on.”

    A nejde o to, že na to nemáme dostatečné technologie, ty by na řešení použít šly, ale chybí nám vůle a představivost je využít. Zůstáváme při zemi, přemýšlíme až moc rezervovaně. Technologický pokrok to sám o sobě nevyřeší. Problém jsme my, ne technologické nástroje.

    Rostouci hladiny oceanu, zmena atmosferickeho proudeni, zmeny v distribuci srazek a sucha. Zmeny karbonoveho, fosforoveho a dusikoveho cyklu, okyselovani oceanu. Jake jsou bezpecnostni rizika a jake potencialni klady dramatickych zmen fungovani zemskeho systemu?
    Ale take jak funguji masove dezinformacni kampane ropneho prumyslu a boj o verejne mineni na prahu noveho klimatickeho rezimu post-holocenu.
    rozbalit záhlaví
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    KEB: myslis tim "diky ze ses delala s anketou abychom se dozvedeli jak to kdo vidi" ...?
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    LINKOS: protože je to frikulin...
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    YMLADRIS: proč to musí být anglicky?
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    Over 5,600 fossil fuel companies have taken at least $3bn in US Covid-19 aid | Environment | The Guardian
    https://www.theguardian.com/...ironment/2020/jul/07/fossil-fuel-industry-coronavirus-aid-us-analysis
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    Pálení uhlí dlouho představovalo nejlevnější způsob výroby elektrické energie. Nicméně dnes není uhlí ani nejlevnější, ani nejekologičtější. Přesto většinu světové elektřiny stále produkují uhelné elektrárny.

    Uhlí se dostalo do bodu zlomu, finančně už se nevyplatí
    https://www.czechsight.cz/uhli-se-dostalo-do-bodu-zlomu/
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    Covid-19 and climate change: Why we need to remember what we’ve lost - Vox
    https://www.vox.com/...t/2020/7/7/21311027/covid-19-climate-change-global-warming-shifting-baselines
    “There is a tremendous amount of research showing that we tend to adapt to circumstances if they are constant over time, even if they are gradually worsening,” says George Loewenstein, a professor of economics and psychology at Carnegie Mellon.
    ...
    What if Americans simply accommodate themselves to thousands of coronavirus deaths a day? As writer Charlie Warzel noted in a recent column, it’s not that different from the numbness they now feel in the face of gun violence. “Unsure how — or perhaps unable — to process tragedy at scale,” he writes, “we get used to it.”
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    KEB: jasny. pardon. u te minule ankety jsem zas zapomnela odpoved "desperate" :-( takze kdo jste nejvic ze vseho desperate, dejte pls treba lajk sem
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    YMLADRIS: nedokážu to posoudit tak jsem dal to poskedni, příště tam dej možnost nevím :-)
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    Váš názor na free market

    20 hlasy od 20 respondentů

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      Váš názor na klima

      21 hlasy od 21 respondentů

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        YMLADRIS: NAGASAWA, SUMAC, co to jako je to EZLN (bod 10a), nejaci opravdovi ekoteroristi? Vedeli byste?
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        Klima se měnilo vždy, ale nikdy globálně. Kdyby nebylo člověka, změna neprobíhá, říká klimatolog | Radiožurnál
        https://radiozurnal.rozhlas.cz/...dy-ale-nikdy-globalne-kdyby-nebylo-cloveka-zmena-neprobiha-8244828
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        Hayhoe je Ačova oblibena klimatolozka. FB ted blokuje jeji klimaticky videa, z duvodu "politické téma"

        Climate Denial Spreads on Facebook as Scientists Face Restrictions - Scientific American
        https://www.scientificamerican.com/...te-denial-spreads-on-facebook-as-scientists-face-restrictions/
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        Omezování lidí nefunguje, pro řešení klimatické krize potřebujeme pozitivní vizi, shodují se Krajhanzl a Novák | Radio Wave
        https://wave.rozhlas.cz/...-nefunguje-pro-reseni-klimaticke-krize-potrebujeme-pozitivni-vizi-8245593
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        YMLADRIS: The argumentation patterns of climate action preventers

        The argumentation patterns of climate action preventers - Mercator Research Institute on Global Commons and Climate Change (MCC)
        https://www.mcc-berlin.net/...l/article/the-argumentation-patterns-of-climate-action-preventers.html

        Too expensive, pointless, and others should do more: a new study sheds light on the excuses for doing nothing that circulate in the public debate on global warming.


        Yellow vests protests in Paris (archive picture): According to the study, the claim that climate protection would overburden the socially weak is only one of a total of twelve argumentation patterns. | Photo: Shutterstock/N. Economou

        01.07.2020


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        The Dragons of Inaction: Psychological Barriers That Limit Climate Change Mitigation and Adaptation

        (PDF) The Dragons of Inaction: Psychological Barriers That Limit Climate Change Mitigation and Adaptation
        https://www.researchgate.net/...logical_Barriers_That_Limit_Climate_Change_Mitigation_and_Adaptation

        Most people think climate change and sustainability are important problems, but too few global citizens engaged in high-greenhouse-gas-emitting behavior are engaged in enough mitigating behavior to stem the increasing flow of greenhouse gases and other environmental problems. Why is that? Structural barriers such as a climate-averse infrastructure are part of the answer, but psychological barriers also impede behavioral choices that would facilitate mitigation, adaptation, and environmental sustainability. Although many individuals are engaged in some ameliorative action, most could do more, but they are hindered by seven categories of psychological barriers, or "dragons of inaction": limited cognition about the problem, ideological worldviews that tend to preclude pro-environmental attitudes and behavior, comparisons with key other people, sunk costs and behavioral momentum, discredence toward experts and authorities, perceived risks of change, and positive but inadequate behavior change. Structural barriers must be removed wherever possible, but this is unlikely to be sufficient. Psychologists must work with other scientists, technical experts, and policymakers to help citizens overcome these psychological barriers.

        (...)

        Limited cognition Ancient brainIgnoranceEnvironmental numbnessUncertaintyJudgmental discountingOptimism biasPerceived behavioral control/self-efficacyIdeologies WorldviewsSuprahuman powersTechnosalvationSystem justificationComparisons with others Social comparisonSocial norms and networksPerceived inequitySunk costs Financial investmentsBehavioral momentumConflicting values, goals, andaspirationsDiscredence MistrustPerceived programinadequacyDenialReactancePerceived risks FunctionalPhysicalFinancialSocialPsychologicalTemporalLimited behavior TokenismRebound effect

        (sorry nechce se mi preformatovavat)
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        YMLADRIS: komentar na to od nekoho (noname clovek)

        Eric Wright I’m gonna run down each level and give my opinion on that. ty for opening up discussion
        1: seems accurate, but overlap happens in people who profess not to be conservative as well (usually deep red-blackpills such as those who subscribe to Q-anon theories and flat-earthers)
        2: accurate; examples are typically far-right pundits
        3: typical conservative thinking, the wording they may have objection to (small gov focused; gov must be small and only to serve to get out of the way of economy)
        4: mainstream independent or right-leaning ideology, can bleed into typical US or UK liberal ideology, antivaxxers have a general skepticism for science but will also accept most of this
        5: common centrist/technocratic thought, see elon musk, bill nye, neil degrasse tyson
        6: left leaning US/UK/Aus liberal thought, still technocratic but more interested in regulation and understanding capitalism has direct responsibility to climate change
        7: common climate advocacy with strong political left bias. the earliest entry point in accepting ideas more radical than theirs.
        8: cut-off point for centrist/technocratic thought to accept climate change solutions, and cut-off point for reform standards while maintaining extant governance before radical dismantling/reconstruction. First point of radical change and a useful platform to tow the line for climate advocacy
        9: radical green-pill; advocating for a complete revolution of society. entertains misanthropic and doomer tendencies, but does not fully embrace them. often anarcho-primitivist. deep exploration of anti-industrial solutions
        10: climate defeatism focused on individualist ideology conditioned from western thought, readily accepts misanthropic tendencies such as ‘humans are the virus’. Ironically can share overlap with 1: based on suspicion, distrust and paranoia. entry level for eco-fascism

        with that said, from my own expereince I’d like to offer a parallel breakdown starting at 9:
        9a: climate change is responsible for a mass extinction event, but not necessarily guaranteed extinction of all species (or even just humans alone). Does not really concern themselves with the outcome but rather what they can do within an organizational, communal and well researched capacity to effect as much solutions as possible to mitigate damage. Makes efforts to appear legitimate while working towards 10a (see Earth First!, ELF, XR)
        10a: a well organized group proactively making dramatic changes against forces that exacerbate climate change. Utilize radical militant tactics to dismantle accereration and force degrowth. Considered a terrorist threat by many governments. Often incorporating indigenous sovereignty in their tactics (see EZLN)
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        GasNet uvedl do provozu první mobilní samoobslužnou čerpací stanici na LNG v ČR
        https://oenergetice.cz/plyn/gasnet-uvedl-provozu-prvni-mobilni-samoobsluznou-cerpaci-stanici-lng-cr
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        O změně klimatu a o potřebě na něj reagovat se mluví už roky, emise skleníkových plynů a degradace lesů však pokračují, jak zmiňují mnozí odborníci. A další se zase pozastavují nad tím, jestli tedy ve skutečnosti nejde jen o předstírání řešení problémů nebo koncepce, které nikam nevedou.

        „Já neumím posoudit, jestli to je předstírání řešení problému,“ reaguje Tolasz, nicméně klimatologie má v tom podle něho jasno už minimálně třicet let. „Říká, že musíme řešit situaci, a situace se dlouhodobě globálně neřeší, protože globální emise stoupají, a krajina trpí a máme menší takzvané propady skleníkových plynů. Už třicet let víme, že bychom měli něco dělat, globálně se ale neděje nic a Evropa sama to nevytrhne,“ konstatuje Tolasz.

        Souhlasí sice s tím, že může být považováno za smutné, že daleko větší mediální pozornost si vyslouží v souvislosti s klimatem Greta Thunbergová, ať už v negativním, nebo pozitivním slova smyslu, než politici, kteří by opravdu toto téma řešit měli. Nicméně dodává, že se možná ale i díky tomu teď třeba podaří aktivistům to, co se vědcům nepodařilo za zmíněných třicet let.

        Koronavirus může pomoct ke změně. Pokud si uvědomíme, že se lze chovat jinak, říká klimatolog — ČT24 — Česká televize
        https://ct24.ceskatelevize.cz/...muze-pomoct-ke-zmene-pokud-si-uvedomime-ze-se-lze-chovat-jinak-rika
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        Review: An Archdruid's Tales by John Michael Greer - Resilience
        https://www.resilience.org/stories/2020-07-06/review-an-archdruids-tales-by-john-michael-greer/

        John Michael Greer is a longtime scholar of civilizational decline, and he’s noticed that when most people try to make sense of our current civilization’s inevitable fall, they succumb to an odd fallacy. A fair number of those who accept the impermanence of modern industrial society somehow seem to expect its demise to be abrupt and to conclude within their lifetimes, despite all the historical evidence showing civilizational decline to be gradual. To Greer, this expectation of sudden doom has an obvious emotional appeal, namely the fact that it absolves one from having to do something about humanity’s crisis. When you believe the world is just about to go up in one big, spectacular explosion, what’s the point in changing the way you live in an effort to reduce your burden on the planet? This same logic drives those who believe in a future of perpetual betterment: If you think everything is going to work out fine, there’s likewise no use in taking action.

        In his anthology An Archdruid’s Tales, Greer seeks to use fiction, together with a few nonfiction forays into future scenarios, as a means of painting a more accurate picture of what lies ahead for industrial civilization.
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