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    TUHOKlimaticka zmena / Thank you so much for ruining my day
    YMLADRIS
    YMLADRIS --- ---
    SHEFIK: "další injekce budou mít pravidla pro investice do klimatu" .. to máš dobrý. přemýšlím kdy jsem přestala věřit že stávající struktury mocenské začnou fakt něco dělat, když průzkumy mínění ukazují, že veřejnost pochopila problém ... asi jak byl summit v NY. nestalo se nic. nevidím proč by mělo teď, nevidím ten novej prvek. hořící Kalifornie to není. ale tak přeju ti tu naději
    SHEFIK
    SHEFIK --- ---
    TADEAS: je to tak, jenze je potreba vzit v uvahu, ze krom green dealu v evrope (a mozna par dalsich mensich ve svete) ty statni/dotacni penize na klima ani nikdy urceny nebyly, jsou urceny max na recovery z covidu (zatim), a proto se to cely takhle deformuje (zaroven chybi porad ten globalni klima regulacni ramec)

    kdyby varoufakis nechtel se svym GND vytvorit dalsi obrovskej byrokratickej aparat, kterej jednak spolkne velkou cast techto investicnich penez jen na jejich prerozdelovani a administrativu a jednak celej proces zpomali, tak bych mu i fandil

    ...a to emitovani se driv nebo pozdejc projevi. cim hloupejc je promrhame, tim nas to bude v budoucnu vic bolet, at uz inflaci, splaskavanim bublin, krachem firem, nezamestnanosti apod.

    ja osobne doufam, ze dalsi schvaleny financni injekce uz budou mit pravidla spojeny s investici do klimatu. to by mohlo hodne pomoct a takova investice se nikdy neztrati. bylo by to v obecne rovine navysovani kapitalu, pro budouci generace
    TADEAS
    TADEAS --- ---
    SHEFIK: varoufakis prave rika, ze ty bailoutovy a levny penize prave nejsou pouzivany k odpovidajicim investicim, ale k dalsimu podporeni ty financializace, coz vede k temhle bizar fenomenum, kdy trzni/financnicka realita neodpovida tomu, co se deje celkove ve spolecnosti. tzn. neni to podle nej primarne o tom, ze je emitovany velky mnozstvi penez, ale o tom, ze nejdou do realne potrebnejch investic a transformace na bezemisni infrastrukturu.
    KEB
    KEB --- ---
    SHEFIK: to co vždycky, když revoluce začne žrát své děti.
    TUHO
    TUHO --- ---
    V posledních měsících vznikla řada pro Českou republiku relevantních studií předkládajících různé pohledy na možné dekarbonizační trajektorie.
    Ve spolupráci s Výborem pro záležitosti Evropské unie Senátu Parlamentu ČR se uskuteční expertní kulatý stůl shrnující klíčové výstupy existujících studií a stejně tak i metodologická východiska, což umožní srovnání různých přístupů v širší perspektivě. To vše s přihlédnutím k očekávanému zvýšení evropských i českých emisních cílů do roku 2030.
    ▶️ Úvodní slovo:
    Václav Hampl, předseda Výboru pro záležitosti EU Senátu ČR
    ▶️ S příspěvky vystoupí:
    Miroslav Lopour, Deloitte
    Lukáš Minařík, Ministerstvo životního prostředí
    Oldřich Sklenář, Fakta o klimatu
    Jáchym Srb, Asociace pro mezinárodní otázky/Association for International Affairs
    Milan Ščasný, Univerzita Karlova
    Kristina Zindulková, Asociace pro mezinárodní otázky/Association for International Affairs
    Akce bude streamována na Facebooku AMO. Zobrazit míň

    https://www.facebook.com/events/586403625370270/
    TUHO
    TUHO --- ---
    The situation today in California isn’t yet quite as grim, although this week CalFire advised every citizen of the state — all 40 million of them — to be prepared to evacuate. Already, more than 100,000 already have. Over just the last seven days, 700,000 acres have burned in California — a number that would have been, in recent memory, a historically devastating year of fire. In just five days, more land has been burned than in all of 2019, and 500,000 of those acres are in and around the Bay Area. There, the Lightning Complex — in wildfire terminology, “complex” is when multiple blazes join forces — has alone burned 200,000 acres and is, at present, zero percent contained. The Complex could burn as many as a million acres, it’s been suggested—the state’s first “gigafire.” The lightning storms that set it off simultaneously ignited so many other wildfires the state authorities couldn’t keep track of all of them, just the 376 most significant ones. All told, more than ten thousand lightning strikes were recorded in a single day; the week saw 560 wildfires start. Big Basin Redwoods State Park has been burned through, prompting a conservation group to write, “We are devastated to report that Big Basin, as we have known it, loved it, and cherished it for generations, is gone.” These trees are between 800 and 1,500 years old. Some of them, older than Muhammad, had stood for a thousand years by the time Europeans first set foot in North America. The youngest of them are older than the Black Death, and precede the invention of the printing press by centuries. Reports yesterday had them “scorched but still standing.”

    Climate Change Has Led To Extreme Wildfires In California
    https://nymag.com/...ligencer/2020/08/climate-change-has-led-to-extreme-wildfires-in-california.html
    SHEFIK
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    TUHO: to co se ted deje na trzich je fakt zvlastni a jedinecny. ale je to zpusobeny uvolnovanim penez a drzenim urokovych mer na minimu, aby lide nesetrili, utraceli a nezadreli se kola ekonomiky. u koronaviru je specificka situace, ze to nezasahlo vsechny rovnomerne, ale jen urcite casti obyvatelstva dle povolani. takze nekdo stale ma penize na pumpovani do trhu a posiluje tak rust akcii (+ novej fenomen Robinhood - parcialni akcie ihned z mobilu pro kohokoliv) a pak jsou na druhy strane ty co praci ztratili a pobiraj zatim davky. nuzky se dost rozeviraj :(

    obava je, aby neprisla podobna velka deprese, jako v usa, ktera na desetileti zpusobila snizeni kvality zivota vsech, nebo financni krize z 2007. otazkou je zda a jak dlouho je soucasnej stav udrzitelny. imho trhy padnou, jakmile pridou vysledky za Q3, nejpozdejc za Q4 a srovnaj se s realnou ekonomikou.

    podobna hospodarska krize by totiz neprospela ani lidstvu, ani klimatu, protoze by chybely penize jakykoliv investice a kazdej by se staral jen o svuj holej zadek a aktualni preziti

    Velká hospodářská krize – Wikipedie
    https://cs.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Velk%C3%A1_hospod%C3%A1%C5%99sk%C3%A1_krize

    nema to ale nic moc spolecneho se zaklady kapitalismu. ten problem tkvi v ziti na dluh a to se delo i za komunismu
    TUHO
    TUHO --- ---
    Two tropical systems expected to reach the Gulf of Mexico by early next week could simultaneously become hurricanes in an unprecedented event.
    Meteorologists say residents from Texas to Florida need to prepare for Tropical Storm Laura and Tropical Depression Fourteen, as they could impact the region in the coming days.
    "We could be looking at two landfalls in a matter of just a day or two of each other at the beginning to middle part of next week, which is really unprecedented when you are talking about potentially two hurricanes in the Gulf of Mexico," said CNN Meteorologist Jennifer Gray.
    The storms haven't yet entered the Gulf of Mexico but could intensify rapidly when they do. As of Friday evening, Gray says, there's still a lot of uncertainty.


    https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/21/weather/atlantic-tropical-development-forecast-friday/index.html
    SHEFIK
    SHEFIK --- ---
    TUHO
    TUHO --- ---
    Two days ago, something extraordinary happened. Something that has never happened before in the history of capitalism. In Britain, the news came out that the economy had suffered its greatest slump ever – more than 22% down during the first 7 months of 2020. Remarkably, on the same day, the London Stock Exchange, the FTSE100 index, rose by more than 2%. On the same day, during a time America has ground to a halt and is beginning to look like not just as an economy in deep trouble but also, ominously, as a failed state, Wall Street’s SP500 index hit an all-time record.

    ...

    The decoupling of the financial markets from the real economy, that was the trigger for this talk, is a sure sign that something we may defensibly label postcapitalism is already underway.
    My difference with fellow lefties is that I do not believe there is any guarantee that what follows capitalism – let’s call it, for want of a better term, postcapitalism – will be better. It may well be utterly dystopic, judging by present phenomena. In the short term, to avoid the worst, the minimum necessary change that we need is an International Green New Deal that, beginning with a massive restructuring of public and private debts, uses public financial tools to press the oodles of existing liquidity (e.g. funds driving up money markets) into public service (e.g. a green energy revolution).

    The problem we face is not merely that our oligarchic regimes will fight tooth and nail against any such program. An even harder-to-crack problem is that an International Green New Deal, of the sort alluded to above, may be a necessary condition but is, most certainly, not a sufficient condition to create a future for humanity worth striving for. Can we imagine what may prove sufficient? My controversial parting shot is that, for postcapitalism to be both genuine and humanist, we need to deny private banks their raison d’être, and to terminate, with one move, two markets: the market for labour and the share market.
    Fully aware of how difficult it is to imagine a technologically advanced economy lacking share and labour markets, I wrote my forthcoming book Another Now – in which I lay out the argument that terminating labour and share markets, along with the type of commercial banking taken for granted today, is a prerequisite for a postcapitalist society with functioning markets, authentic democracy and personal liberty.

    https://www.yanisvaroufakis.eu/...ed-up-the-passage-to-postcapitalism-lannan-institute-virtual-talk/
    TUHO
    TUHO --- ---
    TUHO
    TUHO --- ---
    Kalifornie je dobre v hajzlu :(

    Fires are raging up and down California, sparked by a combination of record heat and nearly 11,000 lightning strikes over 72 hours—a "lightning siege"—as officials have called it. On Tuesday, Gov. Gavin Newsom blamed the new reality of extreme weather on climate change and declared a state of emergency. Since then, the situation has gotten worse, with fires growing in number and size.The acreage burned and evacuations ordered have been changing so rapidly that they become outdated within hours after being reported.

    ‘Is This Real Life?’ A Wall of Fire Robs a Russian River Town of its Nonchalance | InsideClimate News
    https://insideclimatenews.org/news/20082020/wildfire-california-climate-change-heat-lightning
    TUHO
    TUHO --- ---
    TUHO: Kiss the Ground reveals that, by regenerating the world’s soils, we can completely and rapidly stabilize Earth’s climate, restore lost ecosystems and create abundant food supplies. Using compelling graphics and visuals, along with striking NASA and NOAA footage, the film artfully illustrates how, by drawing down atmospheric carbon, soil is the missing piece of the climate puzzle.
    This movie is positioned to catalyze a movement to accomplish the impossible – to solve humanity’s greatest challenge, to balance the climate and secure our species future.
    TUHO
    TUHO --- ---
    Dokument o regenerativnim hospodareni

    Kiss the Ground - Official Film Trailer (2020)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3-V1j-zMZw&feature=youtu.be
    GOJATLA
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    SHEFIK: A co si tedy představuješ pod pojmem demokracie? Že lidi každé 4 roky volí politiky, kteří budou rozhodovat (a nechme teď stranou, jestli volí svobodně, nebo jestli jsou voliči manipulovaní propagandou) a politici pak plní přání bohatých lobistů? Dnešní demokracie funguje úplně jinak než před 50 lety. Je nebetyčný rozdíl mezi demokracií v USA a ve Finsku. Aby demokracie mohla fungovat ku prospěchu voličů, museli bychom o řád zlepšit úroveň vzdělávání a zajistit nezávislost médií. Vidíš nějaké známky toho, že jsme na dobré cestě? Demokracie je prostě rozbitá a nedokáže nás ochránit před katastrofou, do které se ženeme. Nemusíme se bavit o ideologii, ale pojdmě se bavit o revoluci :-)
    SHEFIK
    SHEFIK --- ---
    GOJATLA: jo, ja s tebou souhlasim, ze demokracie neni dokonale statni zrizeni. protoze ho obsluhuji a vzdy budou obsluhovat lide a ti dokonali nikdy nebudou... lepsi ale nemame

    ...vetsina problemu sveta je o moralnich hodnotach lidi. takze bud prijmeme svet jakej je a budem pracovat s tim co mame, nebo se muzeme bavit o ideologiich
    SHEFIK
    SHEFIK --- ---
    Trump’s Methane Regulation Rollback Causes Rift Among Oil And Gas Players
    https://www.forbes.com/...mps-methane-regulation-rollback-causes-rift-among-oil-and-gas-players/amp/

    A recent decision by the Trump administration to roll back regulations on the reporting of methane emissions has fractured the normally united front presented by the oil and gas exploration-and-production (E&P) industry. Some of the industry’s biggest players — including international oil companies (IOCs) and U.S. based supermajors, like ExxonMobil — are calling the regulatory retreat a mistake, while other producers, largely independent E&P companies, hailed the move as a welcome relief from burdensome regulations.
    TADEAS
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    GOJATLA
    GOJATLA --- ---
    SHEFIK: Pořád nerozumím, jak by mohl řešení zařídit trh, dokud mají na regulace tak zásadní vliv lobisti. Teoreticky by to mohlo fungovat, ale byla by nutná revoluce v tom, jak funguje naše demokracie. Biden má sice zajímavý plán, ale nedokáže ho prosadit přes odpor zákonodárců placených průmyslem.
    ‘All Rhetoric and No Action’: Oil Giants Spent $1 Billion on Climate Lobbying and Ads Since Paris Pact, Says Report | DeSmog
    https://www.desmogblog.com/...evron-bp-total-shell-billion-climate-lobbying-advertising-influencemap

    Tady je ukázka, jak průmyslová lobby ovlivňuje rozhodování měst:
    Revealed: how the gas industry is waging war against climate action | US news | The Guardian
    https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2020/aug/20/gas-industry-waging-war-against-climate-action

    The documents show the multibillion-dollar gas industry has built crucial local coalitions and hired high-powered operatives to torpedo cities’ anti-gas policies – sometimes assisted by money those same cities have paid into gas trade associations.

    APGA has been fighting electrification since at least 2013 when it established a taskforce to “counter the regulatory and legislative threats to the direct use of natural gas”, according to an internal presentation obtained with a public records request by the center.

    This year, APGA is spending at least $127,000 on anti-electrification initiatives and $200,000 for media monitoring, engagement with reporters, letters to the editor, op-eds and social media efforts. It is also launching a $300,000 “gas genius” campaign to bolster public opinion of gas on social media. APGA declined to comment on its specific efforts.

    APGA is funded with public money from the cities whose municipal gas utilities it represents.

    So, ironically, the industry fight against electrification is often being paid for in part by progressive cities.
    GOJATLA
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    One-Third of Plant and Animal Species Could be Gone in 50 Years | University of Arizona News
    https://news.arizona.edu/story/onethird-plant-and-animal-species-could-be-gone-50-years

    The study identified maximum annual temperatures — the hottest daily highs in summer — as the key variable that best explains whether a population will go extinct. Surprisingly, the researchers found that average yearly temperatures showed smaller changes at sites with local extinction, even though average temperatures are widely used as a proxy for overall climate change.

    "This means that using changes in mean annual temperatures to predict extinction from climate change might be positively misleading," Wiens said.

    Previous studies have focused on dispersal — or migration to cooler habitats — as a means for species to "escape" from warming climates. However, the authors of the current study found that most species will not be able to disperse quickly enough to avoid extinction, based on their past rates of movement. Instead, they found that many species were able to tolerate some increases in maximum temperatures, but only up to a point. They found that about 50% of the species had local extinctions if maximum temperatures increased by more than 0.5 degrees Celsius, and 95% if temperatures increase by more than 2.9 degrees Celsius.

    "In a way, it's a 'choose your own adventure,'" Wiens said. "If we stick to the Paris Agreement to combat climate change, we may lose fewer than two out of every 10 plant and animal species on Earth by 2070. But if humans cause larger temperature increases, we could lose more than a third or even half of all animal and plant species, based on our results."
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