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    TUHOKlimaticka zmena / Thank you so much for ruining my day
    XCHAOS
    XCHAOS --- ---
    SEJDA: ok, ale odpadky nejsou to, co ohřívá planetu... ve skutečnosti, ke klimatické změně přispějou, až když plasty poctivě nasbíráš do plastů a proběhne "recyklace" v podobě odvozu do spalovny a jejich prohnání komínem...

    je to ironické, ale stejně tak jako sázení lesů by pomáhalo jen kdybychom dokázali zajistit, že bude dřevo někde aspoň pár desetiletí uskladněné, než se dostane do oběhu jako přepravované zboží nebo než se spálí v kamnech či v elektrárnách, tak stejně tak všechen plastový odpad, který někde zasviní smetiště a oceány je jediný, který nepřispěje k emisím CO2. Odpad, který projde spalovnami, je ekvivalentní jakémukoliv jinému fosilnímu palivo. Plasty jsou menší problém, dokud je vidíme jako svinčík okolo, než když už je nevidíme - protože pak byly s velkou pravděpodobností spáleny (což nikdo nechce brzdit, protože je to "čistší", ale z hlediska CO2 je to akorát nové uhlí)

    tedy, samozřejmě používat jako spotřební obalový materiál jen dřevo, papír či kartón, místo plastů, by určitě bylo dobře... problém je zkrátka jen v tom, že škálovatelné není ani to, ani to. obaly a značky na nich jsou virální memy, které infikovaly civilizaci. u biologických virů samozřejmě hned rozeznáme, že jsou nebezpečí, protože umírají lidé, tak vymýšlíme karantény a očkování. u virálních memů žádné takové obranné mechanismy nemáme vymyšlené, protože celá civilizace je postavená na soutěžení o to, kdo na sebe těch memů nabalí nejvíc... samozřejmě jsou pak nějaké snahy o cenzuru, ale pochopitelně i celá roční výroba plastových brček je kapka v moři oproti pár natankovaným kamionům, které převezou poptávané zboží brčka nebrčka...
    TADEAS
    TADEAS --- ---
    ‘We thought it wouldn’t affect us’: heatwave forces climate reckoning in Pacific north-west | Seattle | The Guardian
    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/jul/03/pacific-northwest-heat-dome-climate-change

    There had been a sense, Hess said, that the north-west would be spared the worst harms presented by a warming world. There’s truth to the sentiment inasmuch as the region, with its affluence, abundant resources and usually mellow weather, is better positioned than much of the world for a hotter, more erratic climate. The deadly heatwave came as a surprise.

    “People have recognized that this might happen in theory, but I don’t think they expected it to happen,” he said. “They certainly didn’t expect it to happen now, and they didn’t expect it to be this bad.”


    ...

    “There was a naivety that this wouldn’t affect us in the north-west,” Stinson continued.

    Having lived in Las Vegas, Stinson knew how to deal with the heat. She covered south-facing windows in her craftsman-style home with aluminum foil, kept the appliances off, and hunkered down with her teenage son and black labrador retriever, Rico. It was oppressive, evocative of the wildfire smoke that’s kept west coast residents trapped inside during recent summers. Stinson binged the first season of Buffy the Vampire Slayer and worried for her city.

    While city workers turned on some water fountains and spray parks, many wading pools remained closed because of a national chlorine shortage. Like most prosperous American cities, Seattle has hundreds of people living in tents and shanties in public parks and vacant spaces; in Stinson’s view, city leaders should have opened more cooling centers and ensured that they stayed open through the hot nights.

    In the emergency department of Seattle’s Harborview medical center, the region’s premier trauma hospital, Dr Jeremy Hess found the scene he expected on Sunday night – dozens of people with heat-related ailments. By Monday evening, as the temperatures peaked, the scene was unusually intense.

    Ambulance teams were run ragged, transporting critically ill patients who’d been intubated in the field. One area hospital was low on ventilators, while equipment at others was breaking in the heat. Hospitals were nearly overwhelmed.
    SEJDA
    SEJDA --- ---
    XCHAOS: ja byl minuly vikend na lipne a hadej jakych odpadku jsem tam nasel nejvice pohazenych vsude okolo?
    XCHAOS
    XCHAOS --- ---
    TADEAS: tak do jisté míry, vytěžit ty lesy a spálit je jako biomasu místo fosilních paliv by bylo nakonec menší zlo :-) aneb ta část Sibiře, kterou vykáceli Číňani, teď aspoň neshoří :-/

    Jinak je to samozřejmě naprosto šílený. Můžu se utěšovat tím, že letos k tomu nepřispívám, protože jedu na dovolenou vlakem místo autem, ale stejně k tomu přispíváme my všichni, veškerou naší spotřebou. Samozřejmě, pokud náhodou nejezdíme každý den autem, tak možná o něco méně, ale stejně.

    Bohužel vidím jako strašně těžké to lidem nějak vysvětlit, i když se přes ně přežene tornádo, stejně se jim okamžitě dostane ujištění, že s klimatickou změnou to nesouvisí, a obecně v demokracii je hrozně těžké získat hlasy usedlých, pohodlných voličů tím, že jim řeknete "hneď teď všeho nechte a začněte dělat něco jiného!"
    XCHAOS
    XCHAOS --- ---
    Pobavili hasící loď s popiskou "zákaz plastových brček", která nedostříkne fakt vůbec nikam :-) Jinak samozřejmě, když si za "kapitalismus" dosadíme "my všichni", tak boužel je to pravda, no...
    TADEAS
    TADEAS --- ---
    takze kdo se stehuje do kanady a na sibir za posouvajicima se klimatickejma pasmama, do tech novejch urodnejch lokalit? haha.
    TADEAS
    TADEAS --- ---
    PER2: dle politickych (protoplanetarnich) dohod by melo, zda bude, to se dozvime za nasich zivotu
    PER2
    PER2 --- ---
    TADEAS: "The Holocene, the stable climate period we just heated out of, only lasted 12 thousand years."

    melo by to tvrvat dyl nebo kratsi cas, kde v minulosti bylo takhle stabilni obdobi? :)
    LUDO
    LUDO --- ---
    TADEAS: oni hasia more, som uz asi videl vsetko
    TADEAS
    TADEAS --- ---
    Dear everyone, and I mean everyone, I need you to pay attention. The Canadian heat wave is a "once every 10s of thousands of years" event.

    The Holocene, the stable climate period we just heated out of, only lasted 12 thousand years. We are ALREADY in the era of climate disasters.

    https://t.co/HvrjiqoO88

    TADEAS
    TADEAS --- ---
    MARSHUS: ad pemex, taky dobrej mordor

    The ocean is on fire in the Gulf of Mexico after a pipeline ruptured. Good system.
    https://t.co/5HK6VVfxOP

    Incendio en línea submarina de Pemex en Campeche - Las Noticias
    https://youtu.be/YYsJdHQ_iLw
    MARSHUS
    MARSHUS --- ---
    tohle je spíš do auditka Kolaps...

    https://twitter.com/AntonBoym/status/1411101829274943489?s=20

    Siberia fire #СибирьГорит 1000x times larger than Canada #wildfires and this Permex catastrophe in Gulf of Mexico !
    TADEAS
    TADEAS --- ---
    How climate change will widen Europe’s divides – POLITICO
    https://www.politico.eu/article/how-climate-change-will-widen-european-divide-road-to-cop26/

    Europe’s north will struggle with floods and fires, even with warming at the lowest end of expectations — the Paris Agreement limits of 1.5 or 2 degrees above the pre-industrial global average. But the south will be hammered by drought, urban heat and agricultural decline, driving a wedge into one of the European Union’s biggest political fault lines.

    That is the major finding from a POLITICO survey of more than 100 scientific papers, interviews with climate scientists and a leaked draft of the next report by the U.N. Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), a 4,200-page study that is science’s most advanced inquiry to date of the impacts of climate change on our world.

    ...

    During la canicule, the heat wave of 2003, European cities cooked their people. It was the hottest August in at least half a millennium, temperatures in the high 30s squatted over much of the continent for weeks. The EU estimates that something like 80,000 people died. French President Jacques Chirac attended a somber burial service for 57 people whose bodies were never claimed.

    Under any future warming scenario, a summer like 2003 will be disturbingly normal. According to EU research, at 1.5 degrees of warming, around one in every five people in the EU and U.K. will experience similar heat in any given year. At 3 degrees, that rises to more than half the population.

    The heat is literally maddening. Italian researchers found a strong link between psychiatric emergencies and daily temperature. Suicides doubled in Moscow during a heat wave in 2010. In Madrid, incidents of domestic violence and women being murdered by their partners jump when the temperature goes over 34 degrees. Hot nights bring climate insomnia.

    We aren’t helping ourselves. An increasing share of Europeans have made their homes in giant, heat-concentrating concrete crucibles. Cities are typically 5 to 10 degrees warmer than the surrounding countryside. If little is done to reduce global emissions, Europe’s cities could warm 6 to 10 degrees on top of that. The south will see the greatest increases. In Rome and other Mediterranean cities, the heat will become so intense that traditional architectural systems relying on natural ventilation will no longer function.

    ...

    The good news, for at least some of Europe’s farmers, is that climate change can deliver winners. Warmer winters, longer growing seasons and more rain mean parts of Europe, in particular the north, will produce more food than today.

    For other parts of the continent, however, a warmer world spells disaster. Climate change will draw a curtain of rain across Europe. Higher latitudes will get wetter, while Southern Europe dries up. Droughts are expected to get more frequent and more extreme, creeping across Europe’s southern and central plains.

    ...

    At 2 degrees warming, 9 percent of Europe’s population may be competing over inadequate water supplies. In Southern Europe, the IPCC draft warns, more than a third of the population will have less water than they need. If temperatures rise by 3 degrees, regions suffering from droughts in Europe could double from 13 percent to 26 percent.

    The areas bordering the Mediterranean will be hardest hit, with the proportion of land regularly experiencing droughts expanding from 28 percent to 49 percent in the most extreme cases. Dry spells there would also last longer — nearly half of every year, up from two months today. Some parts of the Iberian Peninsula could experience drought for more than seven months every year.

    The loss of rain will make it harder to grow many staple crops in Southern Europe. Farmers will see traditional crops flee north ahead of the advancing Sahara, which is already jumping the Mediterranean Sea. At 2 degrees warming, agricultural biomes will shift north at a rate of 25 kilometers to 135 kilometers a decade.

    Yields of wheat in Southern Europe — where successive civilizations have cultivated it for thousands of years — will fall by 12 percent while growing 5 percent in the north. Under extreme warming scenarios, southern wheat production collapses by as much as half. But even at 1.5 degrees it will be near impossible to grow maize across much of Spain, France, Italy and the Balkans without irrigation. In a cultural catastrophe for Italy, the best tomatoes might one day be German.

    Far-sighted farmers are trying to hold water on the land by scraping small dams or planting trees. Farms with irrigation will hold out longer. But when those adaptations meet the rolling water shortages on the Mediterranean rim, they will eventually fail

    ...

    Farms are already being abandoned across the continent. In the south, the EU views climate change as a major new factor driving families from the land, perhaps into increasingly hotter cities. Rural communities and their traditions wither. Farms, managed for generations, now run wild, creating new habitats, but also stocking the land with dry fuel and increasing the risk of mega fires.

    ...

    In the increasingly sun- and rain-drenched north, land values rise by around 9 percent for every degree of temperature rise. If no efforts are made to change farming techniques to suit the new climate, land values in large parts of Spain, southern France, Italy and Greece could stagnate or fall over the next 80 years. By far the largest downturn will be in Italy, currently one of Europe’s biggest producers.

    Meanwhile, farmers outside the southern desiccation zone might be entering a gilded era. As temperatures rise, other parts of the world that were once productive — including Punjab, the Middle East, Africa’s Sahel and Southeast Asia — will be growing less and less of anything. Global supply will be squeezed, increasing food prices that deliver an apocalypse windfall to Northern Europe. Southern agriculture will be dying on the vine, even as farmers in Ireland, Denmark and the Netherlands cash in.

    ...

    Projections over this century suggest most parts of Europe will experience up to 35 percent more extreme rainstorms in the winter, particularly in the north. If warming continues beyond 1.5 degrees, floods could become an annual problem for about 5 million Europeans, the IPCC draft report says, rather than once a century.

    ...

    If warming reaches 3 degrees by the end of the century, river floods could hit nearly half a million people annually, up from 170,000 now. Damage could jump sixfold, from €7.8 billion a year today, the Commission’s research arm has warned. In 2002, floods along Central Europe’s major rivers — the Elbe and Danube — killed dozens of people, destroyed homes, and racked up billions in damages in Austria, Germany, the Czech Republic, Slovakia, Poland, Hungary, Romania and Croatia.

    River flooding will be concentrated in Northern and Central Europe and the U.K. and Ireland, while the south roasts

    ...

    In the Mediterranean, the sea level could rise by as much as 1.1 meters by 2100, depending on how much the planet warms. That exposes 42 million people currently living in low-lying areas, accounting for 37 percent of the coastline. Scandinavia will suffer less from sea level rise because its landmass is still rebounding after being covered by heavy ice sheets in the last ice age.

    ...

    Europe’s cooler climate previously made life tough for many mosquito species and the diseases they carry. But rising temperatures have spurred the advance of a particularly prolific disease carrier: the Asian tiger mosquito, so named for the white stripes that run across its body. Known as the world’s most invasive mosquito, it arrived in Italy in 1990 and is now established across the Mediterranean and is pushing as far north as Belgium and the Netherlands. At 18 degrees, the tiger mosquitoes won’t spread chikungunya — a painful, aching fever for which there is no vaccine or treatment — but at 28 degrees they most definitely can.

    Researchers at the European Centre for Disease Prevention and Control expect chikungunya will spread in Europe as the temperature warms. Alongside will come dengue fever and West Nile virus — a major outbreak of the latter during the 2018 heat wave killed 180 people in 10 countries. Similar to mosquitoes, the range of ticks carrying encephalitis and Lyme disease is expected to creep northward into Scandinavia (although it’s likely to become too hot for them in the south) and into higher altitude Alpine regions.

    Then there is the return of malaria, which Europe eradicated through a huge post-war program of insecticide spraying, swamp draining and drug therapy. The Mediterranean remains entirely suitable for malaria transmission, and with warming, the insects and the parasites in their stomachs could reclaim their place in Europe.

    ...

    European policymakers are waking up to the fact that the EU’s emissions reductions won’t shield the bloc from climate nightmares. The European Commission came out with a new adaptation strategy in February that will provide the building blocks for the response. But “the speed of adaptation is lagging the speed of climate change,” the IPCC report said, adding that even the most full-blooded effort can’t outpace all the impacts of warming.

    All the experts that POLITICO spoke with suggested that Europe’s more fortunate northerners would eventually be called upon to support their sweaty southern neighbors, just as it has offered payments for fossil fuel-producing regions to help workers ease out of polluting jobs.

    That moment could come sooner than many expect. In Spain, the countryside is being consumed by desert, and Minister for the Ecological Transition Teresa Ribera is charged with holding back the sand. Unless Europe invests now in protecting the most affected places, she said, it risks a “worst-case scenario” and “a terrible political debate — all across Europe” over where to save and “where we must give up.”
    TADEAS
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    Climate Code Red: Fatal calculations: How bad economics encouraged climate inaction
    http://www.climatecodered.org/2020/04/fatal-calculations-how-bad-economics.html

    Pandemics and climate disruption are existential risks that require that particular emphasis be placed on the high-impact possibilities, not middle-of-the road outcomes. Released today by Breakthrough, Fatal calculations: How economics has underestimated climate damage and encouraged inaction, shows how economists have ignored the real risks of climate change
    TADEAS
    TADEAS --- ---
    Prof. Steve Keen at the OECD Conference "Averting Systemic Collapse" 18. September 2019
    https://youtu.be/EtKW3OK2_lk


    Prof. Steve Keen's presentation "Flawed Approaches (and a New Approach) to Environmental Challenges" at the OECD Conference "Averting Systemic Collapse" in Paris on September 18th 2019.

    In his presentation he strongly criticizes William Nordhaus and integrated assessment models (IAMs) used in IPCC reports, showing how problematic ignoring tipping points can be in such models and damage functions.
    TADEAS
    TADEAS --- ---
    Climate change will bring hotter heat waves every summer - Los Angeles Times
    https://www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2021-07-02/heat-wave-northwest-climate-science
    TADEAS
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    Canadian inferno: northern heat exceeds worst-case climate models | Climate change | The Guardian
    https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2021/jul/02/canadian-inferno-northern-heat-exceeds-worst-case-climate-models

    Johan Rockström, the director of the Potsdam Institute for Climate Impact Research, said the recent extreme weather anomalies were not represented in global computer models that are used to project how the world might change with more emissions. The fear is that weather systems might be more frequently blocked as a result of human emissions. “It is a risk – of a serious regional weather impact triggered by global warming – that we have underestimated so far,” he said.


    TADEAS
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    PER2:

    "Did we aggressively fight against some of the science? Yes," Keith McCoy, the Exxon (XOM) lobbyist, said during a covertly filmed job interview recorded by Greenpeace's UK investigative platform.

    "Did we join some shadow groups to work against some of the early efforts? Yes, that's true," McCoy said in the video, which was published Wednesday by the UK's Channel 4. "But there's nothing illegal about that. We were looking out for our investments. we were looking out for our shareholders."

    The footage seems to corroborate what many suspected all along: Exxon's public support for climate solutions at times conflicts with its work behind the scenes.
    TADEAS
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    Moravské tornádo a změny klimatu: princip „předběžného popírání“ nemůže obstát
    https://denikreferendum.cz/clanek/32860-moravske-tornado-a-zmeny-klimatu-princip-predbezneho-popirani-nemuze-obstat

    Pokud bychom k problému přistupovali jako redakce Deníku N, je pravděpodobné, že nakonec sice budeme mít dat a informací, abychom mohli o zvyšující se četnosti, ničivosti i teritoriálním výskytu tornád či dalších dílčích projevů změn klimatu hovořit kategoricky, bude však pozdě s tím cokoli dělat.

    Kriticky důležité je proto začít uplatňovat namísto principu „předběžného popírání“ princip předběžné opatrnosti, který se využívá například v právu životního prostředí. Ten nám jednoznačně říká, že „i když není jisté, zda hrozící nevratné nebo závažné poškození skutečně nastane, není to důvod pro odklad opatření, jež mu mají zabránit.“

    V daném případě se navíc bavíme o reálné, vědou detailně podložené, hrozbě globální katastrofy. Už nejméně třicet let víme, že závažné poškození klimatu skutečně nastane
    TADEAS
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    Neobyvatelná země Davida Wallace-Wellse: alarmismus jako umění klimatického thrilleru – A2larm
    https://a2larm.cz/2021/07/neobyvatelna-zeme-davida-wallace-wellse-alarmismus-jako-umeni-klimatickeho-thrilleru/

    Když jsem před lety četl knihu amerického lékaře Ricka Strassmanna, v níž popisuje zážitky dobrovolníků, jimž v rámci svého výzkumu podával vysoce psychoaktivní látku DMT, utkvěl mi v paměti výrok jednoho z dobrovolníků: „Ateistou můžete zůstat jen do dávky 0,4 miligramu.“ Vzpomněl jsem si na něj při četbě klimatické nonfiction Neobyvatelná země od amerického novináře Davida Wallace-Wellse a položil si otázku, do jakého stupně oteplení planety bude v podobném duchu ještě možné zůstat ateistou a kdy už nám nezbyde jiná možnost, než se začít modlit? Bude to hranice „bezpečné“ míry oteplení o 1,5 °C, k níž se překotným tempem blížíme, „nebezpečné“ 2 °C, nebo až ony čtyři stupně, považované za fatální pro existenci organizované lidské společnosti?

    ...

    Klimatickou krizi tak můžeme společně s autorem chápat jako aktuálně probíhající celoplanetární thriller, jehož jsme smutnými aktéry. Někteří v hlavních rolích, jiní ve vedlejších, další v zákulisí, jiní jako komparz. Všichni ale jsme volky nevolky součástí klimatického thrilleru, který se odvíjí před našima očima. Příběhu, nemá srovnání s ničím, co lidstvo doposud ve svých dějinách zakusilo. Rozsah, intenzita a dopady tohoto příběhu čím dál rychleji nabírají rozměru kataklyzmatu, které jako by nás vracelo znovu do mytických dob, kdy přírodní síly personifikované do podob bohů a bohyň představovaly vyšší, člověka přesahující mocnosti, jimž byl vydán napospas.

    Destabilizací klimatu jsme probudili spícího obra. Klimatická a ekologická krize představuje Nemesis moderní vědecko-průmyslové civilizace, která propadla iluzi, že se může od přírody izolovat a zkrotit ji pro své potřeby tak, že už pro ni nebude představovat žádnou hrozbu. Tuto moderní pýchu panství člověka nad přírodou klimatická krize odhaluje jako iluzorní. Rozpoutali jsme síly, které nejenže nedokážeme zvládnout, ale svou obrovitostí přesahují i možnosti našeho chápání: snahy představit si rozsah celé věci nutně narážejí

    na hranice naší imaginace.

    ...

    „Pokud se nám klimatickou otázku nepodaří vyřešit, budou naše děti vést válku o vodu a jídlo. O tom nemám žádné pochybnosti,“ prohlásil místopředseda Evropské komise Frans Timmermans, jemuž je nyní šedesát let, a oněmi dětmi tedy míní mnoho čtenářů a čtenářek tohoto textu.
    Kliknutím sem můžete změnit nastavení reklam