TADEAS, TADEAS:

The Climate Scientist's Quandary
https://youtube.com/watch?v=_hBYOwDKO9k&feature=youtu.be


In a powerful conversation with Dr. Alison Green, Professors Bruce Glavovic, Iain White and Tim Smith discuss their controversial paper, calling for a moratorium on climate change research (https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/...). One of their key points is that it is now vital to disrupt 'science as usual', which has not been effective in addressing the climate and ecological emergency. Acknowledging that activism is important, they call for an urgent conversation within the science community to address the question 'what IS the role of scientists in trying to renegotiate the science-society contract?'

Bruce Glavovic is a Professor at Massey University, Iain White is a Professor of Environmental Planning, University of Waikato, and Tim Smith is a Professor and ARC Future Fellow, University of the Sunshine Coast.

Scientists call for a moratorium on climate change research until governments take real action
https://theconversation.com/scientists-call-for-a-moratorium-on-climate-change-research-until-governments-take-real-action-172690

Where to from here for climate change scientists?
The first option is to collect more evidence and hope for action. Continue the IPCC process that stays politically neutral and abstains from policy prescriptions. A recent editorial in Nature called on scientists to do just that: stay engaged to support future climate COPs.

However, this choice not only ignores the complex relationship between science and policy, it runs counter to the logic of our scientific training to reflect and act on the evidence. We know why global warming is happening and what to do. We have known for a long time.

Governments just haven’t taken the necessary action. In a recent Nature survey, six in ten of the IPCC scientists who responded expect 3℃ warming above pre-industrial levels by 2100. Persisting with this first option is therefore untenable.

The second option is more intensive social science research and climate change advocacy. As Harvard historian Naomi Oreskes recently observed, the work of the IPCC’s Working Group I (WGI, on the physical science basis of climate change) is complete and should be closed down. Attention needs to focus on translating this understanding into action, which is the realm of WGII (on impacts, adaptation and vulnerability) and WGIII (on mitigation of greenhouse gas emissions).

In parallel, growing numbers of scientists are getting involved in diverse forms of advocacy, including non-violent civil disobedience

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We call for a moratorium on climate change research that does little more than document global warming and maladaptation.

Attention needs to focus on exposing and re-negotiating the broken science-society contract. Given the rupture to the contract outlined here, we call for a halt on all further IPCC assessments until governments are willing to fulfil their responsibilities in good faith and mobilise action to secure a safe level of global warming. This option is the only way to overcome the tragedy of climate change science.

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We have reached a critical juncture for humanity and the planet. Given the unfolding tragedy, a moratorium on climate change research is the only responsible option for revealing and then restoring the broken science-society contract.

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Tání arktické půdy, která nikdy neměla roztát, ohrožuje celý svět, tvrdí studie - Novinky.cz
https://www.novinky.cz/veda-skoly/clanek/tani-arkticke-pudy-ktera-nikdy-nemela-roztat-ohrozuje-cely-svet-tvrdi-studie-40383862

Nic co bysme tady nevedeli, ale clanek v cestine o tom v mainstreamu (vzacnost celkem) - takze to sem postuju.

IMHO: Jako to jak moc to bude skokove proste jeste nedokazi domyslet ani ti komentatori.

DNF: Tadeasova farma ma u me 5 hvezdicek z 5 moznych.

Ten problem je v necem jinem. Predstava ze zemedelstvi bude pro 8 MLD lidi neco co nebude mechanizovane, a promyslene (prumyslove) a zaroven to bude funkcni a nasyti 8 MLD lidi je nesmysl.

Naopak, dnesni zemedelstvi jeste vubec neni z meho pohledu prumyslove, protoze neni dobre promyslene. Zameruje se jen na 1 aspekt celku. Skutecne prumyslove zemedelstvi bude promyslene tak ze bude respektovat ty potreby ekosystemu, protoze bez neho bude muset nejen draze a slozite kompenzovat svoje vlastni chyby, ale za par desitek let skonci uplne.

DNF: ekosystemy na rozzil od klimatu jsou lokalni, regionalni, pro me budoucnost nastala https://refar.ma/

DNF: Ano, ja se toho bojim. Dezinfo kolem dusledku konzumace zivocisne stravy na lidsky organismus je plna pulka veganskejch auditek po internetech.

A kde se to uz stalo? Dobra paralela. No treba v oblasti toho ze se BIO potraviny vnimaji jako neco lepsiho ten posun je celospolecensky je to cistej byznys se lzi. Neresi to ani welfare, ani erozi pudy, ani ekosystemove externality a uz vubec neplati ze dane prostredky (arbitrarne a neodborne urcene) ochrany jsou lepsi nez moderni vyvinute latku (muzu jmenovat radu prikladu kde je to presne naopak - napr. jicha vs. moderni synteticke prostredky proti plisnim co maji biologickou rozlozitelnost 2 tydny (jicha je perzistentni a toxicka)).

TUHO: prave to neni prerod, je to furt to samy, snaha se vymanit z toho prumyslovyho paradigmatu a najit to co je tomu ekosystemu patricny, tzn. vedoma hyperpredace, management ekosystemu k jeho integralnimu stavu za danejch podminek

TADEAS: Proof of podjeb .))
No a jak probihala tvoje "konverze" k veganstvi a potom k regenerativnimu zemedelstvi. Koneckoncu jsou to pomerne kompilkovany identitarni prerod .))

TADEAS: Ja to chapu, ale myslim, ze pro vsechny bude prinosnejsi, kdyz to explicitne kontextualizujes jako tedka :) Me to naivni veganstvi leze na nervy taky (castecne proto, ze jsem ho dlouhodobe praktikoval :D)... Nicmene nevim, jestli tyhle bocni ustepacny podjeby jsou cesta vpred .))

TUHO: potrebuju se vyrovnavat s emocionalnima apelama na to, ze rostlinne zemedelstvi spasi svet a delam to i pasivne agresivnim trolenim. obecne me sere povsechny ekosystemovy ignoranstvi, ktery se v tomhle havu vydava za neco lepsiho. mam si na to zridit separatni klubik? .]

O tom byl prý jeden díl South Park, že Cartman byl nasranej na módní veganství, protože má rád old-school McFast-food. Ale poté, co zjistil, že ty veganský produkty jsou stejnej junk, tak to vzal na milost a taky si to oblíbil :-))