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    TUHOKlimaticka zmena / If the fracturing of our once stable climate doesn’t terrify you, then you don’t fully understand it
    SHEFIK
    SHEFIK --- ---
    YMLADRIS: ja nechci lajnovat zadny scenare, pac je jich nekonecne mnoho a budoucnost neni napsana. Mass rape se da mitigovat mnoha zpusoby.

    Ja chapu co chce Hallam rict a je pravdepodobne, ze k mass rape pri soucasne trajektorii nekde dojde, jen rikam, ze ta kauzualita s klimatem je proste nestastna, pac klima neni root cause pro mass rape chovani. Je to jeden z faktoru, ktere mohou takovou situaci prihodit. Mohou z toho duvodu, ze se to da mitigovat x zpusoby a je na lidstvu, jestli nejakou z techto akci provede.

    Proste statetement, ze kazdy kdo ma analyticke mysleni vidi, ze uz je pred nami jen mass rape a human extinction je hodny cloveka zraleho na psychiatrickou peci.
    YMLADRIS
    YMLADRIS --- ---
    SHEFIK: to asi myslíš "v fortress Europe předpokládám kapsu kde se dal bude prosazovat právo. On asi mluví o rozpadu lidskeho chování v tom neobyvatelném pásu, což mi nevadí. Už teď stovky milionů lidí mají hlad a zvládame se tím netrapit"

    Jo?
    SHEFIK
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    TADEAS: sry, to je nesmysl. Atribuce chain of events prvnimu triggeru vedouci k tomu nejpesimistictejsimu scenari...

    To prirovnani meteoritu vs deaths je prece immediate impact, kdezto mass rape je nejakej prenesenej efekt proudici bud z paniky (jez muze bejt zpusobena cimkoliv, nejen klimatem), popripade chudobou a z ni proudici frustrace.

    Navic kazdej kdo ma analyticko-projektovy mysleni vi, ze na risks se daji uplatnovat ruzny mitigation actions. Cimz nerikam, ze jist jidlo jen ze skleniku a houby z podzemi je nejaka idealni vize, jen chci poukazat na disconnection s mass rape.

    Prirovnal bych tenhle text k takovy demagogii, jako kdyz bych vinil ze vseho spatneho co se lidstvu prihodilo 6 africkych matek...
    TADEAS
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    R Hallam
    https://twitter.com/RogerHallamCS21/status/1764576909503988133?s=19

    @Guardian is a massive schizophrenia machine - over in the “climate department” we are told on a daily basis that the human race is heading for extinction - or effective extinction if you want to be nerdy about it. While over in the politics department it’s liberal business as usual. This is not smart.

    As @MarinaHyde says.
    “I can see Ms Lunnon thinks that the only context for anything anyone says or does, ever, is that we are about to become extinct, and that trumps absolutely everything.”

    Let's be polite and suggest this sentence is not very well thought through. Obviously if we were about to become extinct then that would trump absolutely everything. In world war two  3% of humanity died and the war definitively did trump everything - so presumably if 100% of humanity is about to die then .. well

    ...

    How does this denial happen? I offer the following reasons.

    1. Marina and co think climate is an issue - it is not - by definition it is everything, in the sense that air and water are everything - no water you die - no climate you have no food, you die.
    2. Marina and co think climate is an event - “when we get to 2c” - implies we stop there - no 2C locks in 3C and so on. It does not stop.
    3. Marina and co think the climate is about the physical world - which they are dumb enough to think does not interact with the social world. If you for instance suggest that climate will create mass rape all hell breaks loose. But to deny this is like saying a meteorite landing in New York will not kill people.

    They think then that there is only one domino. There is in fact a series of them and when you knock down one - then you will knock down the rest of the row. This is basic physics. The tipping points in the geophysical system trigger each other which then re-amplify each other - it's ONE SYSTEM.

    This is how you lock in human extinction. And everyone with minimal analytical skills knows that human extinction is now the main scenario.
    TUHO
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    Jsou místa, kde se už blížíme k bodu zlomu. Poslední rok je extrém, varuje meteorolog - Aktuálně.cz
    https://video.aktualne.cz/spotlight/spotlight-rozhovor-michal-zak-video/r~f1466392d49411ee83060cc47ab5f122/
    TUHO
    TUHO --- ---
    Bububu, ty mala...

    Uzavření dvou uhelných elektráren miliardáře Pavla Tykače není jen údajnou hrozbou pro energetickou stabilitu Česka, ale také významnou úsporou emisí oxidu uhličitého. Tyto elektrárny totiž stojí za skoro desetinou emisí CO2 celé země.

    Miliardář Tykač hrozí uzavřením elektráren. Snížilo by to emise Česka skoro o deset procent
    https://www.ekonews.cz/miliardar-tykac-hrozi-uzavrenim-elektraren-snizilo-by-to-emise-ceska-skoro-o-deset-procent/
    YMLADRIS
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    Očekávám že tyto nůžky se budou rozevírat. Gigatovarna co pomocí AI manipuluje molekuly bude vnímaná jako větší Moloch a jádro problému, než tzv normální věci co existovaly když jsem byl malej. Bez ohledu na to, co který z těch byznysů např konkrétně vyrábí
    TADEAS
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    SEJDA: tohle jsou nejaky ekokomunisti a tesla neni volks. automobily se nemaji vyrabet na linkach, ale v druzstevnich dilnach v kolaborativnim procesu
    SEJDA
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    TADEAS: to je nova strategie .. ale nechapu, proc Teslu a ne Volkswagen co je synonymum pro "dieselgate"
    TADEAS
    TADEAS --- ---
    stop civilization

    Skupina, která se říká Vulkangruppe, se v dopise přihlásila k „útoku na elektrickou síť“ poblíž továrny Tesly. „Dnes jsme sabotovali Teslu,“ stojí v jejich psaní. Firmu obviňují z extrémního vykořisťování a požadují „úplné zničení továrny gigafactory“. „Tesla spotřebovává zemi, zdroje, lidi, pracovníky, a na oplátku každý týden vyplivne 6000 SUV, zabijáckých aut a monster trucků,“ napsali.

    Továrna Tesly přerušila výrobu kvůli požáru. K němu se přihlásili extremisté - iDNES.cz
    https://www.idnes.cz/ekonomika/zahranicni/tovarna-tesla-vypadek-proudu-zastaveni-evakuace.A240305_111927_eko-zahranicni_rie
    TUHO
    TUHO --- ---
    The public debate on climate policies and decarbonisation measures is undergoing significant changes in the European Union. Public opinion in Member States across the EU is influenced by a number of interrelated challenges - be it rising energy prices, the need to ensure energy security, or the demand for rapid implementation of measures under the European Green Deal. The clash between economic interests and environmental objectives has become a central issue across the EU and represents a major challenge to public acceptance of the forthcoming economic transformation.

    Clash of Perspectives: Analyzing the Climate Debates in CEE+ Region before the 2024 Election - Association for International Affairs
    https://www.amo.cz/en/climate-team/clash-of-perspectives-analyzing-the-climate-debates-in-cee-region-before-the-2024-election/
    TADEAS
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    threatened assets with a view ,)

    On the brink: California’s luxe clifftop mansions in peril after record rain | California | The Guardian
    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/mar/05/california-luxury-homes-climate-change

    The torrents of water coming from the sky are having ripple effects on the cliffs that hold up some of California’s most expensive real estate

    Money to protect properties in California from the onslaught of the climate crisis – stronger storms, higher seas, and landslides – will eventually come from the state. The cost of publicly funded disaster relief programs and state-subsidized insurance payouts will be assumed by everyone, including those who have no part in luxury homes with a view
    MATT
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    KOCOURR: Aha, tak tam moc nevim, ale neco by se dalo asi vykoukat z dat CHMU.


    TADEAS: ja predevcirem koukal na tohle, docela zajimavy
    Arctic Sinkholes I Full Documentary I NOVA I PBS
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HvKpnaXYUPU
    TADEAS
    TADEAS --- ---
    20240304-214721

    20240304-214716
    PER2
    PER2 --- ---
    lets go

    TADEAS
    TADEAS --- ---
    Antarctica Is Undergoing a “Regime Shift” – New Research Uncovers Fundamental Changes in Polar Climates
    https://scitechdaily.com/antarctica-is-undergoing-a-regime-shift-new-research-uncovers-fundamental-changes-in-polar-climates/

    "2023’s record-high North Atlantic SST and record-low Antarctic sea ice cover extremes were similar to what we might expect to see in a world that had reached the 3°C threshold of global warming."
    TADEAS
    TADEAS --- ---
    L Simons
    https://twitter.com/LeonSimons8/status/1757981215922012620?s=19

    New preprint confirms that global warming is accelerating.

    The rate of increase of Ocean Heat Content increased with 0.36 W/m² per decade from 2005 to 2023.

    20240304-212910

    ESSDD - IAPv4 ocean temperature and ocean heat content gridded dataset
    https://essd.copernicus.org/preprints/essd-2024-42/
    PER2
    PER2 --- ---
    kulturni okenko, tohle mi neironicky prijde super, s tou muzikou to ma vahu (:
    Ve Varšavě se ekoaktivisté pokusili narušit koncert Národní filharmonie.
    Dvě dívky vylezly během koncertu na pódium a začaly vykřikovat výzvy k boji proti změně klimatu.
    Kliknutím sem můžete změnit nastavení reklam