BULHI: to neni o presvedcovani..jen dalsi analyza a stripky do mozaiky..kazdej si to musi srovnat sam, bez unahlenych zaveru

FLY2001: aha :-) jako ja po vas nechtel neco, cim me presvedcite, ja jen chtel trochu objektivity... me nastvalo tohle - MARNEYY - nechapu jak si muze dovolit rict, ze je to vsechno fake, kdyz proti mnohem zjevnejsim hovadinam se neozve... a to je tady porad, tohle je jen exemplarni priklad (takovy ty dukazy kde na rozmazany fotce 200x200 px lezi kus plechu a pod tim je popisek ve smyslu - tohle je na tuty kus motoru z global hawku)

Former pilot details 'jet blast' angle to Pentagon 'plane'

' ... the pilot states unequivocally that jet blast would have tossed people and cars around like rag dolls if they were 20 feet or less below a Boeing 757, as is claimed by eyewitness reports.

Regarding the eyewitness report of Pentagon renovation worker and retired Army officer Frank Probst, who claimed that the plane flew so low past him that the engine was six feet away, our source exclaimed that this was a ridiculous impossibility.

The pilot said that Probst would have been sucked into the engine like a bird in a giant vacuum and that he had personally been in the cockpit and seen birds from 100 feet away that almost immediately get sucked into the engines.

Similar devastation would have been wrought on cars 20 feet below the plane according to the pilot, contradicting eyewitness reports describing only light shaking of vehicles.'

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'Despite this, the pilot, who first approached Flight 77 questions in an effort to disprove them, was adamant that the government would soon release a "fantastic clear shot of Flight 77 coming in and close the book." He points out that modern technology and computer generated graphics can accurately forge any event and make it appear completely seamless and fears the entire Pentagon issue is a trap to distract researchers and eventually will be used to discredit the entire 9/11 truth movement.'

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http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/may2006/230506doesntfly.htm

BULHI: Loose Change - 2nd Edition

DRAGON: nejak ve zkratce o cem to je? prece jen to ma hodinu a pul, tak je nechci ztratit zbytecne :-)

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/05/22/world/middleeast/22missiles.html?_r=2&oref=slogin&oref=slogin

WASHINGTON, May 21 — The Bush administration is moving to establish a new antimissile site in Europe that would be designed to stop attacks by Iran against the United States and its European allies.

The administration's proposal, which comes amid rising concerns about Iran's suspected program to develop nuclear weapons, calls for installing 10 antimissile interceptors at a European site by 2011. Poland and the Czech Republic are among the nations under consideration.

DRAGON: BINGO :-)

FLU:
BULHI:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8260059923762628848

"nezavisle" .)

na vsechny asi ne .. ale jde mi spis o nezavisle zdroje .)

KULHY: no správně by v oficiální verzi měla být odpověď na tyhle otázky, ne?

tohle vypada zajimave...

http://www.ceskatelevize.cz/program/10076331799-24.05.2006-21:40-2.html

nerozjizdejte tady flejmy ;) zdalo se mi, ze prispevek je on topic, tot vse...

autor je bezpochyby na vyplatni listine Judicial Watch a na provoz stranek mu ze svych tajnych fondu prispiva Bilderberg ;)

MARSHUS: velice dukladna, nebo jo?

KULHY: oficiální verzi třeba?

rozhodne ocenuju videt neco dukladnejsiho z druhe strany .. vic takovych

MARNEYY: presne jak rika flu, aspon to ma hlavu a patu, na rozdil od vetsiny "zarucenejch dukazu", co se tady objevujou... nerikam ze verim jednomu nebo druhymu, prijimam informace z obou stran, ale zatim jsou tady standardem akorat ucelove manipulovany udaje a zavery vyvozovany z fotek, na kterejch nelze rozpoznat vubec nic...

MARNEYY: ja nerikam, ze to je pravda. ale chlapik si s tim evidentne dal spoustu prace a jeho dukazy jsou imho stejne presvedcive jako spousta "konspiracnich"

...As to why that 757 hit the Pentagon, or what were the driving forces behind it hitting the Pentagon that is entirely another matter for an entirely different discussion.

FLU: No jo v poradku, ale proc teda je kolem toho tolik tajnosti? Proc tam nesedi tolik veci? Ja jsem si prohlidnul tu stranku a nenasel jsem tam ani jedinej dukaz, kterej by mne alespon nahlodal. Vsechno to vypada jako fake.

FLU: pekny, konecne taky nejakej odlisnej pohled

FLU: jeste slovo autora:

All I can say to add to this is I spent a few weeks trying to see if a 757 hit the Pentagon. What I arrived at, from all the facts, from all the photos, and from all the witnesses is - a missile did not, a Global Hawk did not, a 757 definitely did. As to why that 757 hit the Pentagon, or what were the driving forces behind it hitting the Pentagon that is entirely another matter for an entirely different discussion.

ad Flight 77... pohled z druhe strany (dukazy o tom, ze to skutecne byl boeing?)

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread79655/pg1

How Flight 77 Hitting The Pentagon Would Really Look?



Prison Planet.com | May 17 2006

Is this what Flight 77 hitting the Pentagon would really look like from nearby security cameras instead of the nondescript blur footage we have been subject to?

This is obviously a crude collection of doctored frames but if the government had released something similar yesterday would you have believed it? Many would.

Wary therefore we are of the potential for the government to eventually release clear footage of the impact from the 84 other cameras that were dotted around the Pentagon and would have easily documented the event to debunk 9/11 skeptics.

The government claims all 84 cameras either didn't capture the impact or that tape in the cameras was mysteriously empty and yet returned as normal to film the cleanup operations.

Judicial Watch has said it will continue to pursue footage from the other 84 cameras. If the government is telling the truth in saying that the tapes show nothing of interest then what are they trying to hide by not releasing them?

http://prisonplanet.com/articles/may2006/170506reallylook.htm

New Video Clip Surfaces: Firefighters Say Bombs in WTC.

Fireman: "bomb in the building, start clearing out..."

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4574366633014832928&q=9%2F11%20bomb

Soldiers to get life in jail for refusing to act as occupiers

GERRI PEEV // POLITICAL CORRESPONDENT

SOLDIERS who object to taking part in a military occupation of a foreign country will face life in prison under measures due to be rubber-stamped in the House of Commons on Monday.

The little-noticed Armed Forces Bill will have its third reading in the Commons on Monday and left-leaning MPs are alarmed that it will legitimise pre-emptive military strikes.

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http://news.scotsman.com/uk.cfm?id=742682006

Hijacked truth?
http://www.timesherald.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=16670601&BRD=1672&PAG=461&dept_id=33380&rfi=6

"The Internet just feeds (conspiracy claims)," he said. "In a world of information overload, it's getting harder and harder to separate the wheat from the chaff."
Farley predicted the explosion of misinformation would only get worse over time. Spencer Meredith, a political science professor at New York's Rochester Institute of Technology, was more optimistic.
"The impact of this is negligible, and long-term it's marginal," Meredith said.
People who believe the government is malicious and highly capable of wrongdoing are more inclined to buy into Sept. 11 conspiracy theories, Meredith said.
"It starts with a mistrust of government," he said. "They don't like Bush."

Denise Richards Uses 9/11 Conspiracy Against Charlie Sheen
http://www.nationalledger.com/artman/publish/article_27265292.shtml
In the papers filed with the court, Richards stated that Sheen had begun to obsess about "vaccines being poisonous." Richards also claims that Charlie was so obsessed with his 9/11 conspiracy theory that he bought gas masks on the Internet and began to put guns under our table in case so they would be in arms reach in case someone broke into the house.

http://www.nationalledger.com/artman/publish/article_27265009.shtml
The theories put forth by these groups are backed by sliced and diced propaganda films that are ridiculous and are easy to see through as nothing more than a cry for attention, and extreme paranoia.

Charlie Sheen has now attached his "credible" voice to this tiny little movement. And he complains he was slammed over his remarks?

He's fortunate that most ignored him.

What is most interesting of all, though, is that people don't really seem to care about the implications of their fantasies: An increasing number of people are all too happy to muse on the subjects of the Bilderberg Group, the Skull and Bones Society or number of other stupid organisations, both real and imagined, yet they don't seem particularly incensed by the idea that the entire world is run for the benefit of these people (whomever they happen to be) and their chums.

Have we become so disillusioned with politics that we are not only willing to swallow ridiculous conspiracy theories, but also don't even care about what they would mean, if true?

http://commentisfree.guardian.co.uk/jason_walsh/2006/05/a_conspiracy_of_dunces.html

Conspiracy theorists down but not out
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4990686.stm

It might well be that, as in the case of the Kennedy assassination, it will take many years for the theories about a US government conspiracy on 11 September 2001 to fade.