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    GORGworld conspiracy // 911 // new world order ... part 4 :: The War on Error
    MARNEYY
    MARNEYY --- ---
    CHARION: Cimz jsi chtel rict, ze je na hovno, kdyz nekdo vystuduje vysokou skolu? ;-)
    JAXXE
    JAXXE --- ---
    In an even greater affront to Russia, and its supposed Middle Eastern ally Egypt, these reports also accuse the United States of operating a CIA/French Intelligence backed terror ring on Egyptian territory for the recruitment of foreign fighters to be deployed in the Iraqi and Afghanistan wars, but which Egyptian authorities had infiltrated and arrested the American and French Ringleaders, and as we can read as reported by the Forbes News Service in their article titled "Egypt Releases Details on American Man", and which says:

    "Security officials in Egypt released new details Monday about an American man in their custody on suspicion of links to a terror network which allegedly recruits Muslims to fight the U.S.-led coalition in Iraq. In Washington, the administration said Monday it expected an American detained in Egypt as a suspected terrorist to be freed.

    The American was arrested late last month along with 11 Europeans and an unknown number of Egyptians and Arabs from other countries who were accused of belonging to an Islamist terror cell plotting attacks. Egyptian authorities expelled eight French citizens and two Belgians on Thursday. Another French citizen was in custody along with the American.

    The State Department has criticized Egypt for refusing to grant U.S. officials timely access to the arrested American."

    Egyptian authorities became further outraged when the French Intelligence Agents plotting with the CIA, and who were deported to France with the understanding that they would be prosecuted, were released by French Authorities, and as we can read as reported by the International Herald Tribune in their article titled "French police release 8 terror suspects expelled from Egypt", and which says:

    "French anti-terrorist police have freed eight Frenchmen accused by Egyptian authorities of plotting attacks in the Middle East and expelled from Egypt, judicial officials said Sunday. The eight Frenchmen were arrested upon their arrival in France on Friday. The DSAT anti-terrorist agency released four Saturday, and four more Sunday, the judicial officials said."

    ...

    http://english.pravda.ru/world/americas/85920-1/
    PETVAL
    PETVAL --- ---
    UK ditches single ID database
    Swaps Big Brother for fraternal triumvirate
    UK ditches single ID database
    Swaps Big Brother for fraternal triumvirate
    By Lucy Sherriff → More by this author
    Published Tuesday 19th December 2006 19:09 GMT

    The UK government has ditched plans to put all our identities on one big database, saying that sticking with existing systems will help cut fraud and save money.
    ...
    Reid has already said that as of 2008 all new visitors to the UK will have to register their biometric information with the government. But now this will be extended to all non-EU foreign nationals in the UK. The scheme will start for those reapplying for visas.

    "We want to count everybody in and count everybody out," said Reid.

    He also conceded that the system will not prevent people having fake IDs, but argues that it will put a stop to multiple identities, the BBC reports.
    "You can go around claiming the first time you are John Reid, but you can not then come round a second time claiming you are Liam Byrne", he said.

    We are mystified as to why anyone would want to pass themselves off as either, but that may be beside the point.
    ...
    http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/12/19/bigbro_cubed/
    PETVAL
    PETVAL --- ---
    anglicky clanek reaguje na Sternovu zpravu zminenou v tom ceskem, popisuje, jak OSN manipuluje data atd.

    Britové vyzvali k radikální ekologické reformě
    Britové představili plán akce, která má radikálně zamezit změnám globálního klimatu. Zpráva varovala, že pokud svět nezasáhne, přijde každé země přibližně o desetinu svého hrubého domácího produktu.

    Přitom účinný zásah by přišel asi na procento HDP ročně.

    Zprávou, kterou připravil tým vedený hlavním ekonomem britské vlády a bývalým hlavním ekonomem Světové banky sirem Nicholasem Sternem, se Londýn v této oblasti dostává do nového otevřeného střetu s vládou amerického prezidenta George Bushe. Ta zastává stanovisko, že ekologická opatření jsou příliš drahá a zpomalují hospodářský růst. Stern vypočítal pravý opak a jeho zpráva, která pronikla na veřejnost už v neděli, proto už vyvolala v
    USA první negativní reakce.
    ...
    http://lidovky.zpravy.cz/britove-vyzvali-k-radikalni-ekologicke-reforme-frh-/ln_zahranici.asp?c=A061030_135802_ln_zahranici_hlm



    Climate chaos? Don't believe it
    By Christopher Monckton, Sunday Telegraph
    Last Updated: 12:14am GMT 05/11/2006

    The Stern report last week predicted dire economic and social effects of unchecked global warming. In what many will see as a highly controversial polemic, Christopher Monckton disputes the 'facts' of this impending apocalypse and accuses the UN and its scientists of distorting the truth
    ...
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2006/11/05/nosplit/nwarm05.xml

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    ...
    Monckton has been in the news in recent months due to his skepticism of global warming. After U.S. Senators Rockefeller and Snowe wrote a letter to the Chief Executive Officer of ExxonMobil asking him to stop funding scientists who reject global warming, Lord Monckton wrote a letter to the senators reminding them of the First Amendment of the U.S. Constitution and calling for them to reverse their position or resign. [1]

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christopher_Monckton%2C_3rd_Viscount_Monckton_of_Brenchley
    KERRAY
    KERRAY --- ---
    // kliknete si kdyztak, je tam obrazek, formatovani a tak

    http://financialsense.com/fsu/editorials/martenson/2006/1217.html

    THE UNITED STATES IS INSOLVENT
    by Dr. Chris Martenson
    The End of Money
    December 17, 2006

    Prepare to be shocked.

    The US is insolvent. There is simply no way for our national bills to be paid under current levels of taxation and promised benefits. Our federal deficits alone now total more than 400% of GDP.

    That is the conclusion of a recent Treasury/OMB report entitled Financial Report of the United States Government that was quietly slipped out on a Friday (12/15/06), deep in the holiday season, with little fanfare. Sometimes I wonder why the Treasury Department doesn’t just pay somebody to come in at 4:30 am Christmas morning to release the report. Additionally, I’ve yet to read a single account of this report in any of the major news media outlets but that is another matter.

    But, hey, I understand. A report this bad requires all the muffling it can get.

    In his accompanying statement to the report, David Walker, Comptroller of the US, warmed up his audience by stating that the GAO had found so many significant material deficiencies in the government’s accounting systems that the GAO was “unable to express an opinion” on the financial statements. Ha ha! He really knows how to play an audience!

    In accounting parlance, that’s the same as telling your spouse “Our checkbook is such an out of control mess I can’t tell if we’re broke or rich!” The next time you have an unexplained rash of checking withdrawals from that fishing trip with your buddies, just tell her that you are “unable to express an opinion” and see how that flies. Let us know how it goes!

    Then Walker went on to deliver the really bad news:

    Despite improvement in both the fiscal year 2006 reported net operating cost and the cash-based budget deficit, the U.S. government’s total reported liabilities, net social insurance commitments, and other fiscal exposures continue to grow and now total approximately $50 trillion, representing approximately four times the Nation’s total output (GDP) in fiscal year 2006, up from about $20 trillion, or two times GDP in fiscal year 2000.

    As this long-term fiscal imbalance continues to grow, the retirement of the “baby boom” generation is closer to becoming a reality with the first wave of boomers eligible for early retirement under Social Security in 2008.

    Given these and other factors, it seems clear that the nation’s current fiscal path is unsustainable and that tough choices by the President and the Congress are necessary in order to address the nation’s large and growing long-term fiscal imbalance.

    Wow! I know David Walker’s been vocal lately about his concern over our economic future but it seems almost impossible to ignore the implications of his statements above. From $20 trillion in fiscal exposures in 2000 to over $50 trillion in only six years? What shall we do for an encore…shoot for $100 trillion?

    And how about the fact that boomers begin retiring in 2008…that always seemed to be waaaay out in the future. However, beginning January 1st we can start referring to 2008 as ‘next year’ instead of ‘some point in the future too distant to get concerned about now’. Our economic problems need to be classified as growing, imminent, and unsustainable.

    And let me clarify something. The $53 trillion shortfall is expressed as a ‘net present value’. That means that in order to make the shortfall disappear we’d have to have that amount of cash in the bank – today - earning interest (the GAO uses 5.7% & 5.8% as the assumed long-term rate of return). I’ll say it again - $53 trillion, in the bank, today. Heck, I don’t even know how much a trillion is let alone fifty-three of ‘em.

    And next year we’d have to put even more into this mythical interest bearing account simply because we didn’t collect any interest on money we didn’t put in the bank account this year. For the record, 5.7% on $53 trillion is a bit more than $3 trillion dollars so you can see how the math is working against us here. This means the deficit will swell by at least another $3 trillion plus whatever other shortfalls the government can rack up in the meantime. So call it another $4 trillion as an early guess for next year.

    Given how studiously our nation is avoiding this topic both in the major media outlets and during our last election cycle, I sometimes feel as if I live in a small mountain town that has decided to ignore an avalanche that has already let loose above in favor of holding the annual kindergarten ski sale.

    The Treasury department soft-pedaled the whole unsustainable gigantic deficit thingy in last year’s report but they have taken a quite different approach this year. From page 10 of the report:

    The net social insurance responsibilities scheduled benefits in excess of estimated revenues) indicate that those programs are on an unsustainable fiscal path and difficult choices will be necessary in order to address their large and growing long-term fiscal imbalance.

    Delay is costly and choices will be more difficult as the retirement of the ‘baby boom’ gets closer to becoming a reality with the first wave of boomers eligible for retirement under Social Security in 2008

    I don’t know how that could be any clearer. The US Treasury department has issued a public report warning that we are on an unsustainable path and that we face difficult choices that will only become more costly the longer we delay.

    Perhaps the reason US bonds and the dollar have held up so well is that we are far from alone in our predicament. In a recent article detailing why the UK Pound Sterling may fall, we read this horrifying evidence:

    Officially, [UK] public sector net debt stands at £486.7bn. That's equal to US$953.9bn and represents a little under 38% of annual GDP. Add the state's "off balance sheet" debt, however – including its pension promises to state-paid employees – and the total shoots nearly three times higher. Research by the Centre for Policy Studies in London says it would put UK government deficits at a staggering 103% of GDP.

    If we perform the same calculations for the US, however, we find that the official debt stands at $8.507 trillion or 65% of (nominal) GDP but when we add in our “off balance sheet” items the national debt stands at $53 trillion or 403% of GDP.

    Now that’s horrifying. Staggering. Whatever you wish to call it. More than four hundred percent of GDP(!). And that’s just at the federal level. We could easily make this story a bit more ominous by including state, municipal and corporate shortfalls. But let’s not do that.

    Here’s what the federal shortfall means in the simplest terms.

    1.

    There is no way to ‘grow out of this problem’. What really jumps out is that the US financial position has deteriorated by over $22 trillion in only 4 years and $4.5 trillion in the last 12 months (see table below, from page 10 of the report). The problem did not ‘get better’ as a result of the excellent economic growth over the past 3 years but rather got worse and is apparently accelerating to the downside.

    Any economic weakness will only exacerbate the problem. You should be aware that the budgetary assumptions of the US government are for greater than 5% nominal GDP growth through at least 2011. In other words, because no economic weakness is included in the deficit projections below, $53 trillion could be on the low side. Further, none of the long-term costs associated with the Iraq and Afghanistan wars are factored in any of the numbers presented (thought to be upwards of $2 trillion more).

    2.

    The future will be defined by lowered standards of living. As Lawrence Kotlikoff pointed out in his paper titled “Is the US Bankrupt?” posted to the St. Louis Federal Reserve website, the insolvency of the US will minimally require some combination of lowered entitlement payouts and higher taxes. Both of those represent less money in the taxpayer’s pockets and, last time I checked, less money meant a lower standard of living.
    3.

    Every government facing this position has opted to “print its way out of trouble”. That’s an historical fact and our country shows no indications, unfortunately, of possessing the unique brand of political courage required to take a different route. In the simplest terms this means you & I will face a future of uncomfortably high inflation, possibly hyperinflation if the US dollar loses its reserve currency status somewhere along the way.

    Of course, it is impossible to print our way out of this particular pickle because printing money is inflationary and therefore a ‘hidden tax’ on everyone. Consider, what’s the difference between having half of your money directly taken (taxed) by the government and having half of its value disappear due to inflation? Nothing. Except that the former is political suicide while the second is conveniently never discussed by the US financial mainstream press (for some reason) and therefore goes undetected by a majority of people as the thoroughly predictable outcome of deficit spending. All printing can realistically accomplish is the preservation of some DC jobs and the decimation of the middle and lower classes.

    In summary, I am wondering how long we can pretend this problem does not exist. How long can we continue to buy stocks and flip houses, forget to save, pile up debt, import Chinese made goods, and export debt? Are these useful activities to perform while there’s an economic avalanche bearing down upon us?

    Unfortunately, I am not smart enough to know the answer. I only know that hoping a significant and mounting problem will go away is not a winning strategy.

    I know that we, as a nation, owe it to ourselves to have the hard conversation about our financial future sooner rather than later. And I suspect that conversation will have to begin right here, between you and me because I cannot detect even the faintest glimmer that our current crop of leaders can distinguish between urgent and expedient.

    What we need is a good, old-fashioned grassroots campaign.

    In the meantime, I simply do not know of any way to fully protect oneself against the economic ravages resulting from poorly managed monetary and fiscal institutions. For what it’s worth, I am heavily invested in gold and silver and will remain that way until the aforementioned institutions choose to confront “what is” rather than “what’s expedient”. This could be a very long-term investment.

    Are you shocked?

    All the best.

    Chris
    KERRAY
    KERRAY --- ---
    CHARION: jo, v poho, jeste ze tu je Charion aby uvedl veci na pravou miru :)
    KERRAY
    KERRAY --- ---
    No, kazdopadne, odkaz na to video [ KERRAY @ world conspiracy // 911 // new world order ... part 4 ] jsem sem nedaval proto, abychom se zabyvali emisemi CO2, ale proto, ze mne zaujalo, jak se v podobnych kauzach prave ten mainstreamovy nazor tvori. Ze ti stejni vedci, kteri tvrdili, ze spojitost mezi kourenim cigaret a rakovinou plic je nejasna, pricemz jejich vyzkumy byly pres par klicek placene tabakovymi koncerny, dnes tvrdi, ze spojitost mezi lidskou cinnosti a oteplovanim je prinejlepsim neprokazana. A diky tomu, ze se malokdo pidi po hlubsich informacich, lidem staci ze "vedci" nebo "odbornici" neco rekli (a par novinaru to po sobe prevzalo a preinterpretovalo), muzou tihleti "vedci" (pry vetsinou lide z jinych oboru, od kterych na dane tema neproslo peer-reviewed magaziny ani pismenko) svymi nazory pusobit na mainstream. Zvou se navzajem na konference, cituji navzajem svoje clanky... a kdyz jim nekdo prinese pod nos dukazy, a zepta se jich co to jako ma znamenat, tak budou prohlasovat, ze "to neni jejich business" (ten chlapik v tom videu je doopravdy ukazkovy exemplar :)
    MARNEYY
    MARNEYY --- ---
    CAIDEL: Aniz bych se chtel zastavat tady, kriminalniho zivla Chariona, tak jsem nedavno slysel velmi zajimavou hypotezu o tom, ze nase vypousteni splodin do ovzdusi je jistou prirozenou kompenzaci toho, ze prakticky zcela vymizeli obrovske prirodni pozary. Tim, ze takove pozary byvaly driv zcela bezne, se podle odborniku uvolnovalo do ovzdusi obrovske mnozstvi popilku, co2 atd... Uvadim to jenom jako zajimavej nazor. IMHO si taky myslim, ze omezovat exhalace je potreba, minimalne kvuli "cistote" ovzdusi.
    JAXXE
    JAXXE --- ---
    The War on Shampoo

    "More propaganda than plot". Liquid bomb scare was a Home Office sponsored hoax

    by Craig Murray Global Research, December 18, 2006

    Google "Rashid Rauf - mastermind". On the first page of results you will find CBS, the BBC, the Times, Guardian and Mail all describing Rauf last summer, on security service or police briefing, as the "Mastermind" behind the "Liquid terror bomb plot". So the fact that a Pakistani court has found there is no evidence of terrorism against him cannot be lightly dismissed by the cheerleaders of the plot story.

    Rashid Rauf still faces other charges, including forgery, and what is touted as possession of explosives, although what he actually possessed was hydrogen peroxide, which is not explosive. As hydrogen peroxide is readily obtainable without limitation from any chemist or hardware store in the UK, why you would source it in Pakistan to blow up jets in Britain was never very convincing. The Pakistani court perhaps felt so too.

    Rashid Rauf has much to answer. He is still wanted in the UK over the murder of his uncle some years ago - a crime which, like the alleged forgery, had no apparent terrorist link. None of which adds to the credibility of the evidence he allegedly gave the Pakistani intelligence services about the liquid bomb plot in the UK.

    A second and simultaneous development is even more compelling evidence that this massive scare was, as I said at the time, "More propaganda than plot". Thames Valley police have given up after five months scouring the woods near High Wycombe where the bomb materials were allegedly hidden. They told the Home Office on 12 December that they would only continue if the government were prepared to meet the costs; they wished to get back to devoting their resources to real crimes, like armed robbery and burglary.

    Remember this was a plot described by the authorities as "Mass murder on an unimaginable scale" and "Bigger than 9/11". There have been instances in the UK of hundreds of police officers deployed for years to find an individual murderer. If the police really believed they were dealing with an effort at "Mass murder on an unimaginable scale", would they be calling off the search after five months? No.

    Which brings us to the lies that have been told - one of which concerns this search. An anonymous police source tipped off the media early on that they had discovered a "Suitcase" containing "bomb-making materials". This has recently been described to me by a security service source as "A lot of rubbish from someone's garage dumped in the woods". You could indeed cannibalise bits of old wire, clocks and car parts to form part of a bomb - perhaps you could enclose it in the old suitcase. But have they found stuff that is exclusively concerned with causing explosions, like detonators, explosives or those famous liquid chemicals? No, they haven't found any.

    ...

    Five British newspapers had to pay damages to a Birmingham man they accused, on security service briefing, of being part of the plot. Only the Guardian had the grace to publish the fact and print a retraction.

    A final fact to ponder. Despite naming him as the "mastermind" behind somethng "bigger than 9/11", the British government made no attempt to extradite Rashid Rauf on charges of terrorism.


    ...

    http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=MUR20061218&articleId=4190
    PETVAL
    PETVAL --- ---
    "The individual is handicapped by coming face-to-face with a conspiracy so monstrous he cannot believe it exists." J. Edgar Hoover

    ;)
    JAXXE
    JAXXE --- ---
    CHARION: dekujeme za psychologicky rozbor osobnosti ;) radsi to nebudu komentovat, mysli si co chces, mne je to fuk... kazdopadne proti tvemu bidne argumentovanemu tvrzeni, ze tobe pripada neco zrejme, je tu nekolik tisic clanku, casto z mainstream medii, nejen z ickeho webu...

    jeste pripomenu motto klubu:

    vse, co tu je, muze byt pravda, nebo uplna kravina. ukaze cas. klub slouzi spise jako sberna "oficialnich" i "neoficialnich" informaci. zaver necht si udela kazdy sam... diky za pochopeni. osobni utoky nejsou vitany

    co se FEDu tyce, koukni se na ten novy film "america - from freedom to fascism" nebo se treba podivej do obycejne wikipedie:

    The Federal Reserve System (also the Federal Reserve; informally The Fed) is the central banking system of the United States.

    The Federal Reserve System is a quasi-governmental banking system composed of (1) a presidentially-appointed Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System in Washington, D.C.; (2) the Federal Open Market Committee; (3) 12 regional Federal Reserve Banks located in major cities throughout the nation; and (4) numerous private member banks, which own varying amounts of stock in the regional Federal Reserve Banks.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_reserve
    JAXXE
    JAXXE --- ---
    McVeigh Video Destroys OKC Bombing Official Story

    Shows McVeigh was in military receiving instruction in "explosives and demolition" over a year after official story says he was discharged, whistleblower harassed for years while unknowingly in possession of bombshell tape


    Paul Joseph Watson & Alex Jones Prison Planet Friday, December 18, 2006

    A video that shows Oklahoma City bomber Timothy McVeigh at a U.S. military base that specializes in explosives and demolition training over a year after he supposedly left the army puts the official story of the April 19 1995 federal building bombing under serious doubt and mandates a re-opening of an investigation into the terror attack that killed 168 people.

    ...

    video:

    http://www.propagandamatrix.com/articles/december2006/181206mcveighvideo.htm
    BIO23
    BIO23 --- ---
    CHARION: jojojo,taky jem už na takovéto názory narazil a symptomy paranoidní schizofrenie byly vždy načas umlčeny...
    to s těma finančníma rezervama je samozřejmě trochu jinak,ale fakt je,že někdy už mám konspiračních teorií pokrk a rád se nechávám zviklat (patří tam měkké i?) skeptiky :o)))
    BEEJBI
    BEEJBI --- ---
    no co sa tyka globalneho oteplovania, to by bolo na dlho...ale hned aj keby emisie CO2 nemali vplyv, je urcite rozumne vypustat vsetko mozne svinstvo do ovzdusia? uz len z toho dovodu, ze to potom vsetci dychame? nemalo by sa to obmedzit uz len preto, ze je to proste znecistovanie bez ohladu na to, ci to sposobuje oteplovanie alebo nie?

    btw Charion, tu vlastne nikdy nikto netvrdil, ze toto vsetko je 100% pravda...kazdy si to moze prebrat jak chce...
    PETVAL
    PETVAL --- ---
    CHARION: nikdo nevlastni federalni rezervy

    doporucuji ti doplnit si vzdelani
    CAIDEL
    CAIDEL --- ---
    CHARION: Hele, kachna to není. Jak říkáš, je to "přírodní proces" (tak to nemůže být zároveň kachna), nicméně není to čistě přírodní proces... lidstvo tomu taky může drobet pomoct... Na tom se většina klimatologů shoduje. Myslíš, že tuny svinstev všemožného druhu (nejen CO2) co vypouštíme do atmosféry nemají vůbec žádný vliv? (což je alternativní hypotéza k: mají vliv).

    BTW: A že je efekt globálního oteplování zároveň bržděn globálním stmíváním, což už je čistě lidská záležitost, to je zas jiná věc...
    SUPAFLY
    SUPAFLY --- ---
    pueblo: servisni funkce? :)) je jich spousta co se daji spustit po siti :)
    Charion: o co ti jde?
    KERRAY
    KERRAY --- ---
    "vykazujete symptomy paranoidni schizofrenie" :)))
    KERRAY
    KERRAY --- ---
    http://www.cbc.ca/fifth/video_player.html?denial

    CBC documentary on Global Warming Deniers: The Denial Machine

    If the misinformation being flung around by the Global Warming Deniers sounds similar to the denials about the cancer risks from smoking, it's no co-incidence. The same gang of PR firms and scientists-for-hire are now shilling for the fossil fuel industry, trying to "refute" the validity of global warming...
    PUEBLO
    PUEBLO --- ---
    MARSHUS: doted jsem slysel ze bez vyndane baterky te dokazou lokalizovat...

    to odposlouchavani je ale mazec...imho pudou odposlechnout jen novejsi typy mobilu kteri maji v sobe Javu nebo Symbian OS...stare nepregramujes bez kabelu nebo vymeny SIM
    Kliknutím sem můžete změnit nastavení reklam