o to vic byli ukrajinci namotivovani bojovat, jelikoz se vedelo, ze tohle prijde...

GORG:

ale to prece neni nic noveho, ze Rusi ve valkach takhle vrazdi civilisty, to zatim delali ve vsech valkach kde byli, aby zabranili partyzanske valce a pomoci civilistu armade soupere... Ukrajinsti generalove to moc dobre vedi, jelikoz oni sami mnoha takovym jednotkam v sovetske armade veleli a tyto rozkazy sami plnili...

Rozhovor britskeho rappera Zubyho s Gonzalem Lirou aka. Coach Red Pill, zijicim v Charkove na Ukrajine o soucasne situaci v teto oblasti:

'Ukraine - What is Really Happening?' - Gonzalo Lira | Real Talk with Zuby #200
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFhkJZ3Dyb4


Gonzalo Lira is an American who’s lived in the Eastern Ukrainian city of Kharkiv for years and was in Kyiv at the start of the offensive. He shares his thoughts and observations on the conflict in a run of YouTube videos and posts on Telegram and Twitter.

OMNIHASH: Je otázka, jestli Putin taky není v Rusku to nejlepší v nabídce. Zirinovsky zemrel tak aspon ten uz ted nehrozi.
Kazdopadne dobre mit na pameti, ze kazdy politik a obzvlast herci jako Zelenovsky, muzou byt loutky tech, kteri ho financovali. A herci jsou na tohle idealni
Jeste tam byla tahle particka https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/mar/31/ukraine-darth-vader-president-internet-party

OMNIHASH: volici mozna, ale legalita je tam zjevne sporna, jestli muzeme tvrdit, ze byl Zelensky legalne konstitucionalne umisten jako prezident

It's not Russia that's pushed Ukraine to the brink of war | Seumas Milne | The Guardian
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/apr/30/russia-ukraine-war-kiev-conflict
When the Ukrainian president was replaced by a US-selected administration, in an entirely unconstitutional takeover, politicians such as William Hague brazenly misled parliament about the legality of what had taken place: the imposition of a pro-western government on Russia's most neuralgic and politically divided neighbour.

How William Hague Deceived the House of Commons on Ukraine | HuffPost UK Politics
https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/david-morrison/ukraine-willliam-hague_b_4933177.html

"It is wrong to question the legitimacy of the new authorities", he said.

It is simply untrue that the Rada followed the procedure laid down in the Ukrainian constitution to impeach and remove a president from power.

Article 108 of the constitution specifies four circumstances in which a president may cease to exercise power before the end of his term. Those are:

- resignation;
- inability to exercise his or her powers for reasons of health;
- removal from office by the procedure of impeachment;
- death.

The procedure for removal from office by impeachment is laid down in Article 111. It is not unlike that required for the impeachment and removal from power of a US president, which could take months.

Thus, Article 111 obliges the Rada to establish a special investigatory commission to formulate charges against the president, seek evidence to justify the charges and come to conclusions about the president's guilt for the Rada to consider. To find the president guilty, at least two-thirds of Rada members must assent.

Prior to a final vote to remove the president from power, the procedure requires

- the Constitutional Court of Ukraine to review the case and certify that the constitutional procedure of investigation and consideration has been followed, and
- the Supreme Court of Ukraine to certify that the acts of which the President is accused are worthy of impeachment.
- To remove the president from power, at least three-quarters of Rada members must assent.

The Rada didn't follow this procedure at all. No investigatory commission was established and the Courts were not involved. On 22 February, the Rada simply passed a bill removing President Yanukovych from office.

Furthermore, the bill wasn't even supported by three-quarters of Rada members as required by Article 111 - it was supported by 328 members, when it required 338 (since the Rada has 450 members).

Nevertheless, justifying UK support for the new regime in Kiev in the House of Commons on 4 March, William Hague said:

"Former President Yanukovych left his post and then left the country, and the decisions on replacing him with an acting President were made by the Rada, the Ukrainian Parliament, by the very large majorities required under the constitution, including with the support of members of former President Yanukovych's party, the Party of Regions, so it is wrong to question the legitimacy of the new authorities."

That gives the impression that the procedure prescribed in the Ukrainian constitution for the removal of a president from office had been followed, when in fact it hadn't and therefore the new authorities in Kiev are illegitimate.


// proto mi prijdou tim spis reci o tom, ze boj na ukrajine je ted je boj za demokracii, prave takovy zvlastni. vypada to, ze je tam spis peknej binec. a my ruznym vecem privirame ocka. i vuci nepotismu, co po usazeni do prezidentskeho kresla okamzite zacal praktikovat. (coz je uplne kontra jeho postave prezidenta ze serialu, ktera stala prave proti nepotismu, proti oligarchum.. za spravedlnost a pravdu... jako Babis :D ten tu prece prisel taky vymest korupci zejo )

OMNIHASH: prave, co kdyby to vyhrala ta prokremelska kobyla julia t. Ale pak by zase vedl putin valku proti ženě, a to by mohlo take vyburcovat slusny odpor... no dopadlo to jak to dopadlo

GORG: však nech na Ukrajincích, co si vyberou za prezidenta. Asi to bylo to nejlepší, co bylo v nabídce, a podle výkonů od začátku války to rozhodně mohlo dopadnout hůř. Zrovna my v tomhle směru můžeme maximálně šoupat nohama a stydět se v koutě.

ted jsem na fb natrefil na video asi jeste ze driv, kde nejaky ukrajinsky poslanec pri rozprave v parlamentu neco vycita Zelenskemu... prijdou za nem v prubehu typci a odtahnou ho pryc.
jo takhle nejak si predstavuju demokracii. co tam ma co zvanit obvineni Zelenskeho z korupce.

kdyz jsem na video koukal znovu tak se v prubehu prehravani zastavilo s varovanim utlocitneho Fb, ze video "obsahuje nasili nebo realisticke vyzobrazeni".. a zmizelo uplne. nice :) at zije brave new world order.

no nicmene tohle uz prosetrovala reportaz BBC vloni se i ptali Zelenskeho, co si mame myslet o jeho napojeni na z korupce obvineneho oligarchy kolomojskeho ci se jak jmenuje... Zelensky odpovedel, ze ale oligarchove vlastni na Ukrajine vsechno, takze to proto neznamena, ze vsichni lidi pracujici pro oligarchy jsou spatni.

no tasi jo... ale pokud mate prezidenta, ktery si postavil kampan na boj s oligarchy (vlastne tu samou postavu jako v serialu), tak je prave zvlastni, ze je financovany oligarchou, ktereho vysetrovala FBI za financni zlociny. konkretne mel pomoci jeho PrivatBank okrast ukrajinske veritele o miliardy dolaru do USA. a je proste oligarcha.. jak upozornili v BBC, ze v tom se to lisi od toho serialu, protoze postava prezidenta v serialu je prave grass roots.

GENERATION P trailer 2 | Festival 2011
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZGtd6MnTto


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