BUMBAR:
KAJJAK:
OMNIHASH: Panove, rada z vas stale nechape, ze tenhle klub neni urceny k nejakym polemikam mezi sebou.
Stejne jako v klubu s obrazkovymi vtipy chceme videt obrazkove vtipy, tady sbirame zdroje informaci primarne.. zpetne si je potom muzeme i dohledat... hur se to dohleda, kdyz tu bude spoustu chatu o tom, ze nekomu stoji za to napsat prispevek, ze on si mysli, ze ad hominem je vlastne mozna v poradku.. to uz je ciste pohrdani tady majitele diskuze se zdrzet nejakych debat

Jeste tu pak psat, ze haha je to vlastne cenzura pokrytecka. Ne to je o tom, ze tady na to neni prostor.
Me tyhle debaty vubec jinak nevadi, ale vzhledem k tomu, ze v ostatnim klubech na nychu o tom debatovat proste nelze.. do vetsiny politicky klubu mam uz permaban nekolik let. Takze na nychu diskuze o new world order mozna neni. Pro me je nych sam o sobe nametem na clanek, co hodim na blog, co je to tu za lidi ta elita.
:)

, stejně, jak se provalili ty rusové s BUKem nebo Pat a Mat u Skipalu. To není o ničem jiným než o tom, ze dneska existuje miriáda relativně dostupnejch informací a tooly, který s nima uměj pracovat. Podívej se na tu lokalizaci BUKu, to jsou všechno veřejně dostupný fotky ze sociálních sítí.

takze prosim reference. kde jsou ty dostupny fotky, o kterych mluvis?

ja onehda pred temi par lety nejake na belligcatu koukal a neprislo mi to zrovna presvedcive. media ukazovala videa z youtubu.. nekde jede BUK.. jak ja z toho poznam kudy jede?

Bellingcat je neco jako A. Jones Prison planet.. proste open source intelligence.. nejaky Brit co rozjel investigativni blog. Paradone v tomhle pripade masmediim staci jen jeden zdroj.. Bellingcat.

Takze prosim kdyz uz resis ty BUKy a ze je neco nekde dostupny, tak prave linkuj... protoze to je naopak to jediny, co sem prevazne davat :-) Ne si tady povidat o tom, jestli s technologickym pokrokem jsou konspirace jeste mozne, protoze se o vsem vi. Nekdy kdyz mame tyhle zdroje informaci tak nutne nic jiste nevime.. a treba az zpetne casem se to nejak vytribi, jak to vlastne spada do nejake syntezy, ci jestli je to vubec pravda ten informacni fragment. Dost lidi ma hodne sebejiste pohledy na Skripalovic a Vrbetice, Novicok.. a mela je uz ve chvili, kdy se to cerstve delo.

Jinak jak podminovat budovu , ktera je uzivana, je zajimava problematika, ale nic neresitelneho. Napriklad akce Gelitin

E TEAM - 9/11 GELATIN B-THING 🇮🇱
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-its6EG3DwA


Why is Gelitin’s B-Thing troubling & mysterious? – Public Delivery
https://publicdelivery.org/gelitin-b-thing/









the fuck is this art???

The Mysterious Gelatin Art Group Living in WTC prior to 911 - video Dailymotion
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5a8sp3

Gelitin - Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gelitin

Balcony Scene (Or Unseen) Atop the World; Episode at Trade Center Assumes Mythic Qualities - The New York Times
https://www.nytimes.com/2001/08/18/nyregion/balcony-scene-unseen-atop-world-episode-trade-center-assumes-mythic-qualities.html

9/11 and the Israeli Bomb Expert Infiltrated Art Groups: GELATIN (demo wiring team) and E-TEAM (sol-gel team) | PeakD
https://peakd.com/conspiracy/@budz82/9-11-and-the-israeli-bomb-expert-infiltrated-art-groups-gelatin-demo-wiring-team-and-e-team-sol-gel-team



vybuch v tom samem patre, kde Gelitin delali tu svou show.. a meli na fotce krabice nejakych komponent, co se podle toho nazvu pouzivaji na pripojovani vybusnin









BB18 - POWR Busbar Series - Dead Front Fuse Holders Fuse Blocks Fuseholders and Fuse Accessories - Littelfuse
https://www.littelfuse.com/products/fuse-blocks-fuseholders-and-fuse-accessories/dead-front-fuse-holders/powr-busbar/bb18.aspx



// dokazuje to, ze tam tihle Gelitin dali vybusniny, ktery zborily ty baraky? ne nutne.. ale je to rozhodne k zamysleni.. a vubec jakym zpusobem se takovy veci muzou delat, aniz by si toho nekdo vsiml.

OMNIHASH: Takže na to nemáš kapacitu

KAJJAK: pokud pripustis, ze by se jednalo o predem pripravenou rizenou demolici, tak jak bys zajistil, aby do toho jeste opravdu narazila ta letadla?

BUMBAR: Vsak si tu o konspiracich povidame na netech a stejne se dejou ne? :)

Pro tu predstavu proveditolnosti pri udrzeni tajemstvi... ze Projekt Manhattan , vyroba atomovky, mela hodne silne utajeni... presto o tom vykladal nejaky z generalu nekde na vecirku

Smlouva s Pfitzerem bude tajna pristich 55 let. Kazdy rok bude odtajneno 500 stran. Tech prvni 500 stran uz bylo zajimavych mam pocit.
To samozrejme nikomu nezabranilo... aby pani vladni namestkyne zdravotnictva, aby tvrdila, ze je to ukazkova dezinformace.

Prestoze je to nepopiratelna zjevne pravda, kdyz je to i na Reuters a tak

Wait what? FDA wants 55 years to process FOIA request over vaccine data | Reuters
https://www.reuters.com/legal/government/wait-what-fda-wants-55-years-process-foia-request-over-vaccine-data-2021-11-18/

As in 55 years beyond.

That’s how long the Food & Drug Administration in court papers this week proposes it should be given to review and release the trove of vaccine-related documents responsive to the request. If a federal judge in Texas agrees, plaintiffs Public Health and Medical Professionals for Transparency can expect to see the full record in 2076.

Presto namestkyne to v CT TV debate oznacila za dezinformaci. Dulezita je ideologicka cistota informace.. ne jestli je pravdiva nebo ne.

Imho je chyba myslet si, ze lidstvo v roce 1990 dospelo do jakesi finalni faze civizace, kdy korupce je v zasade vymetena, svoboda slova naprosto nezpochybnitelna, media vse hlidaji, a vsechny konspirace, intriky a zle veci, ktere se dely celou historii lidstva, uz od roku 1990 mavnutim proutku uz se proste nemohou stat. System je tak robustni, ze to neni mozne. Krome Ruska samozrejme :D Kde je to naopak modus operandi.

Podobne se pristupuje k medicinskym fiaskum v 20. stoleti.... tisice zdeformovanych lidi v jednom pripade.. .prekvapive na argument, proc ted neni duvod u covidu k obavam, bylo, ze tehdy FDA bylo zkorumpovane pry, takze tam byly vazby na vyrobce, ale ted uz je pry system FDA atd. tak robustni, ze uz takova selhani pry nejsou mozna...... imho jen tezka iluze

KAJJAK: Takže vlastně říkáš: "Dokázal bych si zdůvodnit, že si američani odpálili dvojčata sami". Ale rusko špatný!

Když je ten pátek

Děti trpí neznámým typem žloutenky. Mohou za to lockdowny? - CNN Prima NEWS
https://cnn.iprima.cz/deti-trpi-neznamym-typem-zloutenky-na-vine-mohou-byt-lockdowny-rikaji-experti-106601

Děti po celém světě se potýkají se žloutenkou neznámého původu. Britští odborníci přišli s nečekaným vysvětlením. Na vině podle nich může být pandemie covidu, ne však nemoc samotná, ale dlouhé lockdowny, kdy byly děti zavřené doma a jejich těla nebyla vystavena běžným virům. Po rozvolnění opatření je tak jejich imunitní systém zranitelnější.

Za poslední čtyři týdny bylo ve Velké Británii hlášeno celkem 114 případů „akutní hepatitidy neznámého původu“, píše web Daily Mail. Deset dětí navíc muselo podstoupit transplantaci jater. První případy byly zaznamenány ve Skotsku před necelým měsícem. Britští zdravotníci jsou od té doby ve střehu, protože za poslední tři měsíce se prý objevilo tolik nemocných, kolik by jindy očekávali za celý rok.

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Proč je ale nárůst počtu případů tak enormní? „Lockdowny během pandemie koronaviru mohly oslabit imunitu dětí a učinit je náchylnějšími k nemocem. Nebo mohl původce onemocnění zmutovat a představuje tak ještě větší hrozbu,“ cituje Daily Mail vyjádření řady místních lékařů.

Doktorka Meera Chandová, ředitelka oddělení klinických a nově se objevujících infekcí britské Agentury pro zdravotní bezpečnost (UKHSA), vysvětluje, že virem se nakazily mladší děti, protože mu nebyly vystaveny „během formativních fází, ve kterých byly během pandemie“.

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Deadly outbreak of children's hepatitis may have been brought on by lockdown weakening immunity | Daily Mail Online
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10753079/Deadly-outbreak-childrens-hepatitis-brought-lockdown-weakening-immunity.html

// no tohle jsem tehdy psal a byla to konspiracni teorie to o tom,ze prehnana izolace nam oslabi imunitu, protoze clovek ztrati beznou miru kontaktu s viry a bakteriemi obecne.

uz nevim, odkud se rozsirila hlaska, jaky je rozdil mezi konspiracni teorii a pravdou? 1 rok. pozdeji se zacalo rikat pul roku, a ted uz to nekdy vypada i jen 1 mesic nebo tyden.

proamericti trollove maji ukol jasny - za prve poukazat na to, ze clanek bulvarniho CNN Prima se odkazuje na clanek bulvarniho Daily Mail. tady se ad hominem jako kdyz najdes..
za druhe pak tvrdit, ze tohle prece nikdo nepopiral. A pak to znovu poprit :)

mezitim jsme se z nove studie dozvedeli podklady ukazujici, ze nemit lockdowny bylo pro Svedsko prospesne

What Sweden Got Right About COVID | Washington Monthly
https://washingtonmonthly.com/2022/04/19/what-sweden-got-right-about-covid/

In this intolerant atmosphere, Sweden’s “light touch,” as it is often referred to by scientists and policy makers, was deemed a disaster. “Sweden Has Become the World’s Cautionary Tale,” carped The New York Times. Reuters reported, “Sweden’s COVID Infections Among Highest in Europe, With ‘No Sign Of Decrease.’” Medical journals published equally damning reports of Sweden’s folly.

Stockholm Solution

But Sweden seems to have been right. Countries that took the severe route to stem the virus might want to look at the evidence found in a little-known 2021 report by the Kaiser Family Foundation. The researchers found that among 11 wealthy peer nations, Sweden was the only one with no excess mortality among individuals under 75. None, zero, zip.

That’s not to say that Sweden had no deaths from COVID. It did. But it appears to have avoided the collateral damage that lockdowns wreaked in other countries. The Kaiser study wisely looked at excess mortality, rather than the more commonly used metric of COVID deaths. This means that researchers examined mortality rates from all causes of death in the 11 countries before the pandemic and compared those rates to mortality from all causes during the pandemic. If a country averaged 1 million deaths per year before the pandemic but had 1.3 million deaths in 2020, excess mortality would be 30 percent.

There are several reasons to use excess mortality rather than COVID deaths to compare countries. The rate of COVID deaths ignores regional and national differences. For example, the desperately poor Central African Republic has a very low rate of fatalities from COVID. But that’s because it has an average life expectancy of 53. People in their 70s are3,000-fold more susceptible than children to dying of COVID, and even people in their 20s to 50s are far less likely to die than the elderly. So, it’s no surprise that the Central African Republic has a low COVID mortality rate despite its poverty and poor medical care. The U.S., by contrast, with its large elderly population (and general ill-health compared to most wealthy countries), was fertile soil for the coronavirus.

Excess mortality is the smart, objective standard. It includes all deaths, whether from COVID, the indirect effects of COVID (such as people avoiding the hospital during a heart attack), or the side effects of lockdowns. And it gets rid of the problem of underlying differences among countries, allowing a direct comparison of their performance during COVID.

Using data from the Human Mortality Database, a joint project of the CDC and the Max Planck Institute in Germany, Kaiser compared mortality during the five years before the pandemic and mortality in 2020, the first year of the pandemic. Sweden had zero excess mortality in 2020 among people younger than 75. In other words, COVID wasn’t all that dangerous to young people.

Even among the elderly, Sweden’s excess mortality in 2020 was lower than that in the U.S., Belgium, Switzerland, the U.K., the Netherlands, Austria, and France. Canada, Germany, and Australia had lower rates than Sweden among people over the age of 70—probably because Sweden failed to limit nursing home visits at the very beginning of the pandemic.

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The Kaiser results might seem surprising, but other data have confirmed them. As of February, Our World in Data, a database maintained by the University of Oxford, shows that Sweden continues to have low excess mortality, now slightly lower than Germany, which had strict lockdowns. Another study found no increased mortality in Sweden in those under 70. Most recently, a Swedish commission evaluating the country’s pandemic response determined that although it was slow to protect the elderly and others at heightened risk from COVID in the initial stages, its laissez-faire approach was broadly correct.

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According to a 2021 research letter, there wasn’t a single COVID death among Swedish children, despite schools remaining open for children under 16.

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Looking to the Future

Lockdowns may not come back when the next COVID surge hits, but many public health officials say masks likely will be. Even that may not be worth the effort, at least for kids in schools. Despite headlines claiming that they work, the only two decent scientific studies of masks found minimal benefit against COVID.

The more extensive study of the two, published last September, was used as ammunition to support school mask mandates—even though children had been excluded from the study. The study found that masks failed to prevent 90 percent of infections; only the elderly benefited modestly. Ashley Styczynski, one of the principal investigators, said “further study” was needed to know if masks provide any protection to kids.

Lidi meli dost objevny pocit objevu neceho unikatniho pro ruskou propagandu , ze pro to vznikl zcela specialni termin "rusti trollove".

Ve skutecnosti to neni nic specialniho. Navic o tzv. rusky trollech resp. tovarnach na trolly jsme se dozvedeli z Radia Svobodna Evropa, coz vzhledem k tomu, ze ho zalozila a dlouha leta financovala CIA, neni az moc odlisne jako kdyz neco rika Sputnik.

Revealed: US spy operation that manipulates social media | Hacking | The Guardian
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2011/mar/17/us-spy-operation-social-networks

Military's 'sock puppet' software creates fake online identities to spread pro-American propaganda

The US military is developing software that will let it secretly manipulate social media sites by using fake online personas to influence internet conversations and spread pro-American propaganda.

A Californian corporation has been awarded a contract with United States Central Command (Centcom), which oversees US armed operations in the Middle East and Central Asia, to develop what is described as an "online persona management service" that will allow one US serviceman or woman to control up to 10 separate identities based all over the world

The discovery that the US military is developing false online personalities – known to users of social media as "sock puppets" – could also encourage other governments, private companies and non-government organisations to do the same.

The Centcom contract stipulates that each fake online persona must have a convincing background, history and supporting details, and that up to 50 US-based controllers should be able to operate false identities from their workstations "without fear of being discovered by sophisticated adversaries".

nejaky namatkovy brainstorming

https://www.odni.gov/files/PE/Documents/Media-Strategies.pdf

However, there are types of events that can be
anticipated and US messengers can more readily respond to international events by
preparing a number of messages in advance to circumvent lengthy approval processes.
Moreover, having these key messages planned in advance can help ensure less reactive,
sustained strategic messages are incorporated and reinforced in quick turnaround
communications to press and other outlets. Prepackaged messages could then be released by
more automated means if there is a network of message champions established to help
diffuse and reemphasize with desired audiences. This sentiment was echoed in a suggestion
that the US should have a steady flow of social media accounts transmitting in a domestic
medium similar to the Voice of America.2 Additionally, government messages should
leverage the information cycle to expand penetration of messages, for example, tying a
related message to a current event. Advertisers reported keeping calendars of upcoming
world events to be able to launch a social media message tying their product to trending
news, such as the birth in the British royal family to improve it chances of wider circnation

Americanum priznam, ze o rusky propagande se tohle asi v Pravde nedoctete :-)

Za me, kdyby mi ted nekdo namiril zbran na hlavu, at si zvolim emigraci do USA nebo Ruska, tak si asi volim USA radeji.

KAJJAK: ...a lhani neni jejich denni chleba... Na to jsi prisel jak? Sledovanim CNN?

Integrace migrantů ve Švédsku selhala, přiznala premiérka. Zvýšilo se násilí - iDNES.cz
https://www.idnes.cz/zpravy/zahranicni/integrace-svedsko-migranti-premiera-selhani-vznik-gangu.A220428_165058_zahranicni_misl

„Segregace došla tak daleko, že ve Švédsku máme paralelní společnosti. Žijeme ve stejné zemi, ale v naprosto odlišných realitách,“ řekla premiérka.

ruska propaganda zasahla i svedskou premierku? :) ze je ve Svedsku paralelni spolecnost imigrantu je oblibena konspiracni teorie proruskych trollu