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    GORGworld conspiracy // 911 // free world order! ... part 5 ::
    GORG
    GORG --- ---
    Georgia Guidestones monument is destroyed after explosion
    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/georgia-monument-called-satanic-gubernatorial-candidate-destroyed-expl-rcna37039
    A Georgia monument that drew curious visitors and was derided by a gubernatorial candidate as satanic was destroyed Wednesday after authorities said someone detonated an explosive device at the site.

    The Georgia Guidestones, a granite monument adorned with a message about the conservation of humanity, was demolished for safety reasons after the 4 a.m. explosion in Elbert County, the Georgia Bureau of Investigation said in a statement.

    The agency released surveillance video showing the explosion and a silver sedan leaving the scene shortly after the detonation.

    No motive has been identified and the agency has only said that “unknown individuals” detonated the device.

    The monument — dubbed “America’s Stonehenge” — stood at 19 feet and contained a 10-part message in 12 languages, according to the tourism site Explore Georgia.

    Image: Law enforcement officials walk around the damaged Georgia Guidestones monument near Elberton, Ga., on July 6, 2022.
    Law enforcement officials walk around the damaged Georgia Guidestones monument near Elberton, Ga., on July 6, 2022.Rose Scoggins / The Elberton Star via AP
    Christopher Kubas, executive vice president of the Elberton Granite Association, which helped maintain the site, said that it drew more than 20,000 visitors annually, NBC affiliate WYFF of Greenville, South Carolina, reported.

    The message called for keeping the earth's population under 500 million "in perpetual balance with nature," a "living new language" and to "guide reproduction wisely," among other things, according to the Elbert County Chamber of Commerce.

    An account of the site's origins on the chamber's website says that it was funded by an anonymous "small group of loyal Americans who believe in God" and lived outside of Georgia.

    The group wanted to leave a message for future generations, according to the account.

    Speaking Wednesday, Kubas said that some found the message offensive and that the monument had previously been spray painted, WYFF reported.

    A former gubernatorial candidate, Republican Kandiss Taylor, had pledged to turn the monument "to dust" were she to have been elected. Taylor placed third in the state's May 24 primary after winning 3.4 percent of the vote.

    In a video Wednesday, she said she believed God had struck down the monument, which she referred to in a tweet as "Satanic Guidestones."

    "Until I see a video that shows me anything but what looked like lightning or the hand of God moving on a situation, I'm going to believe it was God," she said. "If it was vandalism, then there's cameras everywhere."

    “Those people should be brought to justice,” she said, adding that she didn’t support demolishing the structure via means “outside of our legal system.”

    The monument was located in Elbert County, in the northeastern part of Georgia across the Savannah River from South Carolina.



    https://edition.cnn.com/2022/07/07/us/georgia-guidestones-explosion/index.html
    For safety reasons, the structure has been "completely demolished," the GBI said.

    GORG
    GORG --- ---
    https://docplayer.net/184314299-Common-sense-renewed.html
    Sometimes we must choose the least evil within an array of evils.

    ...

    In recent years similar cloning has been achieved with certain animals, including some verte-brates. In theory a human being could be reproduced in like fashion.

    ...

    In these delicate areas of moral judgment humanity must rely on the collective conscience of our race. No single individual or group should impose its position on others until a consensus has been developed from the best informed and most compas-sionate spokesmen from all groups.

    ...

    Reproduction is no longer exclusively a personal matter. Society must have a voice and some power of direction in regulating this vital function. The desires of human couples are very important, but they must not neglect a consideration of society at large. The general welfare of this and future genera-tions must be given increasing consideration as we develop plans for rational guidance of our procreation. No person should be brought into the world unwanted and unneeded. No child should be conceived through carelessness. If each life is to have value, every conception must be part of an ordered plan of two parents who are aware of their responsi-bilities to that child and to society. It is vitally important that each national government have a considered "Population Policy." The need is urgent and should take precedence over other problems, even those relating to national defense. Population control is a global prob-lem. The actions of one nation have far reaching effects on others. Overcrowding human beings in conditions of squalor and ignorance is dehumanising. It is an evil which must not be tolerated. Each nation must consider the present and future availability of all resources required for its long continuing survival. With proper allowances for the interchange of commodities that are overabundant in some areas and scarce in others, rational esti-mates must be made of the optimum population which can be sustained by those resources on a perpetual time scale. Each nation must make this determination for its own people. It may give assistance to its neighbors as it chooses and as its assistance is requested. But in the final analysis each nation must determine its own population goals and must formulate plans that will achieve them. No nation, having regulated its own population, should be expected to burden its citizens with the unwanted surplus of improvident neighbors. Nations with optimum populations can provide comfort and education for their own citizens and can give assistance to others. They can be good world citizens. Nations which are overcrowded and poverty stricken are problems for the entire world community.

    ...

    Repro-duction will become fully controllable through humane and rational means. Failure to utilize those means may ultimately be the greatest evil of all.

    ...

    We can deal with the problem by devising a formal code of social behavior, and enforcing it with effective legal and economic supports. Children and adults must be made aware of the obligations as well as the benefits of citizenship. Irresponsible parenting must not be tolerated or encouraged.

    ...

    Humanity has successfully applied practical genetic princi-ples in developing domesticated plants and animals. It is now within our power to begin the domestication of our own species in a parallel fashion.

    ...

    Docility, loyalty, and other desired qualities have been selec-tively augmented by human intervention and control over the breeding patterns of "man's best friend," the dog. We could one day achieve comparable but much more important modifi-cations in our own nature if we were to begin a conscious and sustained effort to direct our own genetics.

    ...

    Nations which fail to guide childbearing and child rearing will not only suffer the effects of overpopulation, they will also be represented in the world of tomorrow by citizens of sub-optimal capabilities.
    ...

    But national languages may also be divisive, and can permit islands of misunderstanding to develop and grow into sources of major difficulty.

    ...

    We suggest that scholars throughout the world begin now to establish new bases upon which later generations can develop a totally new universal language for men and machines. It will be adapted to our speech mechanisms and to the language faculties and patterns impressed in our nervous systems. Its spoken and printed forms will be capable of accurate inter-change by electromechanical means.

    ...

    When the central cluster of the Georgia Guidestones was completed our small sponsoring group was disbanded, leaving the monument in the safekeeping of the people of Elbert Coun-ty, Georgia. If the inscriptions are dimmed by wind and sun and time we ask you to cut them deeper. If the stones should fall, or be scattered by people of little understanding, we ask you to raise them up again.

    ...

    We should consider making the right to vote conditional. We might, for example, impose certain educational requirements. In a society which provides tax-paid educational opportunities for everyone, we should require proof of understanding of our government and its history and problems as a prerequisite for voting. It would undoubtedly improve the quality of government if voters were required to pass a simple test covering the structure of our government, our history, and our general economic system. Our citizens must now pass a comparable examination to qualify for driving on our streets and highways.

    ...

    Mark Twain once suggested that our voting system should be modified to permit additional votes for selected citizens, based upon objective qualifications. These might include age, military service, and other indicators of civic responsibility. It would be reasonable to require evidence of economic pro-ductivity as a qualification for voting. Citizens who long remain on public relief rolls, performing no services to compensate for their financial support by the taxpayers, should not vote.

    knizka od autora georgia guidestonu

    dost se to prekryva s klasickym uvazovanim malthuziancu.. omezene zdroje, potreby spolecnosti prevysuji potreby casto nezodpovedneho jednotlivce, kteri tak ohrozuji preziti lidstva jako takoveho.

    tohle je samozrejme zcela kontra k libertarianum nebo pripadne anarchokapitalismu... naopak min jinym lidem kecat do jejich zivota. netvarit se, ze nekdo spolkl vsechnu moudrost sveta, a ted i treba nasilim spasi cely svet. nejakym svym moudrym a laskyplnym systemem, ktery z kazdeho vytahne to nejlepsi, a vsichni budeme poslusni svetoobcane. plni lasky a porozumeni.

    ten text je v podstate moderni verze znovu toho sameho all over again..

    v podobnem duchu taky Unesco: its Purpose and Philosophy od Juliana Huxleyho

    https://unesdoc.unesco.org/ark:/48223/pf0000068197

    pomnik tam za asi tedy nemale penize vztycil nejaky tenhle anonym, ale zajimave, ze ho stat ci kdo chranil, kamerama, policii.. protoze zjevne lidi kolem tehle ideologie maji sve lidi na ruznych mistech.. v OSN, na zastupitelstvich okresu atd.

    tyhle myslenky vedly k nacisticky genocide. jenze dost lidi, jak to ma trosickou jinou formu, jine symboly, jine ramovani, tak to tam nejsou schopni videt. Julian Huxley zpusobil nucenou sterilizaci pres 100 000 Americanu. a presto se stal po valce sefem UNESCO.

    https://www.jstor.org/stable/41488441


    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4366572/
    He linked his evolutionary ethics to the social agenda of eugenics: it meant approval for family allowances to encourage professional middle classes to have children of (hopefully) good eugenic quality, and the elimination of mental defect by reproductive controls.37 He explained that eugenicists should avoid a “holocaust” of the unfit by segregating mental defectives to prevent their reproduction.38 The economic and social system had to be altered to advance the reproduction of “the most successful stocks” particularly of the professional classes.39 Huxley advocated the ideas of eugenics as a sacred ideal and of “racial hope”, so that religion would advance his ideals of social evolution.

    Huxley was always at pains to differentiate his views of eugenics from Nazism.
    ...

    After the war, Huxley advocated that science should be a means of social reconstruction. He supported through UNESCO an observer at the Nuremberg Medical Trial (a role taken by his protégé the neuro-physiologist John Thompson).27 But his stance towards Nazi biologists became indulgent as can be seen in his support of Konrad Lorenz. At Unesco Huxley had uneasy relations with both British and US officialdom. From Huxley’s perspective, state officials were part of the problem of unscientifically minded vested interests, while government officials in turn suspected Huxley of leftish leanings.28 An interview at the US State Department raised the issue whether UNESCO aimed to make “the scientists as dictators of political policy”.29 But the Soviet attack on genetics meant Huxley became a scourge of Stalinist biology.30 Huxley aligned with those like the pharmacologist Henry Dale supporting a revival of German science, and engaged strenuously on behalf of the ethologist Lorenz.31

    ...

    Not only was Huxley a pivotal figure in 1950s reproductive biology in the UK, but he also preached the application of biology to medicine. He called medicine “death control”, seeing it as the inverse of birth control, which he prioritised. Innes Pearce wrote to Huxley of her hopes to turn the Pioneer Health Centre at Peckham (the holistic “Peckham Experiment”) into a national laboratory for the pursuit of human biology. The idea was to develop the core question of “what is health” in biological and experimental terms.32

    As the first Director-General of Unesco from 1946 to 1948 Huxley outlined a biologically based philosophy.33 He can be interpreted as part of a wave of visionary experts who took command of the new United Nations organisations after the Second World War (as the nutritionist John Boyd Orr in the Food and Agriculture Organisation, Ludwik Rajchman in conceiving of Unicef, and John Holmes in the UN Human Rights Division), before these organisations felt the controlling chill of cold war power politics.34 In his key manifesto, “Unesco: its Purpose and Philosophy” of 1946, he advocated a “scientific world humanism” based on evolutionary biology. He saw culture as a higher stage of evolution, supplanting natural selection in human societies. He argued for quality over quantity as regards the world’s population, and that human population size should be planned and controlled. At the same time he called for animal conservation. He even maintained that Unesco should begin to examine “the eugenic problem”, while recognising that a radical eugenic policy was at the time unrealistic in terms of public attitudes.

    Od nacismu se distancoval, ale ten rozdil je, ze on neresil rasu... chtel slechtit kazdou rasu. Kritizoval nedemokraticnost nacismu, ale sam stal u zrodu nucenych sterilizaci. Sic ty asi byly demokraticke skutecne.. pokud to schvalila zvolena vlada, pak ano, je to demokracie.
    Moderni "nacismus" je nabalen na diverzitu, ochranu lidskych prav, spolecne dobro a symbolem neni hakovy kriz ale duha. A genetickeho slechteni lidskeho pleme. Znovu nachazime prunik s WEF, Schwabem, o biologicke modifikaci na geneticke a technologicke urovni pomoci augmentu. To ani nemusi byt cele spiknuti ale idea, ktera fici a jede. Jak rika Schwab.. modifikovani lide budou mit kratsi sirku vuci modifikovanym... predstavte si, ze si pres augmentaci nahrajete do hlavy vzdelani jako software napriklad. Nebo jste jinak mene vyvinuti

    Jak tam pise i ten Christian "citizens of sub-optimal capabilities."

    COVID pasy, socialni kredit, transhumanismus, smirovani (i myslenek) ale i spotreby energie a miry prospesnosti pro spolecnost.. to asi bude ta synteza toho vseho ted po 100 letech. A kdyz treba bude spolecnost uz zrala na zodpovedny pristup k eugenice, tak treba prijdou nucena/"dobrovolna" eutanazie.

    Paranoidni lidi to ale vidi i v krocich jako sankce proti Rusku nebo COVID lockdowny, ktere potencialne muzou uvest do zivotnich problemu miliony lidi.. hladem, nedostatkem tepla v zime, zhorsovanim zdravi...

    Je mozne, ze by byl takovy plan? Ze by to byl zamer nekterych lidi? Vhodne je si uvedomit, ze tuhle ideu o radikalni populacni kontrole sdileji elity sveta uz minimalne 100 let ,takze je to uveritelne, a mohou realizovat nektere plany s pocitem nebo oduvodnenim, ze je to "lesser evil" nez aby lidstvo vymrelo nebo byla planeta znicena, a v utajeni protoze by to lide proste jako masa neprijali, ze se musi obetovat. Jak tu kdosi psal v klubu, ze nekdy proste elity proste musi rozhodnout za lidi pro vyssi dobro. Mozna za tim stoji nejaci satanisti nebo temne entity, ale verim, ze dost lidi muze verit, ze dela dobro pro vsechny. Vsechny tyhle texty jsou plne idealismu, utopismu..

    Co ja na tech ruznych textech i ruznych vyjadrenich pak WEF a Extinction Rebellion je znat, ze oni si prozpevujou stejny popevek (ruzne buzzwords, koncepty, fraze, ideje).. malokdy tam ale vidime nejake volani po dystopii.. aspon ne primocare.. ne lepsi harmonictejsi, svobodnejsi, spravedlivejsi, vetsi kvalita zivota, stesti, laska, zrusit hranice, vsichni se obejmou a vsichni budou mit vse, co potrebuji. A budou stastni.. a korporace dostanou pres zadek lidmi, spravedlivymi a moudrymi NGO.... dystopie se z toho stava zrejme v momente, kdy narazi na problemy. Tak se to otaci v drakonianstejsi povahu. Zatim to tak bylo vzdy. Uz samotny pocit, ze ztraci nad necim kontrolu, je vede k pritvrzeni. Behem COVIDu jsme to videli ukazkove. Ted jeste s Ukrajinou pritvrzujou.. uz pomalu chystaji vezeni za nazor. Protoze oni nemuzou dovolit svobodny tok informaci, protoze by to mohlo ohrozit jejich Velke dilo. At uz je to ochrana pred Rusaky nebo virem nebo zniceni planety, ci nejaka predstava o lepsi spolecnosti.

    (Za me neni nutne problem, kdyz si nekdo rozjizdi nejake sve teorie o zuslechtovani lidske rasy nebo spolecnosti, ale to vynucovani na ostatnich. Treba maji dokonce s tim vsim pravdu.. a treba je opravdu nekonecne pohlavi, ktere je jen socialni konstrukt atd. Ale nelibi se mi to vynucovani.)

    Jinak trochu neplanovane jsem si u toho rozjel tyhle syntezy... pokud tomu chce nekdo oponovat, drzme se faktu, takze zdroje, reference.. to nejak vyvracejici.
    RIVA
    RIVA --- ---
    MTO:

    GEORGIA "GUIDESTONES" EXPLOSION FOOTAGE
    https://www.bitchute.com/video/u79bakKctHiB/
    RIVA
    RIVA --- ---
    RIVA
    RIVA --- ---
    RAGAMUFF: Ja bych rekl ze to byla Alkajda ;)
    RAGAMUFF
    RAGAMUFF --- ---
    RIVA: Já bych řekl že progresivní kolaps, jak víme, tak těleso padající na další těleso nabírá energii tím, jak energii vynakládá na destrukci. Takže stačí jedna kapka deště a horní kámen začne nabírat energii a projede kameny pod ním.
    RIVA
    RIVA --- ---
    MTO:
    BOOM! Georgia Guidestones Struck Down
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IajL4AJp1WU
    KUKIDE
    KUKIDE --- ---
    MTO: ty jooo fuck this .... to je hustá věc ... ta amerika hustý...
    MTO
    MTO --- ---
    Georgia Guidestones damaged by explosive device, GBI says
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1k4l9mtestE
    GORG
    GORG --- ---
    ad RIVA:

    treba prvni tam zmineny text jsem nasel zdroj

    text pojednava o jeho experimentech v roce 1919 behem tzv. Spanelske chripky ji prenest z cloveka na cloveka pomoci kapenek. V clanku pise, ze se mu to ani v jednom z pripadu nepodarilo, ani kdyz si nechali dobrovolnici nakychat primo do pusy od nemocneho cloveka s chripkou.

    tomu se mi popravde ani nechtelo verit, ze by vubec nejaky dobrovolnik do takovyho pokusu sel, ale zjevne asi autenticke, ani ten vedec neni zadne orezavatko, viz nize.

    https://greatmountainpublishing.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/Experiments-on-Flu-Spread-by-Rosenau.pdf
    EXPERIMENTS TO DETERMINE MODE
    OF SPREAD OF INFLUENZA
    MILTON J. ROSENAU, M.D.
    BOSTON
    The experiments here described were performed on
    an island in Boston Harbor, on volunteers obtained
    from the Navy. The work was conducted by a group
    of officers detailed for that purpose, from the U. S.
    Navy and the U. S. Public Health Service, consisting
    of Dr. G. W. McCoy, director of the Hygienic
    Library, Dr. Joseph Goldberger, Dr. Leake, and Dr.
    Lake, all on the part of the U. S. Public Health Service; and cooperating with those medical officers, was
    a group also detailed for this purpose on the part of
    the U. S. Navy, consisting of Dr. J. J. Keegan, Dr.
    De Wayne Richey and myself.
    The work itself was conducted at Gallops Island,
    which is the quarantine station of the Port of Boston,
    and peculiarly well fitted for operations of this kind,
    serving adequately for the purposes of isolation,
    observations, and maintenance of the large group of
    volunteers and personnel necessary to take care of
    them.
    The volunteers were all of the most susceptible
    age, mostly between 18 and 25, only a few of them
    around 30 years old ; and all were in good physical
    condition. None of these volunteers, 100 all told in
    number, had "influenza ;" that is, from the most care¬
    ful histories that we could elicit, they gave no account
    of a febrile attack of any kind during the winter,
    except a few who were purposely selected, as having
    shown a
    typical attack of influenza, in order to test
    questions of immunity, and for the purpose of control.
    Now, we proceeded rather cautiously at first by
    administering a pure culture of bacillus of influenza,
    Pfeiffer's bacillus, in a rather moderate amount, into
    the nostrils of a few of these volunteers.
    These early experiments I will not stop to relate,
    but I will go at once to what I may call our Experi¬
    ment 1.
    EXPERIMENTS AT GALLOPS ISLAND
    As the preliminary trials proved negative, we became
    bolder, and selecting nineteen of our volunteers, gave
    each one of them a very large quantity of a mixture of
    thirteen different strains of the Pfeiffer bacillus, some
    of them obtained recently from the lungs at necropsy;
    others were subcultures of varying age, and each of the
    thirteen had, of course, a different history. Suspen
    sions of these organisms were sprayed with an atomi¬
    zer into the nose and into the eyes, and back into the
    throat, while the volunteers were breathing in. We
    used some billions of these organisms, according to
    our estimated counts, on each one of the volunteers,
    but none of them took sick.

    Then we proceeded to transfer the virus obtained
    from cases of the disease ; that is, we collected the
    material and mucous secretions of the mouth and nose
    and throat and bronchi from cases of the disease and
    transferred this to our volunteers. We always
    obtained this material in the same way : The patient
    with fever, in bed, has a large, shallow, traylike
    arrangement before him or her, and we washed out one
    nostril with some sterile salt solution, using perhaps
    5 ce., which is allowed to run into this tray ; and that
    nostril is blown vigorously into the tray. This is
    repeated with the other nostril. The patient then
    gargles with some of the solution. Next we obtain
    some bronchial mucus through coughing, and then we
    swab the mucous surface of each nares and also the
    mucous membrane of the throat. We place these
    swabs with the material in a bottle with glass beads,
    and add all the material obtained in the tray. This is
    the stuff we transfer to our volunteers. In this par¬
    ticular experiment, in which we used ten volunteers,
    each of them received a comparatively small quantity
    of this, about 1 c.c. sprayed into each nostril and into
    the throat, while inspiring, and on the eye. None of
    these took sick. Some of the same material was fil¬
    tered and instilled into other volunteers but produced
    no results.

    Now, I may mention at this point that the donors
    were all patients with influenza iti Boston hospitals ;
    sometimes at the U. S. Naval Hospital at Chelsea,
    sometimes at the Peter Bent Brigham Hospital, where
    we had access to suitable cases. We always kept in
    mind the fact that we have no criterion of influenza ;
    therefore I would like to emphasize the fact that we
    never took an isolated case of fever, but selected our
    donors from a distinct focus or outbreak of the dis¬
    ease, sometimes an epidemic in a school with 100 cases,
    from which we would select four or five typical cases,
    in order to prevent mistakes in diagnosis of influenza.
    Now, thinking that perhaps the failure to reproduce
    the disease in the experiments that I have described
    was due to the fact that we obtained the material in
    the hospitals in Boston, and then took it down the bay
    to Gallops Island, which sometimes required four
    hours before our volunteers received the material, and
    believing that the virus was perhaps very frail, and
    could not stand this exposure, we planned another
    experiment, in which we obtained a large amount of
    material, and by special arrangements, rushed it
    down to Gallops Island ;
    so that the interval between
    taking the material from the donors and giving it to
    our volunteers was only one hour and forty minutes,
    all told. Each one of these volunteers in this experi¬
    ment, ten in number, received 6 c.c. of the mixed stuff
    that I have described. They received it into each
    nostril ;
    received it in the throat, and on the eye ;
    and
    when you think that 6 c.c. in all was used, you will
    understand that some of it was swallowed. None of
    them took sick.

    Then, thinking perhaps it was not only the time
    that was causing our failures, but also the salt solution
    •—for it is possible that the salt solution might be
    inimical to the virus—-we planned another experiment,
    to eliminate both the time factor and the salt solution,
    and all other outside influences. In this experiment we
    had little cotton swabs on the end of sticks, and we
    transferred the material directly from nose to nose
    and from throat to throat, using a West tube for the
    throat culture, so as to get the material not only from
    the tonsils, but also from the posterior nasopharynx.
    We used nineteen volunteers for this experiment,
    and it was during the time of the outbreak, when we
    had a choice of many donors. A few of the donors
    were in the first day of the disease. Others were in
    the second or third day of the disease. None of these
    volunteers who received the material thus directly
    transferred from cases took sick in any way.
    When
    I say none of them took sick in any way, I mean that
    after receiving the material they were then isolated
    on Gallops Island. Their temperature was taken three
    times a day and carefully examined, of course, and
    under constant medical supervision they were held
    for one full week before they were released, and per¬
    haps used again for some other experiment. All of
    the volunteers received at least two, and some of them
    three "shots" as they expressed it.
    Our next experiment consisted in injections of
    blood. We took five donors, five cases of influenza in
    the febrile stage, some of them again quite early in
    the disease. We drew 20 'c.c. from the arm vein of
    each, making a total of 100 c.c, which was mixed and
    treated with 1 per cent, of sodium citrate. Ten c.c. of
    the citrated whole blood were injected into each of the
    ten volunteers. None of them took sick in any way.
    Then we collected a lot of mucous material from the
    upper respiratory tract, and filtered '
    it through Mandler filters. While these filters will hold back the
    bacteria of ordinary size, they will allow "ultramicroscopic" organisms to pass. This filtrate was injected
    into ten volunteers, each one receiving 3.5 c.c. subcutaneously, and none of these took sick in any way.
    The next experiment was designed to imitate the
    natural way in which influenza spreads, at least the
    way in which we believe influenza spreads, and I have
    no doubt it does—by human contact. This experi¬
    ment consisted in bringing ten of our volunteers from
    Gallops Island to the U. S. Naval Hospital at Chelsea,
    into a ward having thirty beds, all filled with influenza.
    We had previously selected ten of these patients to
    be the donors ; and now, if you will follow me with
    one of our volunteers in this ward, and remember that
    the other nine were at the same time doing the same
    thing, we shall have a picture of just what was hap¬
    pening in this experiment :
    The volunteer was led up to the bedside of the patient; he
    was introduced. He sat down alongside the bed of the patient.
    They shook hands, and. by instructions, he got as close as
    he conveniently could, and they talked· for live minutes. At
    the end of the five minutes, the patient breathed out as hard as
    he could, while the volunteer, muzzle to muzzle (in accord¬
    ance with his instructions, about 2 inches between the two),
    received this expired -breath, and at the same time was
    breathing in as the patient breathed out. This they repeated
    five times, and they did it fairly faithfully in almost all of
    the instances.
    After they had done this for five times, the patient coughed
    directly into the face of the volunteer, face to face, five différ¬
    ent times.
    I may say that the volunteers were perfectly splendid about
    carrying out the technic of these experiments. They did it
    with a high idealism. They were inspired with the thought
    that they might help others. They went through the program
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    in a splendid spirit. After our volunteer had had this sort of
    contact with the patient, talking and chatting and shaking
    hands with him for five minutes, and receiving his breath five
    times, and then his cough five times directly in his face, he
    moved to the next patient whom we had selected, and
    repeated this, and so on, until this volunteer had had that
    sort of contact with ten different cases of influenza, in differ¬
    ent stages of the disease, mostly fresh cases, none of them
    more than three days old.
    We will remember that each one of the ten volunteers
    had that sort of intimate contact with each one of the
    ten different influenza patients. They were watched
    carefully for seven days—and none of them took sick
    in any way.

    EXPERIMENTS AT PORTSMOUTH
    At that point, the holidays came, our material was
    exhausted, and we temporarily suspended our work.
    In fact, we felt rather surprised and somewhat per¬
    plexed, and were not sure as to the next way to turn,
    and we felt it would be better to take a little breathing
    spell and a rest.
    We started another set of experiments in February that lasted into March, again using fifty volunteers
    carefully selected from the Deer Island Naval Train¬
    ing Station. These experiments I will not give in
    detail. They would take too long. They were simply
    designed and the program was carefully planned, but
    the way matters turned out became very confusing
    and perplexing. I will give two instances to explain
    what I mean by that ; and I give them because they are
    exceedingly instructive and very interesting.
    In February and March, the epidemic was on the
    wane. We had difficulty in finding donors. We were
    not sure of our diagnosis, having no criterion of influ¬
    enza. We therefore felt very fortunate when we
    learned of an outbreak that was taking place at the
    Portsmouth Naval Prison, only a few hours north of
    Boston. We at once loaded a couple of automobiles
    filled with our volunteers, and rushed up to Ports¬
    mouth, and there repeated many things that I have
    described in our first set of experiments. At Ports¬
    mouth, out of a large number of cases, we made our
    selections carefully, taking the typical cases for donors,
    and transferring the material directly to our volun¬
    teers. In about thirty-six hours, half of the number
    we exposed came down with fever and sore throat,
    with hemolytic streptococci present, and doubtless as
    the causal agent. All the clinicians who saw these
    cases in consultation agreed with us that they were
    ordinary cases of sore throat.
    Another incident : One of our officers, Dr. L., who
    had been in intimate contact with the disease from
    early in October, collected material from six healthy
    men at the Portsmouth Navy Yard who were thought
    might be in the period of incubation of the disease—we
    were trying to get material as early as possible, because
    all the evidence seems to indicate that the infection is
    transmittable early in the disease. None of the six
    men came down with influenza, but Dr. L. came down
    in thirty-six hours, with a clinical attack of influenza,
    although he had escaped all the rest of the outbreak.
    CONCLUSION
    I think we must be very careful not to draw any
    positive conclusions from negative results of this kind.
    Many factors must be considered. Our volunteers may
    not have been susceptible. They may have been
    immune. They had been exposed as all the rest of the
    people had been exposed to the disease, although they
    gave no clinical history of an attack.
    Dr. McCoy, who with Dr. Richey, did a similar
    series of experiments on Goat Island, San Francisco,
    used volunteers who, so far as known, had not been
    exposed to the outbreak at all, also had negative results,
    that is, they were unable to reproduce the disease.
    Perhaps there are factors, or a factor, in the transmis¬
    sion of influenza that we do not know.
    As a matter of fact, we entered the outbreak with
    a notion that we knew the cause of the disease, and
    were quite sure we knew how it was transmitted from
    person to person. Perhaps, if we have learned any¬
    thing, it is that we are not quite sure what we know
    about the disease.

    [A complete account of the experiment is being published
    by the U. S. Public Health Service.]

    autor

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milton_J._Rosenau
    Milton Joseph Rosenau (January 1, 1869 – April 9, 1946) was an American public health official and professor who was influential in the early twentieth century.

    ...

    Rosenau left the Hygienics Laboratory at Angel Island to take on a position as Professor at Harvard University. During his time there, he helped establish the Harvard and Massachusetts School for Health Officers. He also became the president of the Society of American Bacteriologists in 1934, and later, the president of the American Public Health Association in 1944.[5]

    Milton J. Rosenau (1869-1946) | News | Harvard T.H. Chan School of Public Health
    https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/news/centennial-milton-j-rosenau/
    Milton Rosenau was one of the three founders of the Harvard-MIT School for Health Officers.
    “We find monuments erected to heroes who have won wars, but we find none commemorating anyone’s preventing a war. The same is true with epidemics.”

    So observed Milton J. Rosenau, the Harvard Medical School professor who, along with M.I.T.’s William T. Sedgwick and Harvard’s George C. Whipple, launched the 1913 Harvard-M.I.T. collaboration that ultimately evolved into Harvard School of Public Health.


    // testovane subjekty mozna mely proste silnou imunitu, ze to ustaly. ale je rozhodne zajimave videt, ze na zdraveho mladeho cloveka nemelo vliv, ani pokud mu nemocnej s chripkou nakasle primo do tvare. ze ani extremni pokusy nevedly k prenosu nakazy.

    i vzhledem k tomu, ze izolace zdravych lidi je jedine opatreni, ktere provadime (krome vakcin). pritom tohle sireni zrejme tedy minimalne neni zasadnim faktorem. i ze svy zkusenosti jsem si uz davno vsiml, ze nachlazeni, chripka, angina u me snad vzdy byla spjata s psychikou casto v kombinaci, kdyz se clovek treba moc prochladi
    a kdyz byl v domacnosti nekdo nemocnej, tak si nevybavuju, ze bych to pak chytl taky... pokud nedoslo u me zaroven k vyse uvedenemu teda ,)

    prijde mi hlavne, ze i u prochlazeni hraje psychika zasadni roli.. jestli se z toho rozvine nachlazeni, chripka,... .. nekdy clovek i chce onemocnet, pac se mu nechce do prace nebo skoly

    ja tohle v detstvi zazil v extremu, kdy jsem si o vikendu pral onemocnet, pac jsem nechtel do skoly.. a druhy den ano, nemocnej.. dalsi den jsem byl v nemocnici a malem umrel, protoze mi praskl slepak, takze jsem byl v nemocnici nekolik mesicu s nezlepsujicim se stavem celou dobu na umele vyzive infuzi. .... ale prani se splnilo.. nemusel jsem do skoly :)
    GORG
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    napriklad

    Germ theory denial: A major strain in “alt-med” thought | Science-Based Medicine
    https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/germ-theory-denialism-a-major-strain-in-alt-med-thought/

    je zajimave si vsimnout, ze tamto video jsou 2 hodiny vlastne nonstop ruznych citaci vedeckych praci, starsich i novejsich, citace i vedeckych praci, ktere rozhodne ten konsensus nevyvraci, ale dilcim zpusobem potvrzuji tyhle pochyby

    vs.. tenhle clanek , kterej se nijak nevyjadruje k obsahu, co tam v tom videu zminuji, a necituje ani zadnou studii

    misto toho jsou tam vety typu
    Béchamp is unusual, though, in that he is frequently invoked by peddlers of quackery as having been “right” while Pasteur and Koch were “wrong.” Just Google “Béchamp” AND “alternative medicine,” “Béchamp germ theory,” or “Béchamp vaccination,” and you’ll see what I mean.

    takhle se vyjadruje vedec? quackery? "vygooglujte si xy, a uvidite, co tim myslim" ?

    to je proste jen jakysi komentar, ktery se nepokousi nic vyvracet, a jen tam dela prehlidku blaznu.

    imho si za ty pochyby v alt mediich muzou sami. z pozice arogance a nadrazenosti se nevyjadruji k tem klicovym bodum.

    heh ted mi doslo, ze jsem ve spatnym klubu, ktery neni na kecy :) tak se odmlcim uz..
    GORG
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    V Česku přibylo nejvíce případů koronaviru o víkendu od začátku května. Testy odhalily 353 nakažených | iROZHLAS - spolehlivé zprávy
    https://www.irozhlas.cz/zpravy-domov/koronavirus-aktualne-pocet-novych-pripadu_2207030820_zuj

    kazdopadne prituhuje

    opet obligatni prirovnani , ze je X vetsi nez od prvni stredy dva mesice zpet... a predpokladam, ze termin "nemocni" se opet mysli "pozitivni test".
    ten test, o kterym vynalezce te technologie parafrazovane rekl, ze jen idiot by ho pouzival na diagnostiku. PCR je nastroj pro vyzkum, kdy potrebujeme namnozit neco konkretniho, co vime, ze tam bude... ne pro namnozeni nejakeho gulase.
    GORG
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    RIVA: to jsou odvazna tvrzeni, ze by tradicni pohled na infekce byl cely blud :) ale musim rict, ze uz me pred casem tohle taky prislo divny.... proc neumime udelat izolat zadneho viru? jakoze si ze vzorku vyndat jen onen virus, vyfotit si ho pekne , a pak replikovat jeho sireni tim, ze ho aplikujeme nejakymu cloveku/zvireti, jestli pak onemocni.

    ze se tohle nikdy nedelalo a ze vsechny, zda se, pripady, kdy to vedci zkusili (teda ne tu izolaci, tu ani nikdy nezkouseli zjevne), ale proste vzit vzorek z nemocneho a aplikovat ho na nekoho zdraveho, jestli tim onemocni.

    schvalne jsem googloval, co si o tom mysli pan google a vedci/media a ty debunky vlastne rikaj, ze tohle je stara kontroverze uz z 19.stoleti, ktera je pry zneuzivana dnes dezinformatory, kteri tuhle udajne prekonanou vedeckou kontroverzi zneuzivaji pro nebezpecne dezinformace.

    nicmene nevyjadrujou se k tem vecem, ktery jsou v tom linkovanem dokumentu. v jednom debunk clanku pouze pisou, ze izolovat virus pry proste nejde. ze je tak malinkatej, ze nejde izolovat. a proto se to pry nedela. a kdyz se virologu zeptate na izolaci viru, tak se osivaji, a nekteri sdilnejsi reknou, ze izolace viru zavisi na fantazii daneho vedce, jak si izolaci viru on sam definuje. coz je fakt uzasna definice :)

    kazdopadne ten David Icke nekdy v breznu 2020 v tom pak hned cenzurovanem rozhovoru rekl i pro me dost obtizne prijimane tvrzeni, ze ten COVID virus jsou ve skutecnosti exosomy.

    media tvrdi, ze je to blbost. pry ze jen proto, ze to na fotce vypada jako exosom neznamena, ze jen kvuli ten podobnosti to je exosom. proste koule s tema spajkama.

    kazdopadne koronavirus na fotkach se ani moc nepodoba tomu obrazku koronaviru, ktery nam predkladaj rendery... proste maj na fotce jakysi blob s nahodilyma vycnelkama

    podobne jako exosom. vypadajici jako jakysi blob s nahodilyma vycnelkama..

    takze kdyz odbornici mluvi o tom, ze jen proeto, ze je "hodne podobny" koronaviru, zni dost podivne mluvit o nejake "podobnosti" , kdyz cely ten tvar v obou pripadech vypada dost nahodile.


    komicka v tom videu byla ta studie, kde z pozitivniho COVID pacienta "izolovali" ten vzorek viru.. a na fotce tam meli blob bez vycnelku (spikes)... a jak v te studii psali, ze pomohlo pridat do kultivacni misky nejakou sracku, a tim tomu pridelali ty spikes .. :)

    imho by meli fakt ty veci vyvracet.. kdyz se k tomu nevyjadrujou, tak co si clovek pak ma myslet?

    jinak kdyz ma nekdo ebolu, tak to snad prej celkem rychle poznaj prave temi vyraznymi projevy (krvaceni pri kasli)....
    samo muzou v tom byt jeste nejake jine faktory, ktere umi vytvorit efekt infekcnosti nez bakterie nebo viry.. ale to uz zni mozna moc ezo

    kazdopadne kolem te virologie zjevne jsou urcita tabu, o kterych se nemluvi. napriklad proc si mame myslet, ze mame genom viru, kdyz je to cely gulas vseho, co do misky nahazeli vcetne tech ledvin zelene opice, exosomu

    v tech citovanych studiich tam primo i zminuji, ze je skoro nemozne rozlisit exosom od koronaviru
    RIVA
    RIVA --- ---
    Něco pro pobavení na páteční večer:

    The End of Germ Theory
    https://odysee.com/@spacebusters:c9/Final-The-End-of-Germ-Theory:8
    RIVA
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    RIVA:
    Lotus Trump #YourComments / Hugo Talks
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPQSZPXdCmw&t=405s
    ALWA
    ALWA --- ---
    How Covid Tracking Apps Are Pivoting for Commercial Profit | WIRED
    https://www.wired.com/story/covid-19-data-switch/
    ALWA
    ALWA --- ---
    Someone Slipped Hundreds of Fake Articles About Things That Never Happened Onto Wikipedia
    https://futurism.com/the-byte/fake-articles-wikipedia
    ALWA
    ALWA --- ---
    ALWA
    ALWA --- ---
    k prvni vete zahlavi, ale nevim, nevesel-li jsem. odstranim popr

    GORG
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    She did, however, express a somewhat similar sentiment. As pointed out by PolitiFact and Snopes, Sanger used the term “weeds” in a 1923 New York Times article she authored ( here ) ( here ), but she made no reference to a specific race. She wrote: “Birth Control is not contraception indiscriminately and thoughtlessly practiced. It means the release and cultivation of the better racial elements in our society, and the gradual suppression, elimination and eventual extirpation of defective stocks — those human weeds which threaten the blooming of the finest flowers of American civilization."


    Fact Check-Fabricated quote about ‘human weeds’ attributed to Planned Parenthood founder | Reuters
    https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-sanger-quote-idUSL1N2XP1SB
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