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    NYEMITaxisluzba Nyemi
    Prostor pro moje ego a vase uctivani me osoby!

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    NYEMI
    NYEMI --- ---
    FOLCWINE: tl:dr

    Vzdycky jsem chtela, aby to tu zilo, ale neuvedomila jsem si, jak presvedceny mam publikum. Tak ja to jdu zase zaplacnout nejakejma obrazkama, na ty clovek inteligenci nepotrebuje. A kdo tu bude jeste rozebirat tohle tema, velice mne rozrusi.
    FOLCWINE
    FOLCWINE --- ---
    tolik k mym sympatiim ke kockam (smrdi a jsou blby!), zatimco napriklad krkavci chovani pro nataceni filmu jsou na urovni cca 8leteho dite, coz kocka nikdy nezvladne.

    Intelligence

    See also: Avian intelligence

    The brain-to-body weight ratios of corvid brains are among the largest in birds, equal to that of most great apes and cetaceans, and only slightly lower than a human.[6] Their intelligence is boosted by the long growing period of the young. By remaining with the parents, the young have more opportunities to learn necessary skills. Since most corvids are cooperative brooders, their young can learn from different members of the group.[7]

    When compared to dogs and cats in an experiment testing the ability to seek out food according to three-dimensional clues, corvids out-performed the mammals.[24] A meta-analysis testing how often birds invented new ways to acquire food in the wild found corvids to be the most innovative birds.[25] A 2004 review suggests that their cognitive abilities are on par with those of great apes.[26] Despite structural differences, the brains of corvids and great apes both evolved the ability to make geometrical measurements.

    Corvid ingenuity is represented through their feeding skills, memorization abilities, use of tools, and group behaviour. Living in large social groups has long been connected with high cognitive ability. To live in a large group, a member must be able to recognize individuals and track the social position and foraging of other members over time. Members must also be able to distinguish between sex, age, reproductive status, and dominance, and to update this information constantly. It might be that social complexity corresponds to their high cognition.[27]

    The Eurasian Magpie is one of the few non-mammal species known to be able to recognize itself in a mirror test.[28]

    There are also specific examples of corvid cleverness. One Carrion Crow was documented to crack nuts by placing them on a crosswalk, letting the passing cars crack the shell, waiting for the light to turn red, and then safely retrieving the contents.[29] A group of crows in England took turns lifting garbage bin lids while their companions collected food.[citation needed]

    Members of the corvid family have been known to watch other birds, remember where they hide their food, then return once the owner leaves.[citation needed] Corvids also move their food around between hiding places to avoid thievery, but only if they have previously been thieves themselves i.e., they remember previous relevant social contexts, use their own experience of having been a thief to predict the behavior of a pilferer, and can determine the safest course to protect their caches from being pilfered. Studies to assess similar cognitive abilities in apes have been inconclusive.[30]

    The ability to hide food requires highly accurate spatial memories. Corvids have been recorded to recall their food's hiding place up to nine months later. It is suggested that vertical landmarks (like trees) are used to remember locations. There has also been evidence that Western Scrub Jays, which store perishable foods, not only remember where they stored their food, but for how long. This has been compared to episodic memory, previously thought unique to humans.[7]

    New Caledonian Crows (Corvus moneduloides) are notable for their highly developed tool fabrication. They make angling tools of twigs and leaves trimmed into hooks, then use the hooks to pull insect larvae from tree holes. Tools are engineered according to task and apparently also to learned preference. Recent studies revealed abilities to solve complicated problems, which suggests high level of innovation of a complex nature.[31] Other corvids that have been observed using tools include the American Crow, Blue Jay and Green Jay. Diversity in tool design among corvids suggests cultural variation. Again, great apes are the only other animals known to use tools in such a fashion.[7]

    Clark's Nutcrackers and Jackdaws were compared in a 2002 study based on geometric rule learning. The corvids, along with a domestic pigeon, had to locate a target between two landmarks, while distances and landmarks were altered. The nutcrackers were more accurate in their searches than the jackdaws and pigeons.[32]

    The scarecrow is an archetypal scare tactic in the agricultural business. However, due to corvids' quick wit, scarecrows are soon ignored and used as perches. Despite farmers' efforts to rid themselves of corvid pests, their attempts have only expanded corvid territories and strengthened their numbers.[16]

    Current systematics places corvids, based on physical characteristics other than their brains (the most developed of birds), in the lower middle of the passerines[vague], contrary to earlier teleological classifications as "highest" songbirds due to their intelligence.[9] As per one observer:


    During the 19th century there arose the belief that these were the 'most advanced' birds, based upon the belief that Darwinian evolution brings 'progress'. In such a classification the 'most intelligent' of birds were listed last reflecting their position 'atop the pyramid'. Modern biologists reject the concept of hierarchical 'progress' in evolution [...].

    —[8]

    The other major group of highly intelligent birds of the order Psittaciformes (which includes 'true' parrots, cockatoos and New Zealand parrots) is not closely related to corvids.
    NYEMI
    NYEMI --- ---
    DRACONICUS: :)) No, kazdy davame proste prednost nejakemu jinemu zviratku.
    DRACONICUS
    DRACONICUS --- ---
    Prikrmime flamewars.
    CORIM: A nebo kdyz ti kocour oznackuje vsechny futra a okna, dalsi preznackuje, to je pak puch....
    NYEMI: Myslis ty bezmyslenkovite mnozici se veci? Jsou chytrejsi nez nektera zvirata a i nez spousta lidi.
    APOSTRI: Amen bratre. Hlavne nezerou internetove kabely a uz vubec ne ty pridelane na stenu, ze.... :)
    APOSTRI
    APOSTRI --- ---
    Jinak cincili jsou dle mejch zkušenosti jako gremlins: nekrmit po půlnoci, nepolejvat vodou a nepouštět ven z klece, pokud nechceš okousánej nabytek a nacházet bobky i uvnitř svého hermetický uzavřeného sejfu :)
    APOSTRI
    APOSTRI --- ---
    NYEMI: Tak to už stejně děláte, protože ty osobní sympatie rozhodujou a ostatní už jsou jenom argumenty... ale co bych to byl za člověka, kdybych rušil flamewars! Jen my v ní chyběl nějakej smartass, tak jsem se rozhodl tu roli vyplnit. :-)
    NYEMI
    NYEMI --- ---
    APOSTRI: Jako! Neber nam nas flamewars jako! Tak je bdem posuzovat podle osobnich sympatii, na to se neda nic rict :)
    APOSTRI
    APOSTRI --- ---
    Ja se omlouvam za vsuvku, ale mam potřebu to říct. Mne v těhle hádkách o tom který zvíře je chytřejší vždycky překvapí ta latentní lidská arogance, která považuje inteligenci, tedy vlastnost ve který jsme vůči ostatním dobrý, za nějakou universální míru kvality. Přitom třeba evolučně v přírodě je to obráceně, druhy které vyvinuly inteligenci z pravidla přežívají kratší dobu.
    NYEMI
    NYEMI --- ---
    CORIM
    CORIM --- ---
    NYEMI: Cincily jsem nikdy nemel. Ale z toho co jsem schopen porovnat tak to plemeno kocek co mam doma je na tom s inteligenci lepe nez vsichni psi co jsem kdy s nima mel cest. A i inteligentnejsi nez potkan ktereho jsem mival. Ptaky nemuzu posoudit - zadneho jsme nemel. Rybicky neni treba komentovat. Krecky take ne.
    NYEMI
    NYEMI --- ---
    NYEMI
    NYEMI --- ---
    NYEMI
    NYEMI --- ---
    CORIM: Opravdu? No, ja mam doma tri. A taky jesterku cokla andulku a cincily. Ze vsech tehle einsteinu jsou nejbystrejsi cincily. Kocky jsou v mym zebrizku popularity az po my totalne dementni andulce.
    CORIM
    CORIM --- ---
    ALDARION: Ehm - to mas zkusenosti s jinejma kockama nez ja - co se tyce skrabani nabytku - tak to je trosku problem - ale chozeni na kocici hajzlik mame doma 100%, jina zvirata peci kocek v zasade neprezila (resp. moji peci ...)
    ALDARION
    ALDARION --- ---
    Asi není možné dojít k jakékoli shodě mezi milovníky bytových koček (viz heslo masochismus) a těmi, kteří je nechovají, natož pak mezi těmi, kteří je nechovají, ale museli je nějakou dobu hostit doma. ;)
    Ale snad se alespoň shodneme na to, že kočkovité šelmy vyžadují množství podnětů, zábavy a vyžití, které se často neshoduje s běžnou lidskou představou o vzhledu a využití některých předmětů v domácnosti, zejména škrábadel (nábytku), toalet (proč ten květináč tolik smrdí?) a zábavy s jinými zvířaty v domácnosti (proč jsou vyhozené pojistky a v tmavočerveném akvárku plave prázdá pixla od dezinfekce a kompresorek?). Milovníci koček se s tím pak vyrovnávají jinak (ona vždycky, když žárlí, tak to dá najevo), než ostatní populace (bože, něco mi nachcalo do mejch novejch pohorek!)... ;D
    FIONOR
    FIONOR --- ---
    Blbé a zlomyslné.
    CORIM
    CORIM --- ---
    DRACONICUS: Tak mozna venkovni kocky se spatnou stravou pokud jim fetujes prdele.

    Domaci kocky zijici v byte, ktere zerou superpremiove krmivo a maji lekarskou peci fakt ani nesmrdi ani nejsou blbe.
    DRACONICUS
    DRACONICUS --- ---
    CORIM: My jich meli jedenact a v jednu chvilu kolem dvaceti (dve matky z povolani, sotva vrhly kotata, vrhly se na kocoury) a muzu potvrdit co rika Nyemi. Jsou blbe, rvou a srmdi.... Jestli linaji mi bylo jedno, byly venku.
    GENEVIEVE
    GENEVIEVE --- ---
    NYEMI: nejlepším přítelem draka je kuře přece! :-)
    TIGU
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    NYEMI: Meow?

    Ted jsi urazila mne, i mého kocoura! :3
    CORIM
    CORIM --- ---
    NYEMI: Eh ... evidentne jsi nikdy nemela kocku. V zasade z toho co jsi psala je pravda jen to ze linaji.
    Kliknutím sem můžete změnit nastavení reklam