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    LAUNCHERElektromobily 🏞️ 🛣️ 🏎️ 🚗 🚐 🚙 🚌 🚒 🚛 🔌
    Vitejte v boardu Elektromobily!

    Prosim dodrzujme stejna rules*, jako napriklad v obdobnych subreddits na Redditu.

    1) Zadne vulgarity. Zadne drama.
    2) Toto je SFW board.
    3) Bez ICE prosim, na to jsou na Nyxu vhodnejsi boardy.
    4) Toto neni vhodny board pro napr. vase culture wars proti EV.
    5) Board je urceny primarne pro majitele EV a zajemce o nakup EV. Omladina "az mi bude 18+" tez vitana, fandim vam. Chapu nutkani napsat nam, ze si to nikdy nekoupite, nebo jeste nekoupite, ale prosim vyuzijte jine boards. Uvazujte, jak by to tu vypadalo, kdyby nam sem tohle napsal kazdy z uzivatelu Nyxu.
    6) Idealne drzme diskuzi v pratelskem duchu.
    7) Mit nazor na CN automobilky, Elona Muska, temnou minulost nekterych DE a IT automobilek, Henryho Forda I atd, muzete. Ale prosim snazte se neprekrocit bod #6, nebo dokonce bod #1. Pro tyto ucely prosim vyhledejte boardy vhodne pro ostrou socialni nebo politickou kritiku.
    8) Při vkládání linků je nutné vždy přidat vlastní input (shrnutí, komentář, oponentura/souhlas apod.), stačí v pár větách zdůvodnit proč je sem odkaz umístěn.

    Diky za pochopeni 🤦‍♂️ Pozor, druhé varování může být za 7 dnů RO i hůře.

    Prejeme prijemnou zabavu 🚗🔋 a hlavne bezpecne kilometry za volantem / s autopilotem.

    * Work in progress
    rozbalit záhlaví
    SMRGL
    SMRGL --- ---
    W_NOICE78: Díky, konečně nějaký pořádný odkaz na dohodu z roku 58 a vlastně důvod proč vzniklo GSR 2 (což také příprava na level 3).. Ještě najít link na Gtr-evs..
    MISO
    MISO --- ---
    Jedna zaujimavost z Rakuska:

    Dialnica A12 (Inntalautobahn) ma v useku z Kufsteinu do Innsbrucku znizenu rychlost zo 130 na 100 km/h a to kvoli snizeniu emisii z ICE. Takto spomalene dialnice v AT maju vyznacenu prikazanu rychlost 100 a doplnkovu znacku IG-L. EVs a vodikove auta mozu nadalej 130. Takze som to vyskusal, 2x si ma vyfotili a prisli domov 2 pokuty á 60 €, jedna z Kundl, jedna z Kematen, v oboch pripadoch bola namerana rychlost 118 km/h po odcitani tolerancie.

    Na obe pokuty som prislusnemu dopravnemu odboru napisal e-mailom, ze pokutovane auto je ciste EV a je oznacene CZ znackou urcenou pre EV. Z oboch prisla odpoved e-mailom, ze rizeni bude zastaveno.

    Viac info:
    https://www.bmk.gv.at/themen/klima_umwelt/luft/recht/e_autos.html - vcetne zoznamu IG-L usekov
    Umwelt-Tempolimit in Österreich: Ausnahme für Elektroautos
    https://www.adac.de/verkehr/recht/verkehrsvorschriften-ausland/umwelt-tempolimit-oesterreich/
    SPEEDY
    SPEEDY --- ---
    JYRKA: Meanwhile in Mercedes labs...
    Mercedes-Benz Reinvents the Brake with In-Drive System for EVs — Captain Electro
    https://www.captainelectro.com/cars/braking-news-mercedes-reinvents-the-wheel-well-the-brakes-actually
    ABS
    ABS --- ---
    HERR_FLICK: čínská id7 a EU verze budou 2 rozdílná auta (pasivní ani aktivní bezpečnost se tam řeší asi tak s o 15 let staršími standardy), celkem jistě mají různé baterie a tuším I motor je čínské verzi je slabší. I daně se tam v cenících často ukazují jinak. Není to úplně jablka s jablky srovnání.
    A ano konkurence v EVs je tam obecně větší.
    CRAZY_IVAN
    CRAZY_IVAN --- ---
    Electric vehicles (EVs) now last as long as petrol and diesel alternatives – and their improving reliability outpaces fossil fuel-powered cars each year because the technology is still maturing.
    Robert Elliott at the University of Birmingham, UK, and his colleagues analysed nearly 300 million records from the UK’s compulsory roadworthiness test, called the MOT, which show the condition, age and mileage of vehicles on the road between 2005 and 2022. This covered some 29.8 million vehicles in total.

    Electric cars now last as long as petrol and diesel counterparts | New Scientist
    https://www.newscientist.com/article/2465166-electric-cars-now-last-as-long-as-petrol-and-diesel-counterparts/
    NIKDAS
    NIKDAS --- ---
    Cca 50% všech prodaných BEV v USA v roce 2024 bylo Tesla. Jako dá se to předpokládat, že amíci budou kupovat amerického výrobce, ale i tak čumim teda. srov. třetí nejprodávánější BEV vůz byl Ford Mach-E s neuvěřitelným 4% podílem.

    Here are the top 10 best-selling EVs in the US for 2024
    https://electrek.co/2025/01/14/top-10-best-selling-evs-us-2024
    KORKMAZ
    KORKMAZ --- ---
    Odposlechnuto na bloombergu...Volkswagen AG’s deliveries declined last year as weak electric-vehicle demand and intense competition in the key Chinese market dragged on sales....While the group’s North America sales increased 6.4% last year, deliveries of its fully electric cars in the US slumped around 30%.

    Both Porsche and Mercedes experienced a pickup in demand in the fourth quarter, fueling hopes that 2024 was a low point for
    Germany’s embattled automakers.

    Volkswagen said it’s seeing encouraging order intake for EVs in Western Europe, citing demand for new models including the VW ID.7, the Audi Q6 etron and the Porsche Macan.
    PEPAZZ
    PEPAZZ --- ---
    Norsko v roce 2024 88% prodanych aut byla EV

    Jake podmínky k tomu bylo treba vytcorit?

    The Norwegian EV incentives:
    No purchase/import tax on EVs (1990-2022). From 2023 some purchase tax based on the cars’ weight on all new EVs.
    Exemption from 25% VAT on purchase (2001-2022). From 2023, Norway will implement a 25% VAT on the purchase price from 500 000 Norwegian Kroner and over
    No annual road tax (1996-2021). Reduced tax from 2021. Full tax from 2022.
    No charges on toll roads (1997- 2017).
    No charges on ferries (2009- 2017).
    Maximum 50% of the total amount on ferry fares for electric vehicles (2018)
    Maximum 50% of the total amount on toll roads (2018-2022). From 2023 70%
    Free municipal parking (1999- 2017)
    Access to bus lanes (2005-). New rules allow local authorities to limit the access to only include EVs that carry one or more passengers (2016-)
    25% reduced company car tax (2000-2008). 50% reduced company car tax (2009-2017). Company car tax reduction reduced to 40% (2018-2021) and 20 percent from 2022.
    Exemption from 25% VAT on leasing (2015-)
    The Norwegian Parliament decided on a national goal that all new cars sold by 2025 should be zero-emission (electric or hydrogen) (2017).
    «Charging right» for people living in apartment buildings was established (2017-)
    Public procurement: From 2022 cars needs to be ZEV. From 2025 the same applies to city buses

    MESTREY_
    MESTREY_ --- ---
    FEDAJKIN: Dokonce jim ridic dava souhlas k tomu, aby je mohli sbirat a uchovavat, pokazde, kdyz startuje auto. To je ten nenavideny “OK button” ktery musi ridici EVs na platforme MEB rucne odklikavat nez najede infotainment.
    JIMIQ
    JIMIQ --- ---
    Gasoline/diesel auto sales have moved into long-term decline – Chemicals and the Economy
    https://www.icis.com/chemicals-and-the-economy/2024/09/gasoline-diesel-auto-sales-have-moved-into-long-term-decline/

    ICE sales peaked in 2017, EVs displace 1.7mbpd
    MEDWYN
    MEDWYN --- ---
    CERMI_FOX: YMMV (thx Launcher), ale v mem kosmiru maji i EVs sterace a brzdy. A STK. A taky se jim musi menit pneu na leto a zimu. Tim nechci prudit, jen nabidnout kontext. Ja jezdim 5 let starym Karoqem a krome 5 minut za 14 dni na pumpe neresim vubec nic.
    PEPAZZ
    PEPAZZ --- ---
    Renault to develop EVs for Europe in China, setting R&D team in Shanghai, report says
    Renault to develop EVs for Europe in China, setting R&D team in Shanghai, report says
    https://carnewschina.com/2024/10/30/renault-to-develop-evs-for-europe-in-china-setting-rd-team-in-shanghai-report-says/
    n June, it was reported that the Chinese would help Renault with an electric version of Twingo. “The development of the car will be done together with the Chinese partner to reduce the development lead time and costs,” a project insider told Autohome.
    Renault’s small R&D team in Shanghai was established earlier this year to work on an updated EV program. This team is part of Renault China’s Shanghai office but reports directly to Renault’s headquarters in France rather than Renault China, Autopix says.

    Renault plans to shift more of its EV R&D to China, a source familiar with the matter said. The goal is to build a full EV development system there, including both software and hardware.

    Renault most likely wants to take advantage of China’s extensive EV supply chain, following its legacy peers in relocating parts of their R&D and supply chain operations to China. For example, Volkswagen is designing EV models in China specifically for the Chinese market, while BMW and Mercedes-Benz are developing EVs in China for global sales.
    PEPAZZ
    PEPAZZ --- ---
    PEPAZZ: If you’re driving a STELLANTIS, may God be with you!! PART 2#
    DS3 eTense with 23,000 km, warranty abused and 20 months of repair agony. The level of poor engineering in these vehicles borders on madness. This group is putting junk on wheels across diesel, petrol, and hybrid models, but what they’re doing in EVs is unforgivable. The poor product experience is so strong it can turn anyone away from EVs for good.
    As a repair shop, we face countless issues: aftermarket "right to repair" access for independent repair shops (diagrams, software, updates, parts), as well as specialized tools and documentation, are inaccessible. They rarely respond to inquiries or claim “it's not their responsibility,” violating EU Regulation 2018/858, Article 61. We’ve been waiting for weeks to get access to FIAT and Citroen accounts just to clear faults, while Tesla or BYD grant access within a day. Authorized service centers are controlled by the group with insufficient training or support, leading to random part replacements at the owner’s expense.
    Furthermore, manufacturers lack the necessary parts for repairs, leaving vehicles unusable for months, causing significant losses to business owners without replacement vehicles. Finally, the vehicle’s extended warranty is tied to every minor service; even a missed wiper change can void the battery warranty, a notorious issue we’ve dubbed "Warranty R-a-p-e.” This has happened to this DS3, as the general warranty on wipers is tied to the motor and battery. The vehicle failed in motion due to an unknown fault (no communication with the VCU), and because of the PMSM motor in motion, coil excitation in the inverter burned out the inverter board.
    After five authorized services, 200 lost work hours, and €5,000 spent on a motor, two inverters, MCU, and additional equipment, we haven’t located the primary fault, though we successfully cloned the secondary inverter from the old to the new. Getting the car’s wheels turning again without buying a whole new car is impossible. The authorized service demands replacing the motor and inverter, which costs €12,500, though this likely isn’t the primary fault, opening further costs.
    The software system is shockingly limited for troubleshooting—you can never locate the fault by error code. Diagnostic tools, whether OEM or aftermarket, don’t provide access to specialized functions, resets, or programming. Pairing new or used modules is an excruciating process, and the entire policy on which this vehicle is based is unsustainable and unprofitable, leaving owners with major losses. These vehicles, once out of warranty, will be unrepairable and end up in parts or the scrapyard and owners returning to old VW TDI 1.9PD
    PEPAZZ
    PEPAZZ --- ---
    x.com
    https://x.com/evclinic/status/1851709644097380361

    If you drive a STELLANTIS vehicle, may God help you! PART 1
    It’s time to summarize: They are totally unsustainable groupation producing junk, along with their suppliers. The level of ridiculous engineering in these vehicles borders on madness, and it’s time to confront the garbage, face to face, in this series of posts. We already know the kind of trash this group produces on wheels in diesel, gasoline, and hybrid variants, but what they're doing with EVs is unforgivable. It seems to us they don’t want you to be satisfied owners, especially not with EVs. The product seems designed with a message like, “I told you to buy a diesel with a DPF so we could shovel money out of you.” We’ve encountered a series of problems with them, from AFTERMARKET "right to repair" access for independent repair shops (schematics, software, updates, parts) to special tools and documentation. Support is non-responsive. Nothing is accessible, blatantly violating EU Regulation 2018/858, Article 61. For weeks now, we haven’t received approval for access to FIAT and Citroen accounts. While Tesla granted this access within a day, with Stellantis, we’d have to scrap 50 cars before anything is resolved.
    The problem in the other 50 shades of gray is that even OEM service centers are slaves to this group. Their tech lack adequate training, can’t locate faults, don’t have sufficient hotline support from the manufacturer, and blindly replace components at the owner's expense. The third layer of problems is that the manufacturer doesn’t have the parts available to fix the vehicle, causing delays of 2-6 months, with especially heavy losses for entrepreneurs left without a replacement vehicle under warranty. The last and most painful layer is the usurious warranty policies, where the general vehicle warranty is tied to the drive warranty. If you miss a wiper replacement according to the service book, you automatically lose the battery warranty, even in critical recalls where they refuse to replace the part.
    Here I have images of 3 cases of catastrophically and irreparably designed MAHLE OBC and DCDC units integrated into a single module, where 8 PCB boards complicate the system to unprecedented proportions. The last IGBT board is glued with hard epoxy to the coolant plate, along with the DCDC inverter. Almost every board has its microcontroller. In 2 samples, there’s no measurable damage, but the Type 2 charging doesn’t work. One sample burnt the wire from the inductor to the IGBT output. We couldn’t repair a single one in 3 attempts. For the second part, we’ve been waiting 6 months, and this factory fault is neither covered by warranty nor a recall, meaning owners truly become victims with no choice but to buy a vehicle from another manufacturer, or they’ll be driven to bankruptcy. Neither we nor the authorized service center can fix this defect. This part is found in all Peugeot, Citroen, Opel, Toyota, DS vehicles and this is only one of many issues.

    Partnumber: H-20679-01, 03196727, MAHLE

    Error: Type2 doesnt charge

    OEM : 2200€ (6 months waiting time)
    EVC: -
    PEPAZZ
    PEPAZZ --- ---
    Krásné video :)))
    China’s EVs Immediately Collapse Without Mobile Signal
    https://youtube.com/watch?v=cnQuYz4xhBY
    MAGE
    MAGE --- ---
    Arkansas has enough lithium for the world’s EVs — but getting to it is the problem - The Verge
    https://www.theverge.com/2024/10/22/24276615/ev-car-battery-lithium-reserves-arkansas
    PEPAZZ
    PEPAZZ --- ---
    tak na toto jsem zvedav:

    Chinese electric carmaker BYD expects to significantly increase its sales in Germany within the next six months, according to executive VP Stella Li. In an interview with Frankfurter Allgemeine Sonntagszeitung (FAS), Li said the company anticipates establishing a solid presence in Germany’s EV market “in less than half a year,” despite upcoming EU tariffs on China-made EVs, which Germany had opposed. She emphasized that BYD would begin manufacturing cars in Hungary by the end of 2025 to strengthen its European footprint.
    BYD is expanding its sales teams across Germany to build consumer trust and drive long-term brand loyalty. While Li did not specify sales targets, she noted that BYD's EVs would be priced between25,000 and 30,000 euros ($27,342–$32,810). With a strategic focus on competitive pricing, BYD is confident in its potential to appeal to German consumers and establish itself as a key player in Europe.
    Li expressed that European automakers struggle with competitiveness due to policy inconsistencies and efforts to limit competition. In contrast, she believes BYD’s approach will foster a healthy competitive landscape in the EV market. “I think we will become an important market participant here in Europe,” Li remarked ahead of the Paris Motor Show, opening on Oct. 14.
    PEPAZZ
    PEPAZZ --- ---
    zázraky se deji i ve VW , id3 v číne bude mít LFP !

    Volkswagen ID.3 gains LFP battery to rival cheaper EVs in China
    https://electrek.co/2024/10/15/volkswagen-id-3-gains-lfp-battery-rival-cheaper-evs-china/
    PEPAZZ
    PEPAZZ --- ---
    BYD predicts rapid EV growth in Germany, Europe’s largest auto market, within the next six months. With EVs starting at around $30,000 (25,000 euros), BYD expects to win over German buyers quickly.

    Li criticized the tariffs, saying the buyers lose in the long run, but added that BYD will begin building cars in Hungary in 2025.

    “I think we will become an important market participant here in Europe,” Li told FAS. The company is already expanding its sales team in Germany as it looks to gain a foothold in Europe’s largest auto market
    BYD to break into Europe's largest auto market with $30,000 EVs
    https://electrek.co/2024/10/14/byd-break-into-europes-largest-auto-market-30000-evs/
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