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    TOXICMANElon Musk respektive jeho firmy SpaceX (Falcon / Heavy / Dragon / Starship), Tesla, Starlink, Neuralink, Boring, xAI
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    B4 jede znovu na rampu

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    QWWERTY: me by se zas libilo "Pressurized historic cybertrack tours", precejen tou dobou bude cybertrack muzealni kousek :)
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    QWWERTY: melo by tam spise Visit Utah - Cybertruck tours .. uz jenom takto je to Sci-Fi :D
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    zajimave bude foto ze stejneho mista treba za 20 let :)
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    vtipny bude az to zvednou jerabem a pak posadi a zase jim to popraska :) (snad teda ne)
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    Elon Musk Personally Gives Sergei Korolyov's Family A Tour Of The Spac
    https://www.tesmanian.com/blogs/tesmanian-blog/soviet

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    TADEAS: Basically, floating Peenemünde :)

    "There are a lot of potential benefits from going to sea. But the most immediate benefit for Elon Musk is that launching from international waters puts SpaceX beyond the reach of pesky U.S. regulators. Elon has made no secret that he has little time to waste on government compliance. By fielding floating spaceports, and then sending those spaceports out to international waters, a lot of potentially irksome and time-wasting regulatory problems disappear. And if parts of SpaceX’s navy starts operating under flags of convenience, everything from U.S. taxes, basic American labor standards, worker safety and environmental compliance requirements can, by and large, just go away."
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    Elon Musk And Other Space Players Are Building Up Navies As They Take Rocketry To Sea
    https://www.forbes.com/sites/craighooper/2021/07/20/challenges-and-opportunities-as-space-companies-build-navies/

    SpaceX is already a big maritime player, fielding a diverse, high-tech set of eight contracted vessels and two oil-rig platforms. A simple tug handles day-to-day barge-hauling duties, three ships handle payload fairing and Dragon capsule recovery work, while another helps with booster landings. Three autonomous barge-like craft, or self-propelled “drone vessels,” serve as booster landing platforms, while two oil rigs, or Starship “floating spaceports,” are under construction. In essence, this fleet is a foundation for moving SpaceX offshore, helping to push as much rocketry as possible out to sea.

    Elon Musk’s modern take on Robert Truax’s massive “Sea Dragon,” a 60’s-era concept for a giant re-usable sea-launched booster, is coming together. If the concept actually “takes off,” the opportunities for America’s shipbuilding community are fascinating. As SpaceX and other emerging space companies head out to sea, launching bigger and bigger rockets, they will need everything from barges to tugs to tankers. The demand signal may do a lot to enliven America’s gritty industrial waterfront, a politically powerful but moribund manufacturing sector that collapsed with global oil prices. But as space goes offshore, offering economic benefits at home, maritime space launching ventures will also be tempted to fully exploit the legal “grey zones” in international waters, adding complexity to increasingly busy and increasingly coveted swathes of water—where norms, operational practices and laws haven't kept up with technological advances.

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    Nobody really knows exactly what Elon Musk has in mind for his two floating spaceports. But we can guess. With fewer people at sea, fewer regulatory hassles and the ability to launch from anywhere, a sea-launch solution offers companies a big competitive edge. And once SpaceX has figured out how to launch and operate from the sea, the company can scale up and start trying to launch payloads from the equator, where the greater rotational speed of the Earth makes it easier for rockets to get into orbit, or, instead, marine launchers can tailor launch locations to meet the technical needs of various customers or those more challenging energy—dense payloads needed for planetary work.

    There are a lot of potential benefits from going to sea. But the most immediate benefit for Elon Musk is that launching from international waters puts SpaceX beyond the reach of pesky U.S. regulators. Elon has made no secret that he has little time to waste on government compliance. By fielding floating spaceports, and then sending those spaceports out to international waters, a lot of potentially irksome and time-wasting regulatory problems disappear. And if parts of SpaceX’s navy starts operating under flags of convenience, everything from U.S. taxes, basic American labor standards, worker safety and environmental compliance requirements can, by and large, just go away.

    Take, for example, the Federal Aviation Administration. A longstanding feud between SpaceX and the FAA has been widely reported, and it is showing no signs of cooling off. In Texas, SpaceX and the FAA have jostled over everything from Starship testing to road closures, and the two parties are currently in a standoff over a launch tower that the FAA says is unapproved. It has to be irritating, knowing that, just twelve miles out to sea from the SpaceX “company town” of Boca Chica, Texas, the FAA suddenly has very little sway over what SpaceX does.
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    ALCATOR: vzdyt jo. fuck faa&spol, offshoring v pravym slova smyslu :) nekde odtamtud by teda zacalo bejt mozny, aby starlink (s vesmirnou optikou / nezavislosti na ground stations) byl fakt planetarni infrastrukturou nezatizenou svym geograficky/geopolitickym puvodem. pak je skutecne v dosahu, ze "they can shake fist at the sky" TOXICMAN pokud budou mit koule na to to udelat
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    TADEAS: Pokud vím, přesně to mají v úmyslu, proto taky koupili ty dvě plošiny.
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    ALCATOR: plovouci plosina, to je napad...
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    XCHAOS: Je to dost jinak. Může si klidně startovat z plovoucí plošiny uprostřed Atlantiku (nebo samozřejmě i jinde). Mezinárodní dohoda uznávaná všemi významnými hráči říká, že za bordel/škody, který napáchají ve vesmíru a atmosféře soukromé osoby, je zodpovědná vláda státu, jejž jsou tyto osoby občany.
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    SEJDA: tak já myslím, že politiky trochu potřebuje... jednak nějaké zakázky od NASA přeci jen má a jednak by mu taky úředníci mohli zakázat lítat, že jo. A současně pro export raketových technologií platí omezení, takže pokud je americká firma, musí se nějak doodnout s vládou a úředníky na tom, že bude létat z amerického území. Ale USA potřebují být na špici vývoje a bez firem jako SpaceX to nejde. Takže tam existuje nějaká rovnováha zájmů...
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    LEGI: Musk je klasicky hejter .. politici jsou pro nej jenom nutne zlo.
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