tak jeste neco k tomu fightu v Koloseu (konverzace Fridman - Huberman) (Lex je oba trenuje a ma asi vhled do toho)
- So is that fight between Elon and Zuck actually gonna happen?
- I think Elon is a huge believer of this idea of the most entertaining outcomes is the most likely.
And he almost like, there's almost the sense that there's not a free will and the universe
has a kinda deterministic gravitational field pulling towards the most fun and he's just a player in that game.
So from that perspective, I think it seems like something like that is inevitable.
- Like a little scrap in the parking lot of a Facebook or something like that. - Exactly. - Sorry, Meta. - Yeah. - But it looks like they're training for real, and Zuck has competed right in jiu-jitsu? - So I think he is approaching it as a sport.
Elon is approaching it as a spectacle. And I mean, the way he talks about it,
he's a huge fan of history. He talks about all the warriors that have fought throughout history. If you look, he wants to really do it at the Colosseum.
And you know, the Colosseum is for 400 years, there's so many, so much great writing about this.
I think over 400,000 people have died in the Colosseum, Gladiators. So this is this historic place that sheds so much blood,
so much fear, so much anticipation of battle, all of this. So he loves this kinda spectacle.
And also, the meme of it, the hilarious absurdity of it, that two tech CEOs battling it out on sand
in a place where gladiators fought to the death and then bears and lion ate prisoners
as part of the execution process.
- Well, it's also gonna be an instance where Mark Zuckerberg and Elon Musk
gets to change bodily fluids. If they bleed, there's one thing's about fighting, you know? I think it was in that book,
it's a great book "Fighter's Heart," where he talks about, you know, the sort of the intimacy of sparring.
I only rolled jiu-jitsu with you once, but there was a period of time where I boxed and which I don't recommend.
I got hit, I hit some guys and definitely got hit back. I'd spar on Wednesday nights when I lived on San Diego.
And you know, when you spar with somebody, even if they hurt you, especially if they hurt you,
you know, you see that person afterwards and there's an intimacy, right? It was in that book "Fire's Heart" where he explains,
you know, you're exchanging bodily fluids with a stranger, right? And you're in your primitive mind,
and so there's an intimacy there that persists, so.
- You go together through a process of fear, anxiety, like-
- Yeah, when they get you, you nod. I mean, you watch somebody like catch somebody if, you know, not so much in professional fighting,
but if people are sparring that they catch you, you acknowledge that they caught you, like you got me there.