• úvod
  • témata
  • události
  • tržiště
  • diskuze
  • nástěnka
    • přihlásit
    registrace
    ztracené heslo?
    TOXICMANElon Musk respektive jeho firmy SpaceX (Falcon / Heavy / Dragon / Starship), Tesla, Starlink, Neuralink, Boring, xAI
    VON_GILOTINE
    VON_GILOTINE --- ---
    1 odpověď+2
    AVATAR: falesny neargument, to ze se ted strili tisice lidi na ukrajine mi nedava nijak narok jit si taky nekoho zastrelit.

    Jinak ten pokrok..mel skvele nakroceno v desetitisicich nedobrovolnych pacientu z koncentraku.

    A nejak se jako lidstvo shodlo ze takto tedy ne. Nejsi nijak hloupy tak prosim nerikej takove veci znovu
    TOXICMAN
    TOXICMAN --- ---
    +7
    BUBBLE
    BUBBLE --- ---
    +8
    YMLADRIS: Realita se stava transparentnejsi kdyz si k tomu najdes vic zdroju. Jedna se o zalobu od Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine. Vetsina tech pokusu na zviratech kterych se tyka se nedelala v Neuralink facilities, ale v UC Davis, coz bylo nasmlouvany pracoviste ktery si zamestnanci Neuralinku platili a vyuzivali.

    zakladni info zde:
    https://edition.cnn.com/2022/02/17/business/elon-musk-neuralink-animal-cruelty-intl-scli/index.html

    Tady mas primo jejich vyjadreni a detailni rozbor toho co jim vadi, vcetne reakci na to co pise Neuralink:

    Doctors Sue UC Davis Over Neuralink Monkey Experiments
    https://www.pcrm.org/news/news-releases/doctors-sue-uc-davis-over-neuralink-monkey-experiments

    Physicians Committee’s Response to “Neuralink’s Commitment to Animal Welfare”
    https://www.pcrm.org/ethical-science/animals-in-medical-research/pcrm-response-neuralink-claims

    The Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine—a national nonprofit with more than 17,000 doctor members—has filed a lawsuit against the University of California, Davis, today for withholding information concerning animal experiments conducted in association with the company Neuralink. In response to a public records request by the doctors’ group, UC Davis withheld almost all documents, claiming it was in the “public interest” to do so.

    UC Davis, which receives hundreds of millions of dollars in taxpayer money each year, is performing invasive, deadly brain experiments on monkeys under a contract with Neuralink. The Physicians Committee points out that public employees working in publicly funded buildings cut open the animals’ skulls, implant electrodes in their brains, and eventually kill them. Yet UC Davis has suppressed information regarding the scientific justification, how the animals may suffer and die during the experiments, and even basic information about their veterinary care and housing.

    dalsi info zde...
    Search | Physicians Committee
    https://www.pcrm.org/search?keys=neuralink
    AVATAR
    AVATAR --- ---
    +2
    CROME: ale jo, to radsi nekomentuju, jak si ohyba realitu :)
    ROGERD
    ROGERD --- ---
    +3
    AVATAR: Co kdybychom začali tím, že o tom zabíjení opic nebudeme lhát? Zvlášť když je to tedy taková banalita.
    CROME
    CROME --- ---
    1 odpověď+2
    AVATAR: Nekdy staci jen nelhat
    MAKROUSEK
    MAKROUSEK --- ---
    +2
    CROME: fangirlismus?
    AVATAR
    AVATAR --- ---
    3 odpovědi+2
    Heh, mi prijde trapny resit par opicek na pokusy, kdyz jich lidi vyvrazdujou tisice denne (nehlede na dalsi zivocichy) pri vypalovani a odlesnovani destnych pralesu.

    Tohle ma sanci pomoct milionum lidi. Resit nekolik (treba i tisicu) opic, kdyz jako lidstvo zpusobujeme hromadne vymirani druhu, to je trochu pokrytecky.

    A jo, chapu, ze je to whataboutismus, ale ono to jinak proste nejde. Zastavime kvuli tomu vedecky progress v cele oblasti?
    PALEONTOLOG
    PALEONTOLOG --- ---
    -2
    CROME: není soudná
    CROME
    CROME --- ---
    2 odpovědi+1
    YMLADRIS: Jako sorry tohle je uz za hranou fanboyismu
    SATAI
    SATAI --- ---
    +1
    E2E4: no vidíš, neumřely. Byly zabité. YMLADRIS si konstruuje vlastní realitu ;-)
    E2E4
    E2E4 --- ---
    1 odpověď+2
    YMLADRIS: ?? sám neuralink píše, že Elon lže, když tvrdí, že žádné opice neumřely..

    six animals were euthanized at the medical advice of the veterinary staff at UC Davis. These reasons included one surgical complication involving the use of the FDA-approved product (BioGlue), one implant's connecting hardware became loose, and four suspected infections, a risk inherent with any percutaneous medical device.

    Neuralink’s Commitment to Animal Welfare | Blog | Neuralink
    https://neuralink.com/blog/neuralink-s-commitment-to-animal-welfare/
    PATISLAV
    PATISLAV --- ---
    KAERO: nechápu, na co reaguješ, já neříkám, že tímhle videem to dělá, Dzodzo komentoval jeho kanál jako celek.
    YMLADRIS
    YMLADRIS --- ---
    4 odpovědi-3
    TADEAS: nevím jak to zjistit, realita není transparentní, lidi si ji konstruují :)

    Tady tvrdí že inspektoři byli impressed

    The USDA inspector who came by Neuralink facilities literally said that in her entire career she has never seen a better animal care facility — we are the nicest to the animals you could possibly be,

    Musk said that the company had used terminally ill monkeys for some of its early implants, reflecting comments he made in a post on X earlier this year, but insisted that no monkeys had died as a direct result of the Neuralink brain implant.

    "Neuralink has never caused the death of a monkey … In fact, we now have monkeys who have had Neuralink implants for two to three years, and they're doing great," he said.

    Elon Musk Says Neuralink Monkeys Live in Paradise
    https://www.businessinsider.com/elon-musk-neuralink-monkeys-live-in-paradise-denies-gruesome-deaths-2023-11
    KAERO
    KAERO --- ---
    1 odpověď+1
    PATISLAV: mozna je konzistentni, ale je manipulativni. Jestli chtel hodnotit automobilove a naftarske lobby, tak to u elektroauta nedava smysl. A jestli hodnoti car-centric design, tak mel to video nazvat "Cybertruck from EU city view - A tragedy", a zvolit jiny obrazek. (A kompletne zmenit styl mluveni, zahodit vsechny manipulace atd. atd.)
    KAERO
    KAERO --- ---
    1 odpověď-1
    NANUQ: a to ze je Musk zid ma s hodnocenim cybertrucku co presne? hodnoceni se snad da udelat nezavisle na tom jestli je zid nebo ne. Ale tech blbych argumentu tam bylo cele hafo.

    Uz jen ten zacatek - "Before Elon Musk was busy spreading Nazi conspiracy theories on Twitter...."
    To je proste manipulace jak stehno. Tak bud ten cybertruck je spatny, a nepotrebuje kvuli tomu manipulovat, nebo to nestoji za shlednuti.

    A ten argument ze v manualu je napsane ze se maji odstranovat ptaci hovna co nejdriv - sorry, ale to mam u sveho Renault Trafic v manualu taky, ze ho mam udrzovat cisty. Opet blby argument. Myslel jsem ze tam bude zaber konkretnich fleku nebo rzi, ale nic...

    Ano, cybertruck je hnusne velka krabice na kolech pro americany s velkymi ulicemi, ale opet to neni hodnoceni cybertrucku ale teto kategorie aut.

    Jak se vysmiva ze do cybertrucku se nevejde ani kolo - do toho raptora od fordu taky ne. To je proste vlastnost tehle kategorie aut.

    To ze na zacatku vyroby odhadovali cenu 40 k$, a ted je to 61 k$, protoze celosvetove inflace tlacila vsechny ceny nahoru, tam chytre radeji zmineno vubec neni.

    Je toho v tom videu spousta. Hnusne, tendencni, nevyvazene, predem zamerene nakydat co nejvetsi spinu, zamlcuji informace kde se hodi a vytahuji nesouvisejici veci.
    SATAI
    SATAI --- ---
    +1
    DZODZO: nejsi ty Patrik Nacher? #DvojíMetr
    DZODZO
    DZODZO --- ---
    1 odpověď-1
    PATISLAV: konzistentna pozice proti automobilovej lobby a car-centric cities sa da robit aj bez manipulativneho wordingu https://www.youtube.com/@NotJustBikes
    PATISLAV
    PATISLAV --- ---
    2 odpovědi
    DZODZO: ne, opravdu to není pro views, je to konzistentní pozice proti automobilový a naftařský lobby a car-centric designu městský infrastruktury.
    TOXICMAN
    TOXICMAN --- ---
    +3
    @NASASpaceflight
    Ship 29 is rolling back to the launch site for its Static Fire test ahead of flying on IFT-4.
    Kliknutím sem můžete změnit nastavení reklam