TADEAS: odpoved, jak to vyresit rychle klimaticka diktatura :)

ale ty to porad stavis do roviny, ze bud se neco zmeni ihned, nebo je konec se vsim zivym na zemi. tak to neni, jednak je to proces v case a jednak je uprostred mezi tema poly milion scenaru

SHEFIK: ja rozumim tomu, jak by to melo fungovat. Jako ze kdyz jsi napr expert kterej ma nazor, napr. potravinova sobestatcnost ano, nebo ne, tak bys musel pro CA to vysvetlit a popularizovat tak pochopitelne a dobre, aby to proste pochopil kdokoliv v sale. A tvuj nazorovy oponent totez. Versus parlamentni demokracie, kde zvedaji ruku a ani ten zakon tyvole necetli.

Ze je to dost utopicky, to se shodujeme. Proc by to ti experti delali ze, maji svuj job a ne zachranovat planetu

Timmermans defends higher EU goals on climate change – EURACTIV.com
https://www.euractiv.com/...e-environment/news/timmermans-defends-higher-eu-goals-on-climate-change/

The proposal, due in September, will be accompanied by a detailed economic analysis to evaluate the costs and benefits of reducing the EU’s greenhouse gas emissions by 50 or 55% below 1990 levels by 2030, up from 40% currently.

This cost-benefit analysis – or “impact assessment” in EU jargon – is eagerly awaited by EU countries, some of which have grown wary about the cost of climate action at a time when the economy is entering a recession caused by the COVID-19 health crisis.

In July, a group of six eastern EU countries sent a letter to the Commission warning about the extra costs this will entail for regions that are heavily dependent on polluting industries such as coal.

“Above all, the impact assessment should be realistic,” said the environment ministers of Bulgaria, the Czech Republic, Hungary, Poland, Romania and Slovakia.

“We are experiencing a global pandemic that will not end soon and there might be others to come. This is no longer business as usual, so neither the IA should be,” the six ministers wrote in a letter dated 13 July.

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TUHO: precti si TADEAS, tam mas shrnutou historii i osud techle snah co davas.

ad "The objectives of RA in relation to socio-economic dimensions, however, are general and lack a framework for implementation" -- nevim co je regenerativni zemedelstvi pro ne, pro me ten klic je holistic management, kde to jsou ti decision-makeri na kazde urovni, kteri si stanovuji ty "objectives" na zaklade svoji definice kvality zivota.

je to zas reduktivni snaha: my vs. ekosystem, kterej budeme managovat, sledovat jeho parametry, atd. vs. prijmeme tu plnou (hyperpredatorskou) roli a prijmeme, ze je to presne ta deifnice kvality zivota/zdroju, co urcuje ten management.

tyhle vyzkumy se proste furt motaj v tech stejnejch kategoriich a svetonazoru... neresiltelny, z myho pohledu. hodne stesti :)

Jinak nejakej prehled literatury, ktera se zabyva regenerative agriculture je zde...

Regenerative agriculture (RA) is proposed as a solution towards sustainable food systems. A variety of actors perceive RA differently, and a clear scientific definition is lacking. We reviewed 28 studies to find convergence and divergence between objectives and activities that define RA. Our results show convergence related to objectives that enhance the environment and stress the importance of socio-economic dimensions that contribute to food security. The objectives of RA in relation to socio-economic dimensions, however, are general and lack a framework for implementation. From our analysis, we propose a provisional definition of RA as an approach to farming that uses soil conservation as the entry point to regenerate and contribute to multiple ecosystem services.

Regenerative agriculture – the soil is the base - ScienceDirect
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2211912420300584

PETER_PAN: spolecnost se ale nesklada jen z lidi, coz bylo mozny rict pouze z urcity luxusni historicky pozice. na party prisel grizzly a vsem ukousnul hlavu, typkovi v tesle i hipikovi u studanky

TADEAS: Aha. To bude pak jeste tezsi nez pres politiku v soucasne demokracii.
Spolecnost se sklada z odlisnych lidi, kteri prestoze uznaji problem, budou hledat jina jeho reseni, tak aby vysledek smeroval k jejich videni sveta. Presne jak pises "... ze nejdulezitejsi je ten proces, kterym si spolecenstvi urcuje, co chce."
- Ja chci jezdit v elektrickym aute 250km/h po dalnici, nakladat mlady holky a vecer grilovat steaky z Black Anguse a zapijet to cervenym vinem ze Spanelska. A tomu chci uzpusobenou infrastrukturu a managment.
- A nekdo jiny chce jezdit na kole k mistni studance, vecer kosou posekat travnicek za roubenkou a dat si veganskou tycinku se sklenickou pramenite vody. A tomu chce uzpusobit infrastrukturu a managment.
:D

TADEAS: No ke zmene se da pristupovat ze spousta ruznejch bodu. Kdyz dobre rozpracujes nejakou specifickou teorii, ta samotna muze promenit nastaveni spolecnosti a posunout zajem jinym smerem resp menit to "co si spolecenstvi stanovi jako dulezity, vposled tu kvalitu zivot". Neni to tak, ze nejaka abstraktni spolecnost se nejak rozhodla a potom se drzi sveho planu. Jeji zamereni a rozhodnuti je vyslednici xyz ruznejch tlaku, smerovani, atraktoru.