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    TUHOKlimaticka zmena / Thank you so much for ruining my day


    "Given the sheer enormity of climate change, it’s okay to be depressed, to grieve. But please, don’t stay there too long. Join me in pure, unadulterated, righteous anger."


    "I don’t want your hope. I don’t want you to be hopeful. I want you to panic. I want you to feel the fear I feel every day. And then I want you to act. Once you start to act, the hope is everywhere."

    "Our best scientists tell us insistently that a calamity is unfolding, that the life-support systems of the Earth are being damaged in ways that threaten our survival. Yet in the face of these facts we carry on as usual."

    “We’ve got to stop burning fossil fuels. So many aspects of life depend on fossil fuels, except for music and love and education and happiness. These things, which hardly use fossil fuels, are what we must focus on.”

    A nejde o to, že na to nemáme dostatečné technologie, ty by na řešení použít šly, ale chybí nám vůle a představivost je využít. Zůstáváme při zemi, přemýšlíme až moc rezervovaně. Technologický pokrok to sám o sobě nevyřeší. Problém jsme my, ne technologické nástroje.

    Rostouci hladiny oceanu, zmena atmosferickeho proudeni, zmeny v distribuci srazek a sucha. Zmeny karbonoveho, fosforoveho a dusikoveho cyklu, okyselovani oceanu. Jake jsou bezpecnostni rizika a jake potencialni klady dramatickych zmen fungovani zemskeho systemu?
    Ale take jak funguji masove dezinformacni kampane ropneho prumyslu a boj o verejne mineni na prahu noveho klimatickeho rezimu post-holocenu.
    rozbalit záhlaví
    TADEAS
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    PER2:

    On Wednesday, a nonprofit organization called SilverLining announced $3 million in research grants to Cornell University, the University of Washington, Rutgers University, the National Center for Atmospheric Research and others. The work will focus on practical questions, such as how high in the atmosphere to inject sunlight-reflecting aerosols, how to shoot the right size particles into clouds to make them brighter, and the effect on the world’s food supply

    ...

    growing body of work already underway. In December, Congress gave the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration $4 million to research the technology. NOAA will also start gathering data that will let it detect whether other countries start using geoengineering secretly. And Australia is funding experiments to determine whether and how the technology can save the Great Barrier Reef.

    “Decarbonizing is necessary but going to take 20 years or more,” Chris Sacca, co-founder of Lowercarbon Capital, an investment group that is one of SilverLining’s funders, said in a statement. “If we don’t explore climate interventions like sunlight reflection now, we are surrendering countless lives, species, and ecosystems to heat.”

    One way to cool the earth is by injecting aerosols into the upper layer of the atmosphere, where those particles reflect sunlight away from the earth. That process works, according to Douglas MacMartin, a researcher in mechanical and aerospace engineering at Cornell University whose team received funding. “We know with 100 percent certainty that we can cool the planet,” Dr. MacMartin said in an interview.

    What’s still unclear, he added, is what happens next.

    Temperature, Dr. MacMartin said, is a proxy for a lot of climate effects. “What does it do to the strength of hurricanes? What does it do to agriculture yields? What does it do to the risk of forest fires?”

    To help answer those questions, Dr. MacMartin will model the specific weather effects of injecting aerosols into the atmosphere above different parts of the globe, and also at different altitudes. “Depending on where you put it, you will have different effects on the monsoon in Asia,” he said. “You will have different effects on Arctic sea ice.”

    ...

    Injecting aerosol into the stratosphere isn’t the only way to bounce more of the sun’s rays back into space. The Australian government is funding research into what’s called “marine cloud brightening,” which is meant to make clouds more reflective by spraying saltwater into the air. The goal is to get salt particles to act as nuclei in those clouds, encouraging the formation of many small water droplets, which will increase the brightness of the clouds.

    Australian researchers say they hope the technique can save the Great Barrier Reef.
    PER2
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    YMLADRIS: just matter of time

    "Congress gave the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration $4 million to research the technology. NOAA will also start gathering data that will let it detect whether other countries start using geoengineering secretly.....
    ....NOAA is starting its own research into solar geoengineering. And in August, the agency announced that it would begin measuring aerosol levels in the stratosphere, creating a baseline so the agency can tell if those levels change later."
    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/28/climate/climate-change-geoengineering.html

    JIMIQ
    JIMIQ --- ---
    Navic mi ty panely prijdou i dost drahy, ne? 300Wp za 16k?
    PAD
    PAD --- ---
    JIMIQ: No jo, ale to v praxi v podstate nejde zaridit. I ty vytezovace maji nejake zpozdeni, k malym pretokum tam proste dochazet bude. Kazdopadne technicky to znamena namontovat do hlavniho rozvadece nejaky meric, ktery kdyztak FVE vypne, pripadne preroutuje tu energii jinam (bojleru atp). A pri takove investici uz je lepsi ten instalovany vykon rovnou posilit, aby se to cele nejak rozume vyplatilo. Zatim mi to prijde spis jako super zpusob, jak lidem prodat rychle panely a vydelat na tom ...
    YMLADRIS
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    JIMIQ
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    Ve faq pisou ze musis vse spotrebovat doma aby te diatributor neprudil
    KEB
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    PAD: nemám tucha náhodou jsem na to narazil
    PAD
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    DZODZO: jsem si nevsiml, diky! Tak by me pak zajimalo, jak to maji vyreseny s distributorem. Nemuzes do site jen tak posilat elektrinu. Taky je nove povinnost pripojit menic na sinal HDO (aby to distributor mohl v nouzi vypnout). No nic, jsem OT. Kazdopadne zajimavy koncept ...
    DZODZO
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    PAD: pisu ze sa to tam napojuje na bezny zasuvkovy okruh, takze to musi byt sucastou siete, pokial je budova pripojena do siete, skor mi tam chybaju nejake baterky na tie pretoky
    PAD
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    KEB: zajimavy! Nevis, jak resi pretoky? Nebo se to vubec nenapojuje na grid?
    KEB
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    Jak vymazat uhlí. V Česku vzniká komunitní solární elektrárna | Týdeník pro ekonomiku, politiku a byznys
    https://www.tydenikhrot.cz/clanek/vznika-ceska-komunitni-solarni-elektrarna

    Solární panely pro všechny!
    KEB
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    DZODZO: hmmm mám z toho pocit, že se částečně demagogii nevyhnula ani jedna strana. Stejně si myslím, že by to byl krok správným směrem.
    DZODZO
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    KEB: tie tri koruny som si nevymyslel ja, to tak chcu ti vymyselnici z tej iniciativy :)

    https://zpravy.aktualne.cz/finance/nakupovani/vratne-lahve/r~4ae11822305a11eab259ac1f6b220ee8/

    navyse ta iniciativa sama na svojich strankach klame: "Země jako Německo, Švédsko či Chorvatsko dosáhly díky zálohovým systémům až 98% míry zpětného odběru petek" v tom Svedsku to nie je 98% ale nejakych 85%, proste mam problem verit niekomu, ze to mysli dobre, ked uz od samotnej prezentaci myslienky klame :)
    YMLADRIS
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    Geoengineering: A Horrible Idea We Might Have to Do
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSu5sXmsur4
    TADEAS
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    How is climate change affecting global water security? | World Economic Forum
    https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2020/09/climate-change-impact-water-security-risk/

    From Yemen to India, and parts of Central America to the African Sahel, about a quarter of the world's people face extreme water shortages that are fueling conflict, social unrest and migration, water experts said on Wednesday.

    With the world's population rising and climate change bringing more erratic rainfall, including severe droughts, competition for scarcer water is growing, they said, with serious consequences.

    "If there is no water, people will start to move. If there is no water, politicians are going to try and get their hands on it and they might start to fight over it," warned Kitty van der Heijden, head of international cooperation at the Netherlands' foreign ministry.

    PER2
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    SHEFIK: to mi pripomnelo :)
    " který umí rozložit PET láhev s udivující rychlostí"
    Červený trpaslík - brambory (Pete I.)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bsCAgz-Ichs
    SHEFIK
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    k nedavny diskuzi o plastech

    Budeme v budoucnu bez plastového odpadu? Slibnou nadějí je super enzym, který umí rozložit PET láhev s udivující rychlostí - Ekolist.cz
    https://ekolist.cz/...ibnou-nadeji-je-super-enzym-ktery-umi-rozlozit-pet-lahev-s-udivujici-rychlosti

    Plastic-eating enzyme 'cocktail' heralds new hope for plastic waste
    https://phys.org/news/2020-09-plastic-eating-enzyme-cocktail-heralds-plastic.html
    TADEAS
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    TADEAS
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    When the Methane News Stinks – let’s not forget to Breathe then Act – Professor Jem Bendell
    https://jembendell.com/2020/10/28/methane/

    They contest the significance of the new measurements and they question the credibility of the scientists involved. Their views then are echoed by science communicators, and non-climatology scholars, who have chosen to criticise any view or person they deem to be alarmist or doomist.

    Given the potential implications of the news on methane emissions, a dismissive reaction leaves a lot to be desired. Instead, we urgently need to have scientists up in the Arctic crosschecking the measurements. The current unprecedented lack of refreeze of the Arctic ice is another reason for emergency attention to this matter. There should be an international emergency summit to consider a range of responses in addition to bold cuts and drawdown of CO2. Discussion of possible responses might include the safest forms of localised geo-engineering and preparations for coping better with major disruptions with water and food supplies, sea levels, forest fires and so forth. Some of those possible responses would be risky or even counterproductive, but that is not a reason for not starting the discussion.

    TUHO
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    TUHO: Gavin Schmidt
    @ClimateOfGavin
    No argument with your first two points. But whether Arctic permafrost methane is a substantial feedback is very much disputed. In earlier periods with warmer Arctic conditions than today, nothing like this happened, and the evidence that anything is changing over time now is weak

    Gavin Schmidt
    People have been claiming this for a decade now and there is still no evidence of increasing arctic methane in the atmosphere. Evidence that this is a big effect is totally lacking in the Early Holocene and Last Interglacial when the Arctic was significantly warmer than today.
    TUHO
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    TADEAS: :DD Tahle scena se mi casto vybavuje v nasi situaci .]]
    XCHAOS: Na druhou stranu, tady Gavin Schmidt a Michael Mann kratke vyjadreni k tomu:


    Gavin Schmidt
    This story is... unconvincing. First off it’s just two scientists (no publication), one of whom has made similar (unsupported) claims before & ignores the context that permafrost & methane have been degrading in this region since it was inundated in the early Holocene.

    Climate scientists throw cold water on 'Arctic methane bomb' report
    https://www.theweek.com/...ads/946300/climate-scientists-throw-cold-water-arctic-methane-bomb-report
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