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    TUHOKlimaticka zmena / Thank you so much for ruining my day


    "Given the sheer enormity of climate change, it’s okay to be depressed, to grieve. But please, don’t stay there too long. Join me in pure, unadulterated, righteous anger."


    "I don’t want your hope. I don’t want you to be hopeful. I want you to panic. I want you to feel the fear I feel every day. And then I want you to act. Once you start to act, the hope is everywhere."

    "Our best scientists tell us insistently that a calamity is unfolding, that the life-support systems of the Earth are being damaged in ways that threaten our survival. Yet in the face of these facts we carry on as usual."

    “We’ve got to stop burning fossil fuels. So many aspects of life depend on fossil fuels, except for music and love and education and happiness. These things, which hardly use fossil fuels, are what we must focus on.”

    A nejde o to, že na to nemáme dostatečné technologie, ty by na řešení použít šly, ale chybí nám vůle a představivost je využít. Zůstáváme při zemi, přemýšlíme až moc rezervovaně. Technologický pokrok to sám o sobě nevyřeší. Problém jsme my, ne technologické nástroje.

    Rostouci hladiny oceanu, zmena atmosferickeho proudeni, zmeny v distribuci srazek a sucha. Zmeny karbonoveho, fosforoveho a dusikoveho cyklu, okyselovani oceanu. Jake jsou bezpecnostni rizika a jake potencialni klady dramatickych zmen fungovani zemskeho systemu?
    Ale take jak funguji masove dezinformacni kampane ropneho prumyslu a boj o verejne mineni na prahu noveho klimatickeho rezimu post-holocenu.
    rozbalit záhlaví
    TUHO
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    WOODMAKER: Promin, to z my strany bylo zbytecny. Asi tim, ze jsem tehle debat prosel uz celou radu a jsem z toho lehce unavenej.
    Problem s tou otazkou nemam ani tak, ze je odpoved samozrejma, jako ze je spis strasne siroka. A sofistikovane na ni odpovedet by zabralo imho fakt solidni traktat. Plus je to tema dost politizovany, takze je kolem toho cela rada mytu. Co znamena "ekologictejsi" znamena vzdycky na kontextu a je dulezity podle me pro nejakou smysluplnou diskuzi si to tema nejak zuzovat / specifikovat.
    Elektromobilita jako takova ekologictejsi sama o sobe byt nemusi. Zalezi jaky jsou s ni spojeny okolnosti vyrobniho procesu, recyklace, vyroby energie atp.
    Z pohledu tematu klubu: elektromobilita s sebou nese velkej potencial, o kterym mluvi treba SHEFIK: - moznost krmit to nizkouhlikovou energii, zapojovat elektromobily do decentralizovanych ulozist na stabilizaci site zalozene na OZE, recyklace materialu, mensi naroky na udrzbu motoru etc.
    Elektromobility maj treba vyssi emisni narocnost na vyrobu (predevsim diky energii nutny na vyrobu baterii), ale ten se rychle smazava diky jejich provozu, kdy maji zase emisni narocnost nizsi. Zalezi samozrejme v jakym jezdis aute, na jaky vzdalenosti, jak casto, v jakym provozu, v jaky siti...

    Ale treba prostor pro dodrzeni cilu Parizsky dohody za pouziti masivniho pouzivani spalovacich motoru moc nevidim, protoze to by predpokladalo masivni nasazeni bud syntetickych paliv nebo biopaliv (ktery zase prinasej dalsi problemy) nebo masivniho nasazeni carbon capture and storage (ktery je v nedohlednu).
    SEJDA
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    WOODMAKER: ano, pokud zvazujes koupi noveho auta, je "uhlikova stopa" (ekvivalenty CO2) vyrovnana po 1. roku provozu, potom uz je EV "zelenejsi". Pokud premyslis, jestli ma smysl hodit soucasne, jeste dobre auto do bazaru a okamzite si koupit EV auto, vyrovna se "uhlikova stopa" po 3 letech. Pri napajeni ze site, tj. energetickeho mixu, cim vice budes napajet vlastnim solarnim systemem, tim drive a tim vice bude tve auto zelene.

    Pak jde o veci, ktere se nedaji prepocitat na ekvivalent CO2, jako treba emise prachu, karcinogennich latek v blizkosti skol, skolek, nemocnic, obytnych ctvrti atd.
    SHEFIK
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    WOODMAKER: ja bych tu zas drzel motivaci, kdyz se nekdo zajma :)

    Summary: Vyroba ne (kvuli lithiovym bateriim, coz se v budoucnu muze a pravdepodobne zmeni), provoz pak ano. Dve perspektivy:

    - Energie (cim cistsi vyroba, tim driv je ekologictesji nez spalovak)
    - provoz a udrzba nasobne levnejsi/ekologictejsi diky mensimu poctu nahradnich dilu

    Dle studii v aktualnim evropskem energetickem mixu je EV ekologictejsi po 100.000km.

    Podklady uz si dohledej sam v historii diskuze, nebo pres google.
    WOODMAKER
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    TUHO: tvaris se s odpovedi tak samozrejme, ze si z toho vezmu "jo". Ok
    TUHO
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    WOODMAKER: Sorry, ale drzme tady aspon nejakou elementarni uroven otazek :))
    WOODMAKER
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    A ty elektroauta jsou ekologictejsi, nez ty se spalovacimi motory?
    SHEFIK
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    #positive

    Nová auta už jen elektrická, rozhodli europoslanci. Blíží se konec spalovacích motorů - Aktuálně.cz
    https://zpravy.aktualne.cz/zahranici/evropsky-parlament/hlasuje-se-o-budoucnosti-spalovacich-aut-mezi-europoslanci-n/r~575522c6e73a11ec8980ac1f6b220ee8/?
    TADEAS
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    Australian methane emissions massively underestimated - report - BBC News
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-australia-61727940

    The IEA has estimated Australian coal mines emitted 1.8 million tonnes of methane in 2021, double the latest officially reported figures, the report said.

    "At the current level, methane leaking from coal mines will put Australia's modest 2030 climate targets well out of reach."
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    As the Great Salt Lake Dries Up, Utah Faces An ‘Environmental Nuclear Bomb’ - The New York Times
    https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/07/climate/salt-lake-city-climate-disaster.html
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    MEPs vote to end sale of petrol and diesel car by 2035 in EU | European Union | The Guardian
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jun/08/meps-reject-key-eu-climate-proposal-watered-down-european-emissions-trading-system
    JINDRICH
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    Konference Výzkum, vývoj a inovace pro řešení klimatické změny v ČR (23. 6. 2022, Lichtenštejnský palác v Praze) | Výzkum a vývoj v ČR
    https://www.vyzkum.cz/FrontAktualita.aspx?aktualita=972835

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    20220607-230853
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    After extensive research, I can now reveal how net zero will stabilise temperatures to below 1.5°C.

    20220607-230734
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    RADIQAL: supr, dik :)
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    The problem of global energy inequity, explained by American refrigerators - Vox
    https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/23106061/energy-inequity-world-electricity-american-refrigerators

    Many of the world’s poorest countries don’t have the energy they need to thrive and survive in a warming world. The world needs to prioritize how to get much higher levels of energy to these countries.

    Energy access is a foundational component of development, yet many people across Africa and Asia don’t have the energy they need to thrive — and even survive — in a warming world. To Americans, living in 110°F heat without air conditioning is almost unthinkable, but for billions of people around the world, cooling is an unaffordable luxury due to poverty and the lack of access to reliable electricity.

    Energy poverty pervades all areas of life and makes people reliant on suboptimal sources of power, like burning coal or biomass. It’s a major cause of health issues. Indoor air pollution leads to an estimated 3.8 million premature deaths each year.

    Even in areas where there isn’t as much risk of illness and death from heat, someone without reliable energy access won’t have regular lighting to study at night, won’t have a smartphone to gain access to new farming techniques and markets, won’t be able to prevent food spoilage at home.

    There are of course climate and carbon trade-offs involved in expanding energy access, but as renewable energy becomes more widespread and affordable, it’s becoming increasingly possible to balance growth with sustainability.
    TADEAS
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    Poland has announced that, due to interest from the Czech Republic, Slovakia and Ukraine, it will double the size of its planned new floating liquefied natural gas (LNG) terminal in Gdańsk.

    Poland doubles size of planned gas terminal due to Ukrainian, Czech and Slovak interest | Notes From Poland
    https://notesfrompoland.com/2022/06/06/poland-to-double-planned-size-of-gas-terminal-due-to-ukrainian-czech-and-slovak-interest/
    TADEAS
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    BBC Sounds - The Climate Tipping Points - Available Episodes
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/brand/m00180cc

    Justin Rowlatt, to future generations: “I’m so sorry”. And noting that future generations may well have good records of who did what, and so who is to praise, and who,to blame.
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    SHEFIK: Takový nedostatek vody jsme tu neměli už pět milionů let
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    climate hauntologies: notes on reading carbon removal through Mark Fisher | by Holly Jean | Medium
    https://medium.com/@hollyjeanbuck/climate-hauntologies-notes-on-reading-carbon-removal-through-mark-fisher-61c4988fe57

    Capitalist realism, writes Mark Fisher, is “the widespread sense that not only is capitalism the only viable political and economic system, but also that it is now impossible to even imagine a coherent alternative to it.”

    Climate change intersects with this.

    On one hand, there are emergent forms of climate realism / climate doomerism — that it’s unrealistic to think we will mount a response to climate change, or that we can’t imagine a response.

    On the other hand, we may see fossil realism emerging: that it’s unrealistic to think we can imagine an alternative to fossil fuels. That they are so embedded in our infrastructure, imbricated in the pattern of how all things modern grow, in our financial system and institutions, that they can’t be removed, or something like that.

    So far, though, the environmental movement has done a pretty good job of making a coherent imaginary about renewable energy. They have fought hard to make this an imaginable, tangible thing to strive towards — to a point.

    The problem is that we will soon be up against various limitations of what wind / water / solar can do — social limitations, land use conflicts, critical minerals, etc. To keep warming below 1.5°, and probably 2°C, we need wind/water/solar and a bunch of ands — and nuclear, and carbon capture, and what the Swedish government refers to as “supplementary measures”, aka carbon removal. We will need all the ands even though some of them do not fit into what mainstream environmentalists view as the good life.

    Varieties of realism about carbon removal abound as well. You may hear technoeconomic realism: Carbon removal isn’t realistic, it’s not mature technology, it will never be built at scale, it costs too much, it’s magical thinking. You may hear (from the same people) a sort of entrenched interests realism: If carbon removal does happen, it’s only by fossil fuel interests, they own it and will control it.

    Both of these may be true. What I want to point out here is the inconsistency of these forms of realism, because they are not applied to the challenge of full decarbonization, technically nor politically. Wind/water/solar, on the other hand, must be viewed as fully realistic.

    ...

    Mark Fisher described how the latest form of capitalism involves a turn from belief to aesthetics and from engagement to spectatorship, leaving us, as Fisher described, the “consumer-spectator, trudging through the ruins and the relics.”

    Yet another explanation for the failure of contemporary environmentalism to be new and widely moving is the wider exhaustion identified by Fisher: new cultural ideas are not really being generated, and environmental imaginaries are just one more instance. Fisher attributes some of this in high-rent cities and more — “Neoliberal capitalism has gradually but systematically deprived artists of the resources necessary to produce the new-middle-class.”

    “We remain trapped in the 20th century. The slow cancellation of the future has been accompanied by a deflation of expectations.”

    ...

    That which has not yet happened, but which is already acting: doomerism. The climate apocalypse is unfolding unevenly, and for some people, regions, and ecosystems it is already here; yet a complete climate breakdown is still in the future.

    Why does it have such purchase on contemporary imaginations?

    “Environmental catastrophe provides what a political unconscious totally colonized by neoliberalism cannot: an image of life after capitalism,” writes Fisher. Perhaps that is part of its appeal.

    Fisher compares capitalist realism to “the deflationary perspective of a depressive who believes that any positive state, any hope, is a dangerous illusion.”

    Climate Twitter is rife with this mood. Obviously, climate change is a sharp danger, but it’s clear to an observer that something more is going on here than reacting to a danger, something religious in nature which is seeps into and shapes daily interaction

    ...

    We have seen a decade of rising authoritarianism and the disappointing failures of the promises of globalization (much of which was predictable, in left critiques of globalization).

    But we have not integrated these disappointments, facts, events, and trends into climate strategy.

    Thinking about climate seems to proceed along local lines; when the global enters, it’s in the context of solidarity, of echoing calls for climate justice and climate finance from developing nations. It’s like we expect the same strategies that failed in these other places in the 2010s to also deliver climate action. We need a new way of thinking about this. Otherwise, we’re left with fossil realism and climate realism.
    SHEFIK
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    #doomed #food_crisis #water_wars

    Francie, čtvrtá největší světová obilnice, bojuje s katastrofálním suchem. „Pršelo tu naposledy v lednu“
    https://denikn.cz/895217/francie-ctvrta-nejvetsi-svetova-obilnice-bojuje-s-katastrofalnim-suchem-prselo-tu-naposledy-v-lednu/

    Jestli hned nezačnu zalévat, přijdu o polovinu úrody,“ nepochybuje Robin Lachaux ze Sully-sur-Loire v Loiretu ve střední Francii, kde letos pršelo o polovinu méně než obvykle. „Mám zalévat obilí teď? Nebo si vodu šetřit na kukuřici v srpnu?“ láme si hlavu kvůli šedesátiprocentnímu limitu na spotřebu vody zavedenému v jeho regionu.

    Má obavy, že malá úroda ho donutí nakupovat krmivo pro devadesát krav, tři sta koz a osm tisíc kuřat na mezinárodním trhu. Ceny zemědělských surovin mezitím – v souvislosti s ruskou válkou proti Ukrajině a čtyřnásobným nárůstem cen energií za poslední dva roky – prudce stouply.

    ...

    Francouzská zemědělská komora (APCA) odhaduje ztráty zemědělců v souvislosti s letošním suchem na průměrně 20–30 procent.

    „Do konce léta zasáhne sucho všechny regiony,“ potvrzuje ministerstvo zemědělství. Prognózy Météo France předpovídají o polovinu (na jihu dokonce o 70 procent) sušší léto než obvykle.

    ...

    Ve Francii padá rekord za rekordem: Loňský prosinec byl nejteplejší od roku 1947.

    Od ledna byly každý měsíc naměřeny nejvyšší teploty daného období.

    Letošní jaro je třetí nejsušší období od roku 1960 s vysokými teplotami, které přetrvávají více než 40 dnů v řadě.

    Květen – nejteplejší a nejsušší od začátku měření – odpovídal letos spíše červenci (průměrně o 10 °C více než v letech 1980–2010).

    ...

    Takový nedostatek vody jsme tu neměli už pětadvacet let,“ shrnuje to Christiane Lambertová z Národní federace zemědělských odborových svazů (FNSEA).

    „Začíná válka o vodu,“ soudí hydroložka Emma Hazizaová.
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    Atmospheric Carbon Dioxide Levels Reach New High | Scripps Institution of Oceanography
    https://scripps.ucsd.edu/news/atmospheric-carbon-dioxide-levels-reach-new-high

    CO2 levels are now comparable to an ancient climate event known as the Pliocene Climatic Optimum, between 4.1 and 4.5 million years ago, when they were close to, or above 400 ppm. During that time, sea levels were between five and 25 meters (16 and 82 feet) higher than today, high enough to drown many of the world’s largest cities. Temperatures then averaged 14 degrees Celsius (7 degrees Fahrenheit) higher than in pre-industrial times, and studies indicate that large forests occupied today’s Arctic tundra.
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    kfc adaptuje

    KFC Australia forced to swap lettuce for cabbage - BBC News
    https://www.bbc.com/news/business-61714989

    The firm told customers it is using a mixture of lettuce and cabbage after floods destroyed lettuce crops.
    It comes as shoppers in Australia have been hit with soaring prices for some fresh fruits and vegetables.
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