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    TUHOKlimaticka zmena / Thank you so much for ruining my day
    PER2
    PER2 --- ---
    SHEFIK:
    It is estimated that there are now trillions of microplastic particles in the marine environment. 

    Microplastics are of concern because of their widespread presence in the oceans and the potential physical and toxicological risks they pose to organisms.
    Microplastics can be ingested by a wide range of animals and have been found in organisms ranging in size from small invertebrates to large mammals. 
    Laboratory studies have shown there is potential for this to lead to harmful effects and it is estimated that unless we change our ways there, within this century, will be wide scale and potentially irreversible effects in the natural environment. 
    While there are still many unanswered questions about the amounts of microplastic debris that might be accumulating and the types of harm they could present, there is a growing consensus we should urgently take action to reduce the flow of plastic into the environment.
    SHEFIK
    SHEFIK --- ---
    PER2: proc vetsi problem?
    PER2
    PER2 --- ---
    YMLADRIS:
    0,1 g/m2
    0,01 g/m2
    0,001 g/m2

    SOLID


    (nicmene tohle vidim porad jako mnohem mnohem vetsi problem nez co2)
    YMLADRIS
    YMLADRIS --- ---
    solid

    TUHO
    TUHO --- ---
    TUHO: Unexpectedly, climate skepticism has consistently grown over the past 3 years (37%, +6 pts in 3 years), and is particularly striking in France this year (37%, +8 pts in one year)2 whereas concern about the environment is particularly strong in that country. More specifically, the idea that has progressed the most is not a denial of change, but the notion that it is “mainly due to the kinds of natural phenomena that the Earth has experienced throughout its history”. So fewer people than before consider that it is due to human activity: 63% c.f. 69% in 2019. However, France remains less concerned by climate skepticism than the fossil-fuel-producing countries (Saudi Arabia: 60%, Norway: 48%, Russia: 48%, United Arab Emirates: 46%, USA (48%))
    TUHO
    TUHO --- ---
    In a period marked by heavy inflation, economic concerns have been growing whereas environmental concerns have been stagnating on a global level

    https://www.ipsos.com/en/obscop-2022
    SHEFIK
    SHEFIK --- ---
    NYRLEM: rozumim. To uz je ale uhel pozorovatele :)
    NYRLEM
    NYRLEM --- ---
    SHEFIK: no prave, to tim taky myslim. Globalni mechanismus neni jak vynutit a diky tomu to neni zadny pat, ale momentalne spis prohra Evropskeho vnimani problemu.
    SHEFIK
    SHEFIK --- ---
    NYRLEM: ja bych zase nerekl, ze na to vsichni serou. nedavno tu nekde taky prolitlo v nejakem clanku (aby to nebylo jen me tvrzeni):

    Jedna firma, kdyz se rozhodne neprodukovat emise, pri soucasnych technologiich/alternativach ztraci konkurencni vyhodu, pac bude mit vyssi naklady a ostatni proste naklady za emise nenesou - teda az na nastroje jako emisni povolenky, ale to je regionalni rozmer, ne globalni a neni ani adekvatne nastaveny.

    Je tam potreba nejaky globalni mechanismus, nebo alespon minimalne globalni konsenzus/commitment a tam uz se dostavame bliz k ty definici patove situace
    NYRLEM
    NYRLEM --- ---
    SHEFIK: nerikal bych tomu pat, kdyz na to nejvetsi producenti emisi "serou" ..
    SHEFIK
    SHEFIK --- ---
    Hezky summary / prednaska soucasny patovy situace

    Mezinárodní klimatické právo je zoufale pomalé a zatím málo účinné. Je to ale jediný civilizovaný nástroj, který máme, říká Hana Müllerová - Ekolist.cz
    https://ekolist.cz/cz/zpravodajstvi/zpravy/mezinarodni-klimaticke-pravo-je-zoufale-pomale-a-zatim-malo-ucinne.je-to-ale-jediny-civilizovany-nastroj-ktery-mame-rika
    TADEAS
    TADEAS --- ---
    Rozhovor Britských listů 552. Budou ekologičtí aktivisté protestující proti Křetínskému shazováni z vrtulníků? | 9. 12. 2022 | Britské listy
    https://blisty.cz/art/110997-rozhovor-britskych-listu-552-budou-ekologicti-aktiviste-protestujici-proti-kretinskemu-shazovani-z-vrtulniku.html
    YMLADRIS
    YMLADRIS --- ---
    SHEFIK: spis maji plne kecky blizsich spatnych veci
    SHEFIK
    SHEFIK --- ---
    Lepsi ale na spatny veci nemyslet

    CVVM: Lidí, kteří se zajímají o problematiku změny klimatu, ubylo - Ekolist.cz
    https://ekolist.cz/cz/zpravodajstvi/zpravy/cvvm-lidi-kteri-se-zajimaji-o-problematiku-zmeny-klimatu-ubylo

    Lidí, kteří se zajímají o problematiku změny klimatu, ubylo. Zájem o tuto oblast v průzkumu Centra pro výzkum veřejného mínění (CVVM) deklarovalo 39 procent lidí, což je proti rokům 2021 a 2020 o téměř 15 procentních bodů méně
    SHEFIK
    SHEFIK --- ---
    TADEAS: ona ani ta psenka koukam nepokvete

    Soil in midwestern US is eroding 10 to 1,000 times faster than it forms, study finds -- ScienceDaily
    https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2022/12/221207141746.htm
    PER2
    PER2 --- ---
    YMLADRIS: kdo by chtel vic, greenland je jistota

    A 2-million-year-old ecosystem in Greenland uncovered by environmental DNA
    https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-022-05453-y
    YMLADRIS
    YMLADRIS --- ---
    emigracni cil je jasny

    PER2
    PER2 --- ---
    SHEFIK: poradny sucho vypada takhle
    1877-9 - china - drought for 3 years - 9-13M ppl dead
    YMLADRIS
    YMLADRIS --- ---
    podcast o knizce Nomad Century na tema jak teda odmigrovat takove mraky lidi, jak se cekaji ze bude nutno odmigrovat do 2100

    Gaia Vince on how climate change will shape where people live
    https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-022-04132-2
    TADEAS
    TADEAS --- ---
    SHEFIK: zvířata nepotřebujeme, stačí pšenka pro lidi
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