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    TUHOKlimaticka zmena / Thank you so much for ruining my day
    TUHO
    TUHO --- ---
    L4MA: imho presne tohle si fosilnpropaganda preje, abysi vsichni mysleli.

    ten potencial je prave znacnej, proto tam posilaj tolik lobbistu, aby se to snazili potopit
    STARDAY
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    me by zajimalo, jak prakticky tyhle mega setkani fungujou. krome toho, ze to je obri konference, kde probiha velky chlubeni a lobovani, tak jak prakticky probihaji jednani, kteramaji vest k nejakym zaverum
    SHEFIK
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    SCHWEPZ: vlk se nazere transition a akciova koza zustane cela
    L4MA
    L4MA --- ---
    YMLADRIS: nebude to mít vliv absolutně na nic co bylo udajnym predmetem setkani, nicmene v petrokuloarech se jiste nezahalelo. :)
    YMLADRIS
    YMLADRIS --- ---

    vase pocity kolem COP28

    21 hlasy od 21 respondentů

    SCHWEPZ
    SCHWEPZ --- ---
    TUHO: jojo, na 28.mém setkání to tam zaznělo ,-) Tleskali i ropní šejkové :D

    "Instead of the phrase "phase out" the text tells countries to "transition away" from fossil fuels, beginning this decade"
    'Historic' COP28 deal to 'transition away' from fossil fuels adopted | World News | Sky News
    https://news.sky.com/story/cop28-draft-resolution-no-reference-to-phasing-out-fossil-fuels-13029230

    'Historic' COP28 deal to 'transition away' from fossil fuels adopted - BBC News
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88FMgyUlNqY
    TUHO
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    SCHWEPZ: takze nakonec jistej progres?

    For the first time ever, COP28 ended with a deal to transition the world away from fossil fuels, Bloomberg reports. It says the United Arab Emirates (UAE) president Sultan Al Jaber arrived at a deal “strong enough for the US and EU on the need to dramatically curb fossil fuel use while keeping Saudi Arabia and other oil producers on board”. It notes that Al Jaber brought the gavel down on the so-called “global stocktake” text on Wednesday morning – a day later than when COP28 was scheduled to conclude – and was greeted by applause and cheers by delegates. The draft text of the global stocktake deal, which was published early this morning, “calls on parties to contribute to the following global efforts”, including “transitioning away from fossil fuels in energy systems in a just, orderly and equitable manner, accelerating action in this critical decade, so as to achieve net-zero by 2050”, Le Monde reports. It notes that the text does not include a request to “phase out” fossil fuels as many countries and civil society groups hoped for. According to the Press Association, the agreement “defied the expectations of many observers who thought that the host country being a major oil exporter would be too much of a conflict of interest”.

    COP28 ends with deal on transition away from fossil fuels - Carbon Brief
    https://www.carbonbrief.org/daily-brief/cop28-ends-with-deal-on-transition-away-from-fossil-fuels
    SCHWEPZ
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    Konec fosilních paliv. Česko se na COP28 přidalo k zemím, které navrhly historické prohlášení | iROZHLAS - spolehlivé zprávy
    https://www.irozhlas.cz/zpravy-svet/cop28-klima-fosilni-paliva-rezoluce-jednani-dohoda_2312130823_kac
    TUHO
    TUHO --- ---
    R_U_SIRIOUS: jako nejaky (podstatny) zmeny uz se podarily. ale bohuzel porad stale malo

    Most people don’t realize how much progress we’ve made on climate change » Yale Climate Connections
    https://yaleclimateconnections.org/2023/11/most-people-dont-realize-how-much-progress-weve-made-on-climate-change/
    SCHWEPZ
    SCHWEPZ --- ---
    COP28: Is a tripling of nuclear energy workable? – DW – 12/08/2023
    https://www.dw.com/en/cop28-is-a-tripling-of-nuclear-energy-workable/a-67655770

    (...) Největší unijní ekonomika se podle CDU při výrobě dostupné energie bez jaderných elektráren neobejde. Osmdesátimilionová země se má vrátit do rodiny jaderných energetických mocností.

    Strana při tom odkazuje na novou iniciativu dvacítky zemí – Spojených států, Francie, Británie, Japonska, Švédska či Česka –, které se na klimatické konferenci v Dubaji zavázaly posílit do roku 2050 své nukleární kapacity na trojnásobek, a snížit tím uhlíkové emise.

    Německá CDU se distancuje od Merkelové a chce zpátky jádro | Hrot
    https://www.tydenikhrot.cz/clanek/nemecka-cdu-se-distancuje-od-merkelove-a-chce-jadro?#dop_ab_variant=0&dop_source_zone_name=hpfeed.sznhp.box

    In 2021, nuclear energy made up 13 % of Europe's energy mix and accounted for 25 % of all electricity produced. The debate on nuclear energy in the EU focuses on both opportunities and challenges.
    Nuclear Power in the European Union - World Nuclear Association
    https://world-nuclear.org/information-library/country-profiles/others/european-union.aspx

    R_U_SIRIOUS
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    Vážně se obávám, že se něco změní teprve v okamžiku, kdy jedna vláda za druhou budou nuceny v důsledku klimazměn vyhlašovat výjimečné stavy a rozdávat poukazy na potraviny.

    To už ale budou změny ekosystémů nevratné.
    TUHO
    TUHO --- ---
    Evolving status of global water resources in a changing climate
    https://wmo.int/events/cop28/evolving-status-of-global-water-resources-changing-climate?
    TUHO
    TUHO --- ---
    TUHO: Al Gore
    COP28 is now on the verge of complete failure. The world desperately needs to phase out fossil fuels as quickly as possible, but this obsequious draft reads as if OPEC dictated it word for word. It is even worse than many had feared. It is “Of the Petrostates, By the Petrostates and For the Petrostates.” It is deeply offensive to all who have taken this process seriously. There are 24 hours left to show whose side the world is on: the side that wants to protect humanity’s future by kickstarting the orderly phase out of fossil fuels or the side of the petrostates and the leaders of the oil and gas companies that are fueling the historic climate catastrophe. In order to prevent COP28 from being the most embarrassing and dismal failure in 28 years of international climate negotiations, the final text must include clear language on phasing out fossil fuels. Anything else is a massive step backwards from where the world needs to be to truly address the climate crisis and make sure the 1.5°C goal doesn’t die in Dubai
    TUHO
    TUHO --- ---
    TUHO: EU will walk from climate talks if draft COP28 deal not changed, says Ryan
    TUHO
    TUHO --- ---
    The draft “really doesn’t meet the expectations of this COP in terms of the urgently needed transition to clean sources of energy and the phaseout of fossil fuels,” U.S. climate envoy John Kerry said during a fractious, closed-door meeting late Monday night and early Tuesday, which POLITICO listened to via an unsanctioned feed.
    But representatives of other countries, including a bloc that includes China and India, said they would not accept any language proposing either a “phaseout” or “phase-down” of specific energy sources.

    Negotiations at the Expo City campus on Dubai’s outskirts were expected to continue through the wee hours on Tuesday — the scheduled final day of the summit.

    Earlier that evening, summit president Sultan al-Jaber urged the nearly 200 governments assembled to be flexible and make a deal. The “world is watching” after almost two weeks of discussion, said al-Jaber, who is also the CEO of the United Arab Emirates’ state-owned oil company.

    Protesters stood outside chanting: “This text is bullshit.”

    Former U.S. Vice President Al Gore unloaded on the proposal, saying in a statement that “COP28 is now on the verge of complete failure.”
    “The world desperately needs to phase out fossil fuels as quickly as possible, but this obsequious draft reads as if OPEC dictated it word for word,” Gore said. “It is even worse than many had feared.”

    Greens erupt as oil, gas and coal ‘phaseout’ is dropped from proposed COP28 climate deal - POLITICO
    https://www.politico.com/news/2023/12/11/fossil-fuel-phaseout-dropped-cop28-00131066
    TUHO
    TUHO --- ---
    summary zaveru copu - silnej push od usa, eu a dalsich statu na fossil fuel phase put. staty opec a rusko do toho brutal hazi vidle a snazi se vykoupit moznosti cca

    Reducing emissions theoretically provides for several pathways, of which phase out of fossil fuels is just one. And in this case, “emissions” and “unabated” targets are essentially two forms of a “get out of jail card” to keep their fossil fuel production and use going.
    The difference between an “emissions reduction” pathway and a “fossil fuel phase out” pathway is that major fossil fuel producers believe they can keep pumping oil and gas and digging coal while working on emissions reduction technologies like carbon capture, direct air capture and investing in offsets.
    As we know, despite the time the technology has existed, carbon capture is still not deployable at even a fraction of what would be required. Saudi Arabia, for example, has just one functioning plant.
    It’s catastrophically expensive, potentially costing $1 trillion a year according to researchers at the Oxford Smith School and doesn’t work very well, according to Climate Analytics. And CCS doesn’t even apply to oil use at all and it only has potential application to gas and coal in quite specific circumstances.

    The key COP28 battle: emissions v fossil fuel phase out
    https://unclimatesummit.org/the-key-cop28-battle-emissions-v-fossil-fuel-phase-out/
    TUHO
    TUHO --- ---
    Summary
    COP28 climate change summit heads into final stretch
    New draft deal suggests 'reducing' use of fossil fuels
    Scraps previous call to 'phase out' coal, oil, gas
    EU, US, islands urge phase out; OPEC opposes

    https://www.reuters.com/markets/commodities/new-cop28-draft-deal-stops-short-fossil-fuel-phase-out-2023-12-11/
    JINDRICH
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    TADEAS: hadam že by to mohli byt chcipajici lesní plantáže?
    TADEAS
    TADEAS --- ---
    JINDRICH:

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