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    TUHODezinformace o klimatu // Rage Against the Fossil Machine
    CHOSIE
    CHOSIE --- ---
    DAN_F: Byl jsem na tom před pár měsíci podobně, když jsem toto vše vč. D. Vávry objevil.
    Přijde mi, že si tito lidé dávají pozor, aby se náhodou nedostali před kameru s někým, kdo by jim byl schopen slušně oponovat.

    Pamatuji si, že jsem se kdysi díval na jeho výklad o Green Dealu (a to sám mám nějaké výtky), dle jeho monologu (i když kolem něj bylo více účinkujících) jsem usoudil, že v životě tento sbor dokumentů nečetl - a kdyby kohokoliv z jeho publika napadlo si dát jakékoliv tvrzení do googlu, tak mají během 5 vteřin jasno.
    HRAFNAIN
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    TUHO: jasně, a data z neexistujících satelitů
    DAN_F
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    TUHO: Tohle mi nedělejte. O Turkovi jsem moc nevěděl, tak jsem se rozhodl dovzdělat, a teď nemůžu přestat. A ta CZ rozhovorová podcastová kultura je taky výborná. Zároveň je teda docela překvapivý a děsivý, že těm jeho výrokům málokdo dokáže smysluplně kontrovat, navzdory tomu, že jsou mnohdy úplně dementní :D
    TUHO
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    Senatorka Daniela Kovářová, meli bysme pry CO2 oslavovat

    Daniela Kovářová
    @DanielaKovarova
    "Neexistuje žádná klimatická nouze. Ve skutečnosti se všechna měřítka nepříznivého počasí snižují – dokonce i tornáda a hurikány. Historie jasně ukazuje, že život prosperuje v teplých obdobích. Měli bychom CO2 oslavovat – ne ho démonizovat.“

    Za klimatickou politikou se skrývají data z neexistujících teplotních stanic
    https://www.epochtimes.cz/2024/05/12/za-klimatickou-politikou-se-skryvaji-data-z-neexistujicich-teplotnich-stanic/
    TUHO
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    The new anti-ESG movement: same folks, different face
    The original anti-ESG movement eventually appeared to fizzle. CSRwatch.com stopped being updated in late 2007 and the domain expired in 2008. Shortly after, The Free Enterprise Action Fund was merged into a separate mutual fund that had nothing to do with anti-ESG advocacy.

    The Free Enterprise Education Institute was then acquired by the National Center for Public Policy Research, a much larger right-wing think tank funded by some of the similar players, including ExxonMobil. The NCPPR announced that Milloy and Borelli would remain at the head of the project, which would from then on be called the Free Enterprise Project.

    At the time, Borelli said the merger would “significantly enhance our ability to educate the public on emerging threats to our free enterprise system.” And though it took about 14 years, it appears Borelli was correct.

    The new anti-ESG financial firm backed by Peter Thiel and Bill Ackman, Strive Asset Management, is being led by Justin Danhof, the former executive Vice President of the NCPPR. In a recent interview with the Capitol Account newsletter, Danhof explained his qualifications: “I ran a program called the Free Enterprise Project,” he said. “We were really at the beginning of what you would call any sort of pushback against ESG, woke capital — before it was even a term.”

    It may be more sophisticated today, but the anti-ESG movement is the same as it ever was: a political effort to delay climate action led by fossil fuel industry propagandists. It follows the classic playbook of climate disinformation by trying to “both sides” the idea of climate risk. But Witold Henisz, the director of the Wharton School’s ESG program, put it best: “Climate risk is investment risk. There is no credible other side, only an ideological opposition cynically seeking a wedge issue for upcoming political campaigns.”

    The curious origins of the anti-ESG movement
    https://heated.world/p/the-dirty-origins-of-the-anti-esg
    TUHO
    TUHO --- ---
    Then, in 1996, Rupert Murdoch and Roger Ailes, a former Republican Party strategist, started Fox News with the explicit intention of making it a vehicle for spreading conservative ideas. It quickly became the 24/7 anti-government channel. The right-wing commentators on Fox dispensed misinformation about government programs and spread rumors about government malfeasance. They regularly resorted to malicious slurs against government officials, calling them “idiots,” “Nazis,” “communists,” “fascists,” and “Satanists.” Ever since then, they have played a crucial role in the anti-government movement with their continuous efforts to defame, denigrate, and delegitimize government. It is hard to underestimate how instrumental media outlets like Fox News and conservative talk radio have been in encouraging many Americans to distrust, fear, and even hate government.

    Government is Good - The Anti-Government Campaign
    https://governmentisgood.com/articles.php@aid=9&print=1
    TUHO
    TUHO --- ---
    S. Fred Singer, All-Purpose Science Denier – Debunking Denial
    https://debunkingdenial.com/s-fred-singer-all-purpose-science-denier/
    TUHO
    TUHO --- ---
    How to Escape Reality in 10 Simple Steps
    From »cherry pic data« to »play the anti-progress card«: 10 strategies to manipulate public opinion. Collected in an essay by Marloes de Valk.

    by Marloes de Valk / Netherlands — Mai 10, 2017

    How to Escape Reality in 10 Simple Steps - Akademie Schloss Solitude
    https://www.akademie-solitude.de/de/web-residencies/how-to-escape-reality-in-10-simple-steps/
    CHOSIE
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    TUHO: Všichni zde přispívající mají můj velký obdiv, že jsou schopni toto sledovat, já to vždy po pár minutách nezvládnu, populismus v akci.
    TUHO
    TUHO --- ---
    TUHO: According to the World Bank, oil and gas industries took in $3bn-a-day inflation-adjusted profits for the last 50 years (Carrington 2022). As one route to protect these profits, it was revealed that Saudi state-owned petroleum company Saudi Aramco financed “almost 500 studies over the past five years, including research aimed at keeping gasoline cars competitive or casting doubt on electric vehicles” (Tabuchi 2022)
    TUHO
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    NYRLEM: TUHO: plus jeste dalsi literatura k tomuhle problemu je tady:

    TUHO: TUHO:
    TUHO
    TUHO --- ---
    Climate change countermovements and adaptive strategies: insights from Heartland Institute annual conferences a decade apart | Climatic Change
    https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10584-023-03655-5
    TUHO
    TUHO --- ---
    Filip Turek 3. díl: Zastánci Green Dealu dnes vedou otevřený boj, jsou s námi ve válce
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-FQdKAJC8g
    TUHO
    TUHO --- ---
    Filip Turek 3. díl: Zastánci Green Dealu dnes vedou otevřený boj, jsou s námi ve válce - Rádio Universum
    https://www.radiouniversum.cz/turek-filip-3d-zastanci-green-dealu-dnes-vedou-otevreny-boj-jsou-s-nami-ve-valce/
    TUHO
    TUHO --- ---
    How well have climate models predicted global warming?
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBwic8UcPGI
    TUHO
    TUHO --- ---
    NYRLEM:
    TUHO: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBwic8UcPGI

    Tady detailnejs Carbon Brief analyza modely vs observation v dlouhodobejsim horizontu .)

    Analysis: How well have climate models projected global warming? - Carbon Brief
    https://www.carbonbrief.org/analysis-how-well-have-climate-models-projected-global-warming/
    TUHO
    TUHO --- ---
    NYRLEM: Happer pouziva data ze satelitu, ktery dlouhodobe trpej celou radou zkresleni - problem s kalibraci senzoru, orbital driftu, diurnal korekce, ale taky hlavne ty satelity dost obtizne snimaj kus atmosfery (resp mikrovlny zareni molekul kysliku tusim) a nejsou schopny snimat naprimo data z troposfery a bejvaj kontaminovany datama ze stratosfery (ktera se ochlazuje vlivem sklenikovyho efektu), nektery jevy se tam dostavaj dost se zpozdenim a zdeformaovanym (El Nino).

    Je to celkem zajimava historie, nicmene odhaleny chyby v procesovani satelitnich dat to posunuly o dost bliz modelum, plus modely jsou v dobrym souladu s pozemnima stanicema.
    SEJDA
    SEJDA --- ---
    NYRLEM: protoze tady porovnavas globalni prumernou teplotu s nejakym dobrym vyberem, aby ti vysla anonalie 0.2 a ne 1.0
    A projistotu zariznes data v 2015, aby se to nahodou neukazalo jenom zpozdene o 20 let ;)
    NYRLEM
    NYRLEM --- ---
    NYRLEM
    NYRLEM --- ---
    TUHO: maji to celkem podlozene, neda se rict, ze by nebyli z oboru, proc je to hoax? Napr. Tohle vypada jako validni..
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