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    GORGworld conspiracy // 911 // free world order! ... part 5 ::
    GORG
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    Russian media campaign dismisses Bucha deaths as fakes - Japan Today
    https://japantoday.com/category/world/russian-media-campaign-dismisses-bucha-deaths-as-fakes

    Several of the same accounts sought to discredit claims that Russian troops carried out the killings by pointing to a video of Bucha Mayor Anatoliy Fedoruk, taken March 31, in which he talked about the suburb being freed from Russian occupation.

    “He confirms that Russian troops have left Bucha. No mentioning of dead bodies in the streets,” top Russian official Mikhail Ulyanov tweeted Monday.

    But Fedoruk had publicly commented on the violence before the Russian troops left in an interview with Italian news agency Adnkronos on March 28, where he accused them of killings and rapes in Bucha.

    In an AP interview March 7, Fedoruk talked about dead bodies piling up in Bucha: “We can’t even gather up the bodies because the shelling from heavy weapons doesn’t stop day or night. Dogs are pulling apart the bodies on the city streets. It’s a nightmare.”

    Satellite images by Maxar Technologies while Russian troops occupied Bucha on March 18 and 19 back up Fedoruk’s account of bodies in the streets, showing at least five bodies on one road.

    Guerra Ucraina, sindaco Bucha: "Zona occupata da Russia, viviamo orrori da II guerra mondiale" - Adnkronos.com
    https://www.adnkronos.com/guerra-ucraina-sindaco-di-bucha-zona-occupata-dai-russi-viviamo-orrori-da-ii-guerra-mondiale_1OWz5bnrdb780NZAwTPiyj

    Of the nearly 50 thousand residents who lived in Bucha before the conflict, now there are 5-6 thousand left, "forced - says Fedoruk from the city under attack - to hide in cellars, to live without internet connection, without electricity and without gas".

    To this is added "a plan of terror against the civilian population: here in Bucha we see all the horrors we have heard of as crimes committed by the Nazis during World War II. It is difficult to believe that such a thing could happen in the 21st century. ", observes the mayor, referring to brutal killings of civilians, rape and looting of homes by Russian soldiers, who" have no mercy even for the elderly, do not allow doctors to help the wounded and relatives to recover the bodies of their loved ones dead. Some corpses have been there since the beginning of the occupation, the hungry dogs are eating them. The Russians must have an international mission enter the temporarily occupied territories, so that the contempt for the dead stops ".
    GORG
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    Bucha Mayor speech celebrating Russia leaving but NO MENTION of "mountains of corpses"
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgRjeaXjiSQ


    Translation: Dear Bucha community, March 31st will go down in the history of our settlement, our entire community as a day of liberation from the Russian orcs, from the Russian occupiers, by our armed forces of Ukraine. So today I say that this day is a happy one. A happy one and a great victory of our armed forces in the Kiev region.
    And we will definitely wait and do everything to achieve a great victory in the whole of Ukraine. Glory to our armed forces of Ukraine, glory to Ukraine, glory to every Ukrainian, no matter in which corner of Ukraine they are now.
    GORG
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    Ukraine underplays role of far right in conflict - BBC News
    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-30414955

    ...

    But Ukrainian officials and many in the media err to the other extreme. They claim that Ukrainian politics are completely fascist-free. This, too, is plain wrong.

    As a result, the question of the presence of the far-right in Ukraine remains a highly sensitive issue, one which top officials and the media shy away from. No-one wants to provide fuel to the Russian propaganda machine.

    ...

    The Azov battalion seems to enjoy the support of several top officials
    Run by the extremist Patriot of Ukraine organisation, which considers Jews and other minorities "sub-human" and calls for a white, Christian crusade against them, it sports three Nazi symbols on its insignia: a modified Wolf's Hook, a black sun (or "Hakensonne") and the title Black Corps, which was used by the Waffen SS.

    Azov is just one of more than 50 volunteer groups fighting in the east, the vast majority of which are not extremist, yet it seems to enjoy special backing from some top officials:

    Interior Minister Arsen Avakov and his deputy Anton Gerashchenko actively supported the parliament candidacy of Andriy Biletsky, the Azov and Patriot of Ukraine commander
    Vadim Troyan, another top Azov official and Patriot of Ukraine member, was recently named police chief for the Kiev region
    Mr Korotkykh is also an Azov member
    Ukraine's media have been noticeably silent on this subject.

    Recently, prominent newspaper and online publication Left Bank published an extensive interview with Mr Troyan, in which the journalists asked no questions at all about his neo-Nazi past or political views.

    And after the Unian news agency reported the presidential ceremony under the headline, "Poroshenko awarded Belarusian neo-Nazi with Ukrainian passport", it was soon replaced with an article that air-brushed out the accusations of extremism.

    Unian's editors have declined to comment on the two pieces.

    There are significant risks to this silence. Experts say the Azov Battalion, which has been widely reported on in the West, has damaged Ukraine's image and bolsters Russia's information campaign.

    And although Ukraine is emphatically not run by fascists, far-right extremists seem to be making inroads by other means, as in the country's police department.

    Ukraine's public is grossly under-informed about this. The question is, why doesn't anyone want to tell them?
    ADM
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    OMNIHASH: ale jdi ty brepto, ze je elektrina na ukrajine z atomovek, vubec nesouvisi s moznosti vyrazeni/poskozeni rozvodne site (a obsluha atomovek v takove situaci vi naprosto presne, co ma delat). vyradit transformatorove stanice pripadne likvidovat primo vedeni neni zadna raketova veda:

    Similarly, the BLU-114/B "Soft-Bomb" graphite bomb was used by NATO against Serbia in May 1999, disabling 70% of that country's power grid. After initial success in disabling Serbian electric power systems, the electric supply was restored in less than 24 hours. The BLU-114/B was again used a few days later to counter Serbian efforts to restore damage caused by the initial attack. In the later stage of Operation Allied Force, NATO's air forces used conventional bombs and rockets to target power highlines and transformer stations. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graphite_bomb
    ARRAKIS
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    NATO will deploy a permanent full-scale force on its border with Russia, its chief says | Businessinsider
    https://www.businessinsider.co.za/nato-deploy-military-force-defend-borders-against-russia-stoltenberg-2022-4

    zaujala slovicka 'reset' a 'new normal'.
    subliminal decoder pls :)
    OMNIHASH
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    GORG: páč pět dní po začátku Rusové ještě věřili, že vyhrajou rychle a relativně bezbolestně. Jak se měnila situace, začali tu infrastrukturu ničit jako všechno ostatní. Většina elektřiny na Ukrajině je z atomovek, ty se halt sundavaj hůř, pokud nechceš v přilehlým okolí hrát akorát Stalkera. Pokud to chceš udělat bezpečně, musíš tam fyzicky přijít, udělat odstávku a zajistit chlazení do konce války. Vzhledem k tomu, jak to vypadalo v Černobylu, tak na to asi lidi nejsou.

    Energy in Ukraine - Wikipedia
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Energy_in_Ukraine

    Ukraine Energy Company C.E.O. Tries to Keep Lights On During War - The New York Times
    https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/18/business/economy/ukraine-energy-company-russia-war.html
    GORG
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    https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/02/28/internet-war-cyber-russia-ukraine/

    “I would have thought that by now Russia would have disabled a lot more infrastructure around communications, power and water,” Cowan said. “If Russia were attacking the U.S., there would be more cyber damage.”

    The absence of major disruptions predicted by cyberwar doctrine has allowed Ukraine’s President Volodymyr Zelensky to deliver propaganda coups with little more than a smartphone and a data link. Images of civilian casualties, the brutal shelling of cities and also some Russian losses have undermined that nation’s claims of a limited and humane “special military operation.” A viral audio clip of Ukrainian soldiers on a tiny island telling a Russian warship to “go f--- yourself” has become a defining moment of national resistance.

    “It’s become a global participatory thing. Everybody thinks they’re part of it,” said Doug Madory, director of Internet analysis for Kentik, which tracks global data flows. “It would be a lot harder to do all that if there was a blackout.”

    ..

    An invading army might be expected to quickly cut backbone cables or switch them off through hacks, said Madory, a former Air Force communications engineering officer.

    But neither has happened. And Madory isn’t sure why.

    “Is it following the playbook? I don’t know if we have the right playbook,” Madory said. “So far the Internet is still up.”

    ...

    He and other experts point to several possible explanations, starting with the possibility that the Russians thought Ukraine would fall so quickly that it wasn’t necessary to damage systems they would want operational once an occupation began. Disabled telecommunication systems — or ones that are bombed — can require costly, time-consuming repairs.

    ..

    It’s also possible that the Russians themselves needed a functioning telecommunications system, including high-speed data links, for their own communications. Images from Ukraine have shown Russian soldiers appearing to use smartphones. Modern militaries typically have sophisticated radios for battlefield communications, but glitches might have forced reliance on Internet-based systems instead.

    // nebo The Washington post uz je proklemelsky platek? skutecne si vymyslim pseudotema?
    GORG
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    https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/02/28/internet-war-cyber-russia-ukraine/

    But while Russia’s invasion of Ukraine has spawned all manner of cyberattacks and defenses, few are playing out the way the experts thought they would.

    As of Monday, five days after tanks moved into Ukraine, the Internet and other key Ukrainian infrastructure were still functioning, the outgunned Ukrainian military was still coordinating effectively and Russia’s vaunted disinformation capabilities were failing to persuade Ukrainians that resistance is futile.

    “We imagined this orchestrated unleashing of violence in cyberspace, this ballet of attacks striking Ukraine in waves, and instead of that we have a brawl. And not even a very consequential brawl, just yet,” said Jason Healey, a former White House staffer for infrastructure protection and intelligence officer who’s now a research scholar on cyber conflict at Columbia University.

    A vastly larger, more powerful military — one especially feared for its cyber-military prowess — has allowed Ukrainians almost unfettered access to the Internet. This has helped them get weapons to citizens and harness social media to rally global political support through direct, emotional appeals backed by stirring visuals.

    “It’s certainly not what anyone predicted,” said Dmitri Alperovitch, a longtime cybersecurity executive and U.S. government adviser who heads Silverado Policy Accelerator.



    Could Russia shut down the internet in Ukraine? | Ukraine | The Guardian
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/mar/01/could-russia-shut-down-the-internet-in-ukraine

    Analysis: On a national level, web access has so far been largely unaffected by the invasion, and supports daily life

    // panove zkuste nekdy pripustit, ze se o vecech da diskutovat. treba to neni pravda, ze by se nepokouseli Rusaci tam je odriznout od elektriky a internetu.. treba jedu nejake nesmysly, ale tohle je proste normalni validni tema... a relevantni k tomu jsou zalezitosti koordinovane snahy vyradit Ukrajinu z velke casti od proudu i internetu.. obzvlast pokud tam jedem pachat valecne zlociny, bych urcite vyradil internet.
    ja i koukal na nejaky streamy, kde se bavili s lidma z Kyjeva.. ta clanek popisuje, jak jim jede furt internet. na CNN Prima popisujou, ze jim jdou mobilni site, takze i pres telefon jsou v kontaktu do CR.
    a misto konstruktivni debaty zas ad hominem mne snazici se tady tvrdit, ze tam internet nefungoval ani elektrika netece

    o cem se mluvili bylo akorat vybombeni toho televizniho vysilace..

    cely roky jsme tu presvedcovani o vsemocnosti ruskych hackeru.. a ze v minulych letech zpusobili vypadky proudu.. a ted jsou jakoze neschopni?

    nekonzistence:

    Despite years of preparation, Ukraine’s electric grid still an easy target for Russian hackers - POLITICO
    https://www.politico.com/news/2022/02/19/despite-years-of-preparation-ukraines-electric-grid-still-far-from-ready-for-russian-hackers-00010373

    Portions of Ukraine’s electric system went dark following two Russian cyberattacks in recent years. Efforts to strengthen the grid in the years since likely won’t be enough to fend off Russian hackers.

    Instead, the Ukrainian power supply remains vulnerable to a major hacking assault that could inflict extended blackouts in much of the country as part of an armed invasion by Moscow, cybersecurity experts say.

    Ukraine experienced smaller-scale cyberattacks linked to Russia in 2015 and 2016 including one that turned off the lights for almost a quarter-million Ukrainians     — an assault that also raised alarm bells in countries like the U.S. about the security of their own electric grids.

    “If Russia wants to take down the Ukrainian electric system, I have full confidence that they can, and the Ukrainian playbook in many ways is in a place where prevention’s not going to happen,” Robert M. Lee, CEO and co-founder of cybersecurity group Dragos, said in an interview. He argued corruption and economic barriers in Ukraine have gotten in the way of hardening the electric grid. The Ukrainian Embassy in Washington, D.C., did not respond to a request for comment.
    GORG
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    OMNIHASH: ja o voze,...
    dolozil jsem tu myslenku zapadnimi zdroji. ze to nejsou jen moje slova. nejaky tweet, ze v nekde nejde proud hajpujici starlink po tydnech valky, ignoruje napsany text.
    OMNIHASH
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    Gorgovo divení se nad invalidním předpokladem, díl miliontý první

    https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1512108308907372553
    GORG
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    proste tvrzeni, ze s ohromnou armadou zdecimovali mraky obytnych domu, ale nebyli schopni poskodit par sloupu elektrickeho vedeni?

    jak jsem linkoval, vrtalo to hlavou i tem, ktery zrovna moc k sympatiim k Rusku obvinovat nemuzeme.
    GORG
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    HONZA09: no "nevi, co delaji" je narativ, ktery slysime od zacatku v nasich mediich, takze bych to bral s rezervou malujici je jako bridily. celkem bezne asi ve valecnem zpravodajstvi pro udrzeni moralky

    ja se teda neodvazuju hodnotit ze sve pozice, jak moc se tam komu dari

    a jak uz tu zaznelo .. treba ten narativ "nepodarilo dobyt Kyjev".. vychazi z predpokladu, ze cilem bylo vojensky obsadit Ukrajinu. mozna bylo, ale to je to, co tvrdi Zapad... taky dobry uvazit.
    HONZA09
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    To máš jak s těma tankama, co jsme jim tam poslali. Nebo tím protiraketovým systemem od Slováků. Pokaždé tvrdili, jak tohle vyzbrojování Ukrajinců nedopustí. No a reálně s tím neudělali vůbec nic.
    HONZA09
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    GORG: Celá ta jejich invaze je podělaná od úplného začátku. Tvrdím, že vůbec neví, co dělaj a hlavně co maj dělat. Je to epic fail na všech levelech od nejnižších vojínů až po Putina, kterýmu se to celý sype pod rukama. Trochu líp jim to jde akorát na Donbase a tam třeba Mariupol od vody a elektřiny odstřihli. Takže když můžou, tak to udělaj. Akorát oni spíš nemůžou, protože jsou úplně neschopný. Jediný co jim jde je loupit, vraždit a znásilňovat bezbranný civilisty a nebo je odstřelovat raketama z bezpečný vzdálenosti. Ale jakmile se proti nim postaví vyzbrojenej a organizovanej odpor, tak je sfoukne jako svíčku.
    GORG
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    HONZA09: Ze nebyli schopni dobyt elektrarnu opravdu tu takhle tvrdis? :)

    mluvim o tomhle:

    Krym je bez elektrické energie, stožáry vedení byly odpáleny
    https://oenergetice.cz/zahranicni/krym-je-bez-elektricke-energie-stozary-vedeni-byly-odpaleny

    Krym se v neděli ocitl bez dodávky elektrické energie z Ukrajiny poté, co byly stožáry elektrického vedení přes noc odpáleny. V zemi byl vyhlášen nouzový stav.

    Člen ruského senátu tento krok popsal jako „teroristický čin“ a naznačil, že ho mají na svědomí ukrajinští nacionalisté.

    skutečně ty nepotřebuješ útočit na elekrárnu. však si vzpomeň, jak stačí silnější vítr a popadají nějaký stromy ne vedení a už máš v nějaké oblasti výpadek. kolikrát jsme rádi, že to funguje, i pokud se to nikdo nesnaží shodit.
    útok na elektrárnu ani toho moc nutně neřeší, i když opravit přímo elektrárnu se samozřejmě dá pak hůř než "jen" vedení.ale útokem na vedení to odstříhneš úplně.

    nebo jak v mém článku řeší taky kybernetický útok. každopádně už z jara na začátku invaze strategicky žejo.
    HONZA09
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    GORG: No tak vidíš. Vždyť to tam máš napsaný.

    Truhly unable to take it out.
    GORG
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    HONZA09: mluvim o utoku na infrastrukturu.. oddtrizeni cele ukrajiny od elektriny a mobilni site

    A to se nedela utokem na elektrarnu ne? Elektrina se rozvadi kabely pres rozvodni site, takze je narusis a pokud mozna hned na zacatku valky. Samozrejme pak ale dane zemi trva o dost dyl se zpet postavit na nohy se znicenou infrastrukturou

    Nebo jak tu pisou soudruzi z Time treba. Ti se nad tim taky podivuji:

    Why Russia Hasn't Launched Major Cyber Attacks | Time
    https://time.com/6153902/russia-major-cyber-attacks-invasion-ukraine/

    For instance, one explanation for why Russia left Ukrainian electricity distribution and communication networks intact was that Putin wanted the rest of the world to see Russia’s swift, decisive victory in Ukraine via a steady stream of images and videos that might have been hampered by such an attack. But as it becomes increasingly clear that no swift, decisive victory is forthcoming, it makes less sense that Russia would continue to leave that infrastructure untouched unless they were truly unable to take it out.

    // kdyz meli v CNN Prima spoty z UA s tou Stomatovou , taky se ji ptali na funkcnost mobilnich siti a internetu a ta rika, ze ty funguji , coz opet sedi na jiz napsane

    Nebo o tom se taky uz nesmi mluvit?
    KAJJAK
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    o to vic byli ukrajinci namotivovani bojovat, jelikoz se vedelo, ze tohle prijde...
    KAJJAK
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    GORG:

    ale to prece neni nic noveho, ze Rusi ve valkach takhle vrazdi civilisty, to zatim delali ve vsech valkach kde byli, aby zabranili partyzanske valce a pomoci civilistu armade soupere... Ukrajinsti generalove to moc dobre vedi, jelikoz oni sami mnoha takovym jednotkam v sovetske armade veleli a tyto rozkazy sami plnili...
    HONZA09
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    GORG: A útok na elektrárnu v Zaporoží byl co? Nebo třeba tohle...

    Nemáme vodu a elektřinu. Rusové nás ničí, volá starosta Mariupolu o pomoc - iDNES.cz
    https://www.idnes.cz/zpravy/zahranicni/ukrajina-rusko-valka-invaze-boje-mariupol-humanitarni-voda.A220304_170523_zahranicni_jhr

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