Sodium baterie jsou aktualne drazsi nez Lithové ale to se brzo zmeni, za pár let bychom mohli vybírat ze Sodium, LFP a NMC. S tím že NMC bude high end a postupně pujde z main streamu pryč. Otazka tedy jak dlouho to bude trvat, primarně v EU kde jeste legacy nemájí v autech ani LFP.

Experts: sodium-ion batteries to enter large-scale applications by 2026 as costs fall
https://carnewschina.com/2025/09/28/experts-sodium-ion-batteries-to-enter-large-scale-applications-by-2026-as-costs-fall/

W_NOICE78: to mi přijde ale jako docela velký fail, jestli to fakt nedokáže nabíjet - ono třeba Audi Q6 etron (a další z platformy PPE) taky nemají DC/DC měnič, ale když auto zjistí, že se s nabíječkou na 800V nedohodne, tak se umí tvářit jako 2 paralelně zapojené 400V baterky a dobíjet...

Elektromobily s 800V architekturou, které umí simulovat 400V systém rozdělením baterie na dvě paralelně zapojené 400V části, jsou zatím reprezentovány především Audi Q6 e-tron (platforma PPE). Tato technologie, označovaná jako "bank charging", umožňuje kompatibilitu se staršími 400V nabíječkami bez nutnosti externího měniče napětí.

Audi also moves to splitting their 800V into two 400V batteries for 400V… | Marius Loch
https://www.linkedin.com/posts/marius-loch-a245647a_audi-also-moves-to-splitting-their-800v-into-activity-7180844541439008770-P7Rv

Throughout 2024, ADAC’s Yellow Angels responded to 3.6 million breakdowns, with the total number of breakdowns increasing by 97 per cent, and the number of EV breakdowns increasing by 46 per cent due to the growing number of EVs on German roads.

When comparing EVs to ICE vehicles, ADAC limits its comparisons to vehicles of the same age, with 2024’s numbers providing greater confirmation.Limiting its sample size to vehicles aged between two to four years old, ADAC found that combustion engines suffered two and a half times as many breakdowns as electric cars – working out to 9.4 ICE breakdowns per 1,000 vehicles, and 3.8 EV breakdowns per 1,000 vehicles.

ADAC’s analysis looked at a total of 159 different car models, finding that the Tesla Model 3 demonstrated the best performance among EVs two years old, with 0.5 breakdowns per 1,000 vehicles.

The most susceptible EV to breakdowns was the Hyundai Ioniq 5, with 22.4 breakdowns per 1,000 vehicles, with its problems blamed on its integrated charging control unit (ICCU).

The analysis also found that defective starter batteries were a common cause of breakdowns between both EVs and ICE vehicles, accounting for 44.9 per cent of all breakdowns attended by ADAC in 2024. Divided between engine type, defective 12V starter batteries were the cause of 50.5 per cent of EV breakdowns, but only 44.6 per cent of ICE vehicles.

What’s cheaper to maintain? Battery, motor, or transmission replacement costs?


The most expensive batteries per kWh are found in hybrids, of any type. On average, the total kWh cost for hybrids is 40% higher than that of EV battery systems.
The most expensive complete drivetrain systems, on average, are hybrids, followed by ICE vehicles, while EV systems are the cheapest. (This refers to the average cost!)
The worst parts procurement systems, right-to-repair access, and support (backend/frontend) are from: Xpeng, MG, BYD, Stellantis, Honda, Nissan, Volvo, Rivian, Lucid, Mazda, Hyundai, Kia.

MG and BYD have not yet activated their RMI systems.

Lucid and Rivian have no RMI systems at all.

Hyundai does not issue invoices, leaving accounting departments with nothing to process.

Kia has not yet approved RMI accounts and discriminates against Croatian and Slovenian owners by blocking access to Kia Connect.

Warranties you cannot rely on if you purchase vehicles from: Stellantis, Mercedes, Kia, Hyundai.

Cheapest components:

Tesla has the lowest kWh cost.

VW has the cheapest OBC.

Tesla has the cheapest electric motors.

Tesla also has the best right-to-repair (RMI) system.

Tesla and BMW offer the best powertrain value and cheapest powertrain parts.

Porsche has the most expensive parts globally.

Best RMI systems (critical for sustainability and cost-effectiveness): Tesla, BMW, Mercedes, VAG, Ford, Toyota.
Worst systems: Stellantis, Kia, Hyundai, Xpeng, MG, BYD.
The most expensive systems (unsustainable for servicing): BMW, Xpeng, BYD—this significantly increases the total cost of vehicle ownership and reduces ROI.
Lucid, Rivian, and others have no support systems, meaning these vehicles should be avoided as they could become unusable and not servicable at any moment.

Chinese brands have proven completely unprepared for European expansion and lack scalable systems for corporate and aftermarket needs. Some EU representatives of these brands are already considering withdrawal due to non-functional EPC catalogs and even worse support.

Mythbusting EV, ICE and Hybrid powertrain price Comparison – EV Clinic
https://evclinic.eu/2025/01/19/ultimate-ev-ice-and-hybrid-comparison/
data sheet
EV vs ICE vs HEV by EV CLINIC - Tabulky Google
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/10_jF89qI2njlzqcPw4BNmeW-F2AzMc9yR5PPxvmIdnU/edit

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@leixing77
Boom!
Stellantis and CATL have reached an agreement to invest 4.1 Billion Euros in a 50:50 joint venture in Spain to produce LFP batteries with a capacity of 50 GWh.
SOP expected by end of 2026. Transaction to be completed within 2025.
Salt on the wound for Northvolt!
#batteries #LFP

Stellantis and CATL to Invest Up to €4.1 Billion in Joint Venture for Large-Scale LFP Battery Plant in Spain | Corporate Communications | Stellantis
https://www.media.stellantis.com/em-en/corporate-communications/press/stellantis-and-catl-to-invest-up-to-4-1-billion-in-joint-venture-for-large-scale-lfp-battery-plant-in-spain

to vypada ze rok 2026 bude ve znameni 6C baterií

Chery to launch solid-state battery in 2026 and launches ultra-fast charging 6C batteries now
https://carnewschina.com/2024/10/18/chery-to-launch-solid-state-battery-in-2026-and-launches-ultra-fast-charging-6c-batteries-now/#comments

Hyundai Motor is developing ultra-high-capacity LFP batteries to power upcoming low-cost Hyundai and Kia BEVs.
Hyundai aims to maximize cell capacity, planning to develop LFP batteries with an energy density of around 300 Wh/kg by 2025.

Hyundai to develop industry-leading 300Wh/kg LFP EV batteries
https://electrek.co/2024/10/14/hyundai-develop-industry-leading-300wh-kg-lfp-ev-batteries/

tip na investici?

Lithium Sulfur Batteries Are Half the Weight, 40% Cheaper & Coming in 2027 - The Battery Show 2024
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Gxrq9dxDq0&ab_channel=AutolineNetwork

Zhruba ve zkratce co se solid-state tyce.

Navigating the Future: A Guide to Solid State Batteries for Electric Cars | Midtronics
https://www.midtronics.com/blog/guide-solid-state-batteries-evs/

CRAZY_IVAN: pardon, samozřejmě MY

Tesla Giga Berlin starting production of Model Y with BYD batteries: report
https://www.teslarati.com/tesla-giga-berlin-starting-production-of-model-y-with-byd-batteries-claims-report/

Některý M3 je má taky, ale je to import

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75kWh Tesla Model 3 full battery pack long range
https://evshop.eu/en/batteries/292-tesla-model-3-full-battery-pack-75kwh-long-range.html