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    TUHOKlimaticka zmena / Thank you so much for ruining my day


    "Given the sheer enormity of climate change, it’s okay to be depressed, to grieve. But please, don’t stay there too long. Join me in pure, unadulterated, righteous anger."


    "I don’t want your hope. I don’t want you to be hopeful. I want you to panic. I want you to feel the fear I feel every day. And then I want you to act. Once you start to act, the hope is everywhere."

    "Our best scientists tell us insistently that a calamity is unfolding, that the life-support systems of the Earth are being damaged in ways that threaten our survival. Yet in the face of these facts we carry on as usual."

    “We’ve got to stop burning fossil fuels. So many aspects of life depend on fossil fuels, except for music and love and education and happiness. These things, which hardly use fossil fuels, are what we must focus on.”

    A nejde o to, že na to nemáme dostatečné technologie, ty by na řešení použít šly, ale chybí nám vůle a představivost je využít. Zůstáváme při zemi, přemýšlíme až moc rezervovaně. Technologický pokrok to sám o sobě nevyřeší. Problém jsme my, ne technologické nástroje.

    Rostouci hladiny oceanu, zmena atmosferickeho proudeni, zmeny v distribuci srazek a sucha. Zmeny karbonoveho, fosforoveho a dusikoveho cyklu, okyselovani oceanu. Jake jsou bezpecnostni rizika a jake potencialni klady dramatickych zmen fungovani zemskeho systemu?
    Ale take jak funguji masove dezinformacni kampane ropneho prumyslu a boj o verejne mineni na prahu noveho klimatickeho rezimu post-holocenu.
    rozbalit záhlaví
    TADEAS
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    TADEAS
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    biosfericka valka, politika jidla.

    pro mestske populace hure srozumitelne. fskutecnosti jde o kontrolu ekosystemu (kym, pro koho, jakymi praktikami?).

    bohuzel, vege-lidi tu sedaj na lep ty hruby korporatni masinerii :)


    Frederic Leroy
    https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1361013338868711434.html

    Most have heard of @wef's 2021 #TheGreatReset or its earlier 2012 #GreatTransformation. Many are aware of #EATLancet's #GreatFoodTransformation. Few know #Tellus' #GreatTransition or #WBGU's #GreatTransformation. The similarities of the names aren't coincidental. All go back to an interrelated network of organizations, many of which were shaped by Maurice Strong in the '70-'90s. Strong was an oil businessman, New Ager, Rockefeller asset & UN protagonist. #TheGreatReset & its dietary part #TheGreatFoodTransformation are part of his legacy.

    Today, the post-Strong Great Transition/Transformation network is being mobilized for the UN #FoodSystems Summit. The aim: to change dietary policies worldwide. In addition, "vegan tech" (lab-grown foods) has joined the club, $$$-fueled by #SiliconValley investors (& others). Today, the post-Strong Great Transition/Transformation network is being mobilized for the UN #FoodSystems Summit. The aim: to change dietary policies worldwide. In addition, "vegan tech" (lab-grown foods) has joined the club, $$$-fueled by #SiliconValley investors (& others). The policies coming from this Summit likely will be *highly* interventionist, as the #GreatFoodTransformation is an authoritarian one.



    It has come to the following: a strategic partnership between the @UN and the transnational corporate elites of Davos' @wef. Maurice Strong would have loved it! What could go wrong? The "Big Plan for a Small Planet" (& its zillion versions of public-private partnerships) is ready to take off in 2021.

    ...

    Presenting JUNK FOOD as a way to save the planet in the face of a massive fossil fuel challenge, & the fact that it is presented as such by academics, journalists, & even the UN, is going to be seen as one of the biggest absurdities of the early 21st century
    SHEFIK
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    dovolim si jednu citaci. fear is the power of the dark side, fear leads to hate, hate leads to suffering .)

    vztek totiz mozna posune tebe a uvede te do akce, ale skrze obvinovani "tech ostatnich", kteri se budou nevyhnutelne branit. a ty sam klimatickej problem nevyresis, protoze "oni" jsou take soucasti problemu, resp. i jeho reseni
    SHEFIK
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    DNF: tohle je nezavisle na "eco". je to obecne lidske chovani, tahle studie nic noveho do psychologie, nebo teorie reseni problemu neprinasi

    pokud prijmeme premisu, ze vztek nam pomuze resit problemy, tak je sice budeme resit, ale efektivitou tlup na urovni lovcu-sberacu.

    je to suboptimalni reseni problemu. a nejde o to, jestli se to vyhroti do riotu nebo ne. kdyz od nekoho neco chces (zapojit vsechny lidi k reseni problemu), pokud nejsi diktator a zijes v demokratickych hodnotach, tak se vztekem moc posouvat nebudes.

    tohle je totiz taky vedecky overeny. proto vznikl obor diplomacie, kde vztek nema misto
    DNF
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    SHEFIK: Nehledate v tom nejak moc vyznamu? Coz by svedcilo spis o emocnim chapani nez technickem.

    O cem to mluvi je, ze pokud mas eko-vztek, je vetsi pravdepodobnost, ze s tim neco pujdes udelat, at individualne, nebo ve skupine. Zaroven to zlepsi tvoje spatne pocity. Oproti tomu jine eko-rozpolozeni maji tendenci opacnou. To rikaji vedci. Eko-vztek je spoustec vlastniho zapojeni, ze akce budou rioty tam nikde napsano neni, ale asi to malokdo cetl, jako obvykle :)

    Akce podle nich znamena i posunuti vlastniho chovani smerem k eko-uvedomelemu chovani. Oh, jak se ti ekoteroriste nechavaji unaset emocemi!

    Navic to ukazuje, ze vsechno to "to je spatnej pristup, lidi tim akorat nastvou" mozna neni zas tak marna stretegie, naopak, koho se podari eko-nastvat, je z toho jednou nohou venku!
    TADEAS
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    Blair Fix
    https://twitter.com/blair_fix/status/1361121548493594628/photo/1

    I've made thousands of charts, but this remains one of my favorites: the labor time to construct a power plant scales tightly with plant capacity.

    SHEFIK
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    YMLADRIS: ale to ne. jednak nejde je nemit a jednak je spatne je potlacovat. ale jedna vec je nechat se jimi unaset a druha bejt si jich vedom, vyuzivat je ve svuj prospech, ale nenechavat je prevladnout na ukor usudku

    je to tu asi offtopic, ale proc sem regoval bylo, ze to z tech novych studii co tadeas a tuho linkovali, ze nejlepsim resenim klimatickyho problemu je vztek. pokud bych si tohle dal opravdu do rovnice a prijmul do dusledku "reseni = vztek", pak se z kazdyho druhyho stane agresor a budeme tu mit klimatickej riot. kterej samozrejme problem nevyresi, nadela tech problemu daleko vic, vcetne polarizace spolecnosti, a to je to nejvic vzdaleny reseni, co muze bejt. protoze na zachranu klima je potreba idealne kazdyho cloveka, ne pulku lidstva odradit.

    nejsem si jistej, jestli se mi to dari spravne vysvetlit, ale pokud znam sam sebe, vim jaky flow emoci mam, vim take (mam zkusenosti z minulosti, pokud mi neni 15), jak ho uridit a pak je jedno jestli jde o klima nebo jiny existencionalni problem. kdyz to generalizuju - bud muzu prekonavat svuj strach agresi (cimz ho nikdy neprekonem, jen prekryju), nebo zpocatku pujdu mene prijemnou akceptaci, cimz se sice dostavam na hranu uzkosti, nicmene racionalizaci muzu uridit konstruktivni cestu k reseni.

    muzu to jeste rict i bussinesove :) mam nejaky problem. vezmu metodiku Lean six sigma, na optimalizaci lidskych procesu a postupuju tak, abych ho vyresil. nastavim si konkretni cil a rozdelim si ho na dilci, realizovatelne v urcitem case, aby me nesemlela uzkost jeho nedosazitelnosti. pak se muzu divat na to, jestli sem dosah milniku nebo ne a vidim za sebou progress. ta emoce zustava maximalne pri uvedomneni problemu, dal uz ne, protoze
    vim, ze delam maximum co je v mych moznostech abych cile dosahl.
    YMLADRIS
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    SHEFIK: sometimes in my tears i drown but I never let it get me down
    So when negativity surrounds I know some day it'll all turn around

    ted nejak to bude dva roky co jsem pochopila klima. ty to pises, jako by si clovek mohl vybrat jestli emoce bude mit, nebo ne :)
    SEJDA
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    Elon Musk spolu s X-Prize vypsali odmenu 100 mil. USD tomu, kdo jako prvni zachyti 1 t uhliku za den (do roku 2025) s tim, ze se jeho reseni bude dat ekonomicky smysluplne rozsirit na zachycovani 1 Gt uhliku za rok (do roku 2050).

    https://www.xprize.org/prizes/elonmusk#prize-activity

    "The world's leading scientists estimate that we may need to remove as much as 6 gigatons of CO2 per year by 2030, and 10 gigatons per year by 2050 to avoid the worst effects of climate change. For humanity to reach the Paris Agreements goal of limiting the Earth’s temperature rise to no more than 1.5˚(C) of pre-industrial levels, or even 2˚(C), we need bold, radical tech innovation and scale up that goes beyond limiting CO2 emissions, but actually removes CO2 already in the air and oceans. If humanity continues on a business-as-usual path, the global average temperature could increase 6˚(C) by the year 2100.

    This four-year global competition invites innovators and teams from anywhere on the planet to create and demonstrate solutions that can pull carbon dioxide directly from the atmosphere or oceans ultimately scaling massively to gigaton levels, locking away CO2 permanently in an environmentally benign way.

    Solutions will be scientifically evaluated across multiple criteria such as; amount of CO2 removed, life cycle analysis of the removal process, energy efficiency, land footprint and sequestration capabilities.

    Any carbon negative solution is eligible: nature-based, direct air capture, oceans, mineralization, or anything else that sequesters CO2 permanently. "
    SHEFIK
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    Commercial Carbon Capture And Use Takes A Step Forward With Carbon Clean
    https://www.forbes.com/...on-capture-and-use-takes-a-step-forward-with-carbon-clean/?sh=4206d48a6a47

    UK-headquartered Carbon Clean is working on different approaches to reaching net zero, including CCS, ICCU, biomethane amongst others and, according to the company, has so far removed over 800,000 tonnes of CO2 from its 38 facilities around the world. Aniruddha Sharma, CEO of Carbon Clean, said: “CEMEX shares our mission to enable the net zero transition by developing affordable modularized carbon capture solutions. This latest grant from the US Government endorses the importance of such work.”
    TADEAS
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    SHEFIK: me emoce vztahujici se k eoosystemu umoznuji resit problem pro me dobrou cestou
    SHEFIK
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    TADEAS: konstruktivni reseni problemu prece ze svy podstaty problem akceptuje a je kontradikci jak ignorance, tak nezajmu

    co sebsnazim rict je, ze emoce, jakekoliv nam brani resit problem optimalni cestou. zpusobuji vlny dalsich emoci a reakci, kterym se pak vsichni venuji vic nez problemu samotnemu.
    TADEAS
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    SHEFIK: dobrej eko-pocit predikuje eco-ignorance a eco-disinterest
    TADEAS
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    Paul Maidowski
    https://twitter.com/_ppmv/status/1360933540708368384?s=19

    It's a vital problem for our societies that job-hunting—or any kind of career-building for people who aren't tenured professor or otherwise secure / well established—doesn't rhyme with working on systemic risks & limits to growth.

    ...

    Who will keep societies honest, & develop solutions, if it's mostly retired elderly diplomats, engineers & senior scientists (& of course many activists etc), but not *career-building & powerful people* call out the obvious truths & fundamental contradictions we must resolve now?

    ...

    The incentives in societies, most direcly in the job market & in professional hierarchies, are wrong & self-destructive. Hard to see how people hope to solve deeper problems if we get penalized for calling them out.

    This needs to change—if we want livable futures
    TUHO
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    TADEAS: sorry, ted to tady nestiham projizdrt
    SHEFIK
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    byl ve studii zkoumany i konstruktivni pristup k reseni problemu, nebo porovnavali jen horsi s horsim? :)
    TADEAS
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    TUHO: 2 prispevky nize ,) TADEAS
    TUHO
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    TUHO:

    Our findings implicate anger as a key adaptive emotional driver of engagement with the climate crisis, and prompt warnings about the mental health of populations increasingly worried and miserable about climate change.
    TUHO
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    Vysla studie zkoumajici eko-vztek .]] A dochazi k tomu, ze vztek je dulezitej motivator ke kolektivni akci (a paradoxne) chrani dusevni zdravi.

    Geoffrey Supran
    First-of-its-kind national survey shows "eco-anger is uniquely associated with greater engagement in both personal and collective pro-climate behaviours" (+ "better mental health").
    This is why exposing Big Oil's history of reckless climate endangerment matters so damn much. 1/n

    From anger to action: Differential impacts of eco-anxiety, eco-depression, and eco-anger on climate action and wellbeing - ScienceDirect
    https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2667278221000018
    SHEFIK
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    https://www.discovermagazine.com/environment/earth-is-off-to-a-relatively-cool-start-in-2021

    Just a month after scientists reported that 2020 either tied for warmest year on record, or was second warmest, the new analyses found that the month of January didn't come close to setting a record. By NOAA's reckoning, it was the seventh warmest January on record. By NASA's it was sixth warmest (with the European Copernicus Climate Change Service concurring).

    ...

    No matter. Sixth versus seventh warmest is a discrepancy without much meaning. That's because over the long term, global warming continues to be relentless. In fact, January 2021 marked "the 45th consecutive January and the 433rd consecutive month with temperatures, at least nominally, above the 20th-century average," according to NOAA.
    TADEAS
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    2021 From anger to action: Differential impacts of eco-anxiety, eco-depression, and eco-anger on climate action and wellbeing
    https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2667278221000018

    Using Australian national survey data, we found that experiencing eco-anger predicted better mental health outcomes, as well as greater engagement in pro-climate activism and personal behaviours. Eco-anxiety and eco-depression were less adaptive, relating to lower wellbeing. Interestingly, those feeling eco-depressed were more likely to report participating in collective climate action, while those feeling eco-anxious were less likely to join the cause. Our findings implicate anger as a key adaptive emotional driver of engagement with the climate crisis, and prompt warnings about the mental health of populations increasingly worried and miserable about climate change.

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