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    TUHOKlimaticka zmena / Thank you so much for ruining my day
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    Opinion | A 50-Year Farm Bill - The New York Times
    https://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/05/opinion/05berry.html
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    U.S.-Sponsored Big Agriculture Is Leading to Ecological Collapse
    https://foreignpolicy.com/2021/05/17/big-industrialized-agriculture-climate-change-earth-systems-ecological-collapse-policy/

    Industrial agriculture simplifies ecosystems, rendering us more vulnerable to threats. Transformative policies will be required to pull us back from the edge. As a start, the United States could set an example for the Global North with a 50-year farm bill.

    The bill would promote ecosystem diversification and increased resilience by reducing acreage of annual grain crops from 70 percent to 10 percent or less of all cropland while scaling up perennial crops to 80 percent of farmland. The remaining 10 percent would be allocated to other crops, including a diverse array of locally produced vegetables and fruits. Soil and water-conserving perennial varieties of rice, wheat, legumes, and other food-grain crops—which are now being developed—could serve as components of diverse, perennial, multispecies communities of food crops that replicate how nature functions. The bill would promote a transition to smaller, more diverse farm operations as agricultural diversification will work most effectively not on vast, uniform acreages but as mosaics made up of many modest-sized farms.

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    As Candide stresses, it is vital to move away from abstract, monocultural arguments proposing business-as-usual as the best practice for all toward more practical work in more locally attuned, diversified agricultures that respect limits—both ecological and human. It is time to scale down agriculture and enhance our resilience to coming disruptions. The transitions will not be easy. We do not yet live in the best of all worlds, but things can be otherwise than as they are. We will need new agricultures and new policies to support them abroad and at home. Let us cultivate our gardens.
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    TUHO: The world’s total, direct energy sector subsidies – including those to
    fossil fuels, renewables and nuclear power – are estimated to have been at least USD 634 billion in 2017. These were dominated by subsidies to fossil fuels, which account for around 70% (USD 447 billion) of the total. Subsidies to renewable power generation technologies account for around
    20 % of total energy sector subsidies (USD 128 billion), biofuels for about 6 % (USD 38 billion) and nuclear for at least 3 % (USD 21 billion).
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    In 2017, the costs of unpriced externalities and the direct subsidies for fossil fuels (USD 3.1
    trillion) exceeded subsidies for renewable energy by a factor of 19.

    https://www.irena.org/-/media/Files/IRENA/Agency/Publication/2020/Apr/IRENA_Energy_subsidies_2020.pdf
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    TUHO: aneb "we are fucking fucked"

    since Paris, $3 trillion have been lent to the coal and oil & gas industry since the Paris Agreement was signed, of which $750 billion in the last year alone. The quantum of capital that's been lent by banks like JP Morgan Chase has gone up. It hasn't gone down. It's gone up. Our own research shows that fossil fuel companies have raised nearly 10 times more capital than renewable energy companies in the last decade or so through public markets in the form of IPOs.
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    TUHO: Yes. It is the proven financial consequences of our research that was crucial. There was just such ignorance and cynicism among investors of coal, oil and gas companies. Regulators were not on top of their game and investors weren't understanding the risks. So we thought, let's change mindsets. Let's get regulators understanding the systemic risks of climate change. And let's get the shareholders of these companies thinking about what they could be doing better.
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    In the late 90s and early 2000s, with my good friend and co-founder Nick Robins, we started asking simple questions: What happens if Exxon and Shell and all the other companies were to burn all their reserves? How much would that increase atmospheric CO2? And how much would the planet warm by? After years of looking, we just couldn't find anybody who had done that research. So we pulled the analysis together ourselves.

    In essence, we found that there's enough proven reserves already in the world today to take us way past four degrees of warming – and one and a half degrees is the threshold the science tells us we shouldn't exceed. So, this “unburnable carbon” creates what we call “stranded assets”. We describe it as a carbon bubble, a massive overhang of unusable fossil fuels, that has financial consequences for financial regulators and for investors.

    We’re Living Through A Carbon Bubble—Here’s What We Can Do About It
    https://www.forbes.com/sites/ashoka/2021/03/26/were-living-through-a-carbon-bubble--heres-what-we-can-do-about-it/?sh=3b94da581b62
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    Carbon bubble?

    - Already in 2011, the world has used over a third of its 50-year carbon budget of 886GtCO2, leaving 565GtCO2

    - All of the proven reserves owned by private and public companies and governments are equivalent to 2,795 GtCO2

    - Fossil fuel reserves owned by the top 100 listed coal and top 100 listed oil and gas companies represent total emissions of 745GtCO2

    - Only 20% of the total reserves can be burned unabated, leaving up to 80% of assets technically unburnable

    Unburnable Carbon: Are the World's Financial Markets Carrying a Carbon Bubble? - Carbon Tracker Initiative
    https://carbontracker.org/reports/carbon-bubble/
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    TUHO: mimo to je otazka, jak by stabilita klimatu a stav ekosystemu mely byt ustavne zakotveny, coz by se odrwzelo i v roli techle instituci. a vpastne nevim, jakej vztah ma parizska dohoda k ustave? je ji nadrazena jako nejaka mezinarodni smlouva?
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    SHEFIK: Ne, takovejch dokuemntu nejsou tisice. IPCC je globalni autorita, ktera sdruzuje vedce z celyho sveta, ktery delaj obri resersi soucasnyho vedeckyho poznani a venuje tisice clovekohodin nejlepsich mozku sveta, aby zmackla doporuceni do par srozumitelnejch stran pro policymakery.

    Pokud to policymakeri nejsou schopny udelat, tak je to znamka uplne bazalni pohrdani vedou, ci neorientace a ignorance. Coz jsou vlastnosti, ktery mi prijde, ze jsou mezi ekonomomama dost rozsireny .]]

    Ad kralovna: ekonomie je plna totalniho axiomatickyho bullshitu, ktery si vymysleli gentlemani u sklenky whisky, zatimco je obskakovalo sluzebnictvo. Pulka jejich teorii je nekonzistentni matematicky, druha je vyvracena antropologii a etnografii. Ale ekonomove zhusta ostatni vedy nectou, takze o tom nevi a tak spokojene vymejvaj mozky dalsim a dalsim generacim nebohejch studentu ekonomie .]]

    Jinak o problematice vycislovani mas samozrjeme pravdu, nicmene treba takovej neoklasickej mainstream to resi elegantne - tvari se, ze vycislit jdou a tim to hasne .]]

    Ad optimum: problem je, ze neexistuje nic jako jedno "optimum". Pri nejlepsi snaze muzem mluvit o multidimenzionalni krajine, kde jsou rozesety lokalni optima v zavislosti na ruznejch cilech a potrebach, politickejch preferencich, technologickejch moznostech, klimatickejch a ekosytemovejch vlivech etc.
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    Ono my to optimum ve vysledku nasledujeme, ale ta cesta jeho neustala konvergence a divergence - viz stridani politickejch stran (nebo bankeru x aktivistu). Pri odzoomovani ale lidstvo koreluje s nejakou optimalizacni krivkou, v nekterych castech sveta rychleji, v nekterych pomaleji.

    Tenhle stret nazoru, expertiz, specializace atd. je ale pro dlouhodobe dosahovani toho optima zadouci.
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    TUHO: rozumim kam miris. problem je, ze takovejch dokumentu sou tisice. Prob by meli vsichni cist zrovna tenhle a ne jinej? Tady si asi muzeme poplacat po zadech, ze argument zname, ale ze nekdo neco nevi, ho nedela negramotnym. Predpokladam, ze taky nevis vsecko

    Co se tyka wanabe kralovny, to neni zadna poza. Nas zivot je uzce spojenej s tim, jak dokazeme sami sebe nasytit /maaslowova hierarchie potreb/, a proto ten opernej bod je v ekonomii. Ten problem, na kterej narazis je imho jinde - ze nektery veci se velmi spatne vycislujou, jelikoz sou bud komplexni/multifaktorialni a jejich vliv tezko modelovatelnej, nebo moc fuzzy. Proto se jako prvni zahrnou vzdycky ty nejsnaze vycislitelny faktory. Proto mame levici a pravici a pak ruzny nazorovy podskupiny, eko frakce zelenejch... nikdo neumi oojmout veskerou komplexitu naseho sveta.

    Bejt vsecko snadno vycislitelny a modelovatelny, nemusime se ridit nazory a dojmy, ale muzeme velmi snadno nasledovat optimum.
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    TUHO: Jo a ten dokument je btw tady (a ackoliv filmarsky je dementni, tak jsou tam dobry rozhovory .)

    https://vimeo.com/ondemand/symbioticearthhv
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    SHEFIK: No, tak pokud jses na strategicky pozici, ktera ovlivnuje fungovani celyho hospodarstvi, tak bys mel mit aspon elementarni zaklady stezejnich disciplin. Nejde o to, a bejt klimatolog, ale ty vole bejt aspon schopnej precist si "IPCC report for policymakers", coz je par desitek stran napsany tak, ze je pochopi kazdej.
    Ale ja myslim, ze tohle je systematickej bias, kterej plyne z ekonomickejch teorii a hlavne celyho toho kretenskyho etosu wannabe kralovny spolecenskejch ved. Kdyz sledujes vyjadreni ekonomu, jsou konzistentne zcela naprosto mimo misu, s totalni ignoranci neekonomickycho vedeni. Jako trochu se to pomalu meni, ale jinak je to hruza a dle myho "trained incompetence" jak to hezky popsala v jednom dokumentu Lynn Margulis.
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    TUHO: neni to spis o case, ktery tematu venujes, nebo ses schopnej venovat? cas je limitovanej. odsuzovanej nekoho za to, ze nema prehled ve vsem mi prijde dost omezeny. je to jak rikat detem, ze sou hloupy, protoze jim neni jasny to co tobe. raketovej inzenyr asi nebude mit nikdy cas zkoumat, jaky procesy fungujou na arktide a entomolg bude tezko expertem na ekonomicky rizeni statu.
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    DNF
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    TUHO: Mno, to je jeden z duvodu, proc si uz dlouho myslim, ze lidstvo vyhynout musi: protoze vetsina elit jsou psychopati co toho nahledu nejsou schopni, tak trochu pro spolecnost menecenni jedinci.
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    TUHO: SHEFIK: Jinak je husty, jakou uroven negramotnosti dosahuji elity, predevsim potom ekonomicke a bankerske. Z toho vyjadreni CNB je zrejmy, ze se neorientuje v absolutnich zakladech problematiky...
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    SHEFIK: Jo, ale to vyzaduje znovu promysleni role centralnich bank v ekonomice. To taky vyzaduje vyhodit dogmatickou ekonomickou expertizu, ktera poslednich nekolik desetileti opanuje ekonomicky mainstream a vymyva mozky generacim studentu, ktery pak konci ve vedoucich funkcich .]
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    #demographics #negative

    Tohle asi s vyvojem klimatu bude taky souviset. Nejlidnatejsi zeme s nejvetsim prymyslem uvolnuje politiku ke 3 detem

    Chce to víc dělníků. Klesající porodnost ohrožuje čínský ekonomický růst - iDNES.cz
    https://www.idnes.cz/ekonomika/zahranicni/cina-populace-ekonomika-rust-hdp.A210602_152528_eko-zahranicni_mato
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