no jako panel sa energeticky zaplati do par rokov, takze za svoju zivotnost viac energie vyrobi nez spotrebuje, pokial sa budu dalsie panely vyrabat energiou z existujucich panelov, tak budu energeticky v pluse uz od uvedenia do provozu

DZODZO: taky se můžeme přestěhovat komplet všichni 100 metrů pod zem a nemusíme topit vůbec :) tyhlety "sithovské" absolutisty nemám rád :) Energie je dost pro všechny, stačí ji proměnit

TADEAS: jo takze ta situacia ale pocita s redukciou obyvatelstva, lebo je rozdiel vmestnat 1000 obyvatelov na km2 a jednu rodinu na km2 :)

TADEAS: znamej to komentuje na fb XR:

Jemmy Seccull
https://www.facebook.com/643556088/posts/10158803739461089/


After his arrest on 6 April, with a team of environmental activists in Fireproof Australia, and spending 24 hours in a cell, Dr. Martin Wolterding made this presentation before a Magistrate Judge in a Sydney, NSW court.

“I am an Environmental Scientist. I have studied various aspects of the field for 55 years and taught it at numerous universities for 40 years. I can say with absolute honesty that I think the climate and biodiversity crises are objective facts.
In New South Wales Australia, if I have charge of my 5 month old grandchild, and I were not to feed him properly, not keep it clean, nor dry and warm him when he was wed and cold, or leave him in the hot sun during an Australian summer, he would suffer and possibly die.

Were this to happen, I would be guilty of a form of criminal neglect, perhaps manslaughter or murder. Everyone in this courtroom are members of a human society, with the obligations to do whatever is humanly possible to stop and reverse the climate and biodiversity crises. I we fail to do this, if you turn our backs on the dangers than we will subject our grandchildren’s generation, and those who come after to them to having lives which will be short , filled with suffering and death.

Were we to do this we would be guilty of a another, higher form of neglect, a form that perhaps, has no name, because in the 100,000 years of human history, no generation has ever actively and knowingly denied to those who are to come after them, a healthy future as we are now doing.”

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Michaela Pixová - Názory Aktuálně.cz
https://blog.aktualne.cz/blogy/michaela-pixova.php?itemid=42416

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The Jevon's Paradox is a Myth

In the physical world the consumption of material resources is a necessary activity for sustaining physical life. In the mid 19th century, humanity discovered that the use of mechanical implements allowed for more efficient resource production and material abundance. In this time, childhood mortality was rampant and the population was food and energy resource-scarce. It was so resource scarce that real physical population limits were being materially enforced through the mechanisms observed by a period researcher in political science named Robert (bobby) Malthus. Bobby's theory was that in any given environment a population "check" would occur once the material resource limits were attained in any given region. Not really difficult to understand, this work was groundbreaking because he applied it with scientific precision to the human species as simply another form of herd animal.

Two specific machines that were created during this time created the impetus for massive population growth by freeing up material resource for consumption. The first was the implementation of a machine that would plant seeds at the appropriate depth and spacing and in physical rows. This device was called a "seed drill" and is basically the reason that the plow was invented. By growing row crops, the greater efficiency of food production allowed for more abundant food supplies for the same amount of invested energy. Therefore the "efficiency" of food greatly increased.

The second machine that was equally responsible for the explosion of population during a period of time that would later be called the "industrial revolution" is the pulsometer pump created by an engineer named Charles Henry (Chucky) Hall. Chucky found that by allowing for the expansion and contraction of the volume of steam in metal cylinders one could create sufficient vacuum force and use the power of suction to remove water from accumulating in coal mines. This machine greatly increased the access of humanity to deeper coal mines and allowed for a much more efficient extraction of coal.

After this invention a schoolboy noticed that the piles of coal being placed in his family chute for the warming of his flat was becoming cheaper and cheaper, so they decided to burn more of the coal to allow for a much more comfortable environment. Later on, this schoolboy came up with an idea that if any resource is made to be cheaper then the resource would be consumed at a higher level, growing without end. Of course his idea was revolutionary at the time because nobody else on the schoolyard gave a damn about such trivial pursuits and would rather address their time and energy kicking hard rubber balls on the pitch and pulling girl's pigtails. Jevons though himself quite a smart little lad!

However, being just a simple schoolboy, his understanding was limited to his extremely myopic period and limited exposure to the world. His fanciful projection of unlimited consumption increases occurring at increased efficiencies of material resources, or in the case of food, unlimited population growth and increased material resource consumption would always hit a limit.

In the modern world then, the concept of energy efficiency is often attacked by disciples of Bobby Malthus who wish to assert that in the current world's resource system, we have or are fast approaching a population "check". They want to assert this kind of "disaster porn" scenario so intently that they make up cute acronymns like EROEI and tend to have invested heavily in wooded land in remote parts of their respective countries where they like to do crafty things like bury schoolbuses as bomb shelters and store canned goods and ammunition. They also tend to like post apocalyptic science fiction scenarios that usually include zombies and guns.

In the real world, the Jevon's paradox doesn't exist, at least not in the simplistic schoolyard view of a 9 year old boy. In the real world of energy efficiency, the residential energy efficiency gains for low-income sectors do experience a 'takeback' of energy efficiencies. This is due to the resource constrained nature of the low-income experience. This is also the environment that is the most analogous to the mid 19th century school-yard experience of Jevons. This low-income takeback has been widely studied and can be accurately assessed to be between 15% and 25% of total efficiency gains in a household.

Similarly, in industrial applications, arguments have been made with varying success to indicate that any production efficiency would naturally lead to price reductions and consumption increases, to an unlimited degree so that any increase in efficiency would naturally lead to increased material consumption, without out end. This, of course is laughable as there are limits to economic growth and consumption.

The physical nature of modern economy is fraught with improvisations placed upon the collective understanding by those who wish to maintain control of our labor and resources. The most insidious of these falsehoods are those regarding organized religion and modern economics. Of course these are basically the same thing. One believes in an invisible entity and the other believes in an invisible hand that will magically balance out the inherent assumptions being made by dimwitted theoreticians. Similar to the oil-industry myth that oil consumption (or even CO2 production) is a proxy for economic activity, the idea that all energy efficiencies must be met with equal increases in consumptions similarly relies on such magical thinking. The real-world examples of per-capita annual driven miles under price fluctuations in gasoline and the differences in energy intensity (joules per $ GDP) among different societies are only a few of the literally millions of real-world examples that disprove the Jevon's Paradox's null hypothesis.